Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[number23]

The club rated him higher than others. We were surprised he was still on the board. You have to understand that we, like other clubs, have our own rankings that don't match the consensus.

Yep. Apparently Mitch and MM had him in the Top 10 which is how and why the pick trades went through.

 

[Roby]

Signed sealed and delivered. McKay to Hawks 100% done. 6 year deal.

If this is the case I feel cancelling my membership.

 

[number23]

Watching Burton and Duursma on the weekend, it's hard to agree that we overpaid for Chad.

That's true now but not at the time when Duursma came through with Rozzee and Butters. He really has fallen down in form.

 

[HedgeFund]

Signed sealed and delivered. McKay to Hawks 100% done. 6 year deal.

For a guy who is basically James Frawley but 10cm taller that’s a significant commitment.

He’s a defensive stopper, who you don’t want kicking the footy (if possible).

Better than Blanck and Frost, but hardly elite. He will clearly play regularly, but is simply going to allow those around him change their roles a bit.

 

[number23]

We slid 7 places in the second and third round this year. It really isn't that bad.

I would still prefer pick 22 than 29. Less concerned over the 3rd rounder

 

[Ned Ryerson]

If this is the case I feel cancelling my membership.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I would still prefer pick 22 than 29. Less concerned over the 3rd rounder

In the context of getting Weddle I don't care about either pick slide. Weddle is going to be a gun.

 

[Topiary]

If this is the case I feel cancelling my membership.

Cancel it.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

For a guy who is basically James Frawley but 10cm taller that’s a significant commitment.

He’s a defensive stopper, who you don’t want kicking the footy (if possible).

Better than Blanck and Frost, but hardly elite. He will clearly play regularly, but is simply going to allow those around him change their roles a bit.

Blanck takes the second key
Sicily roles to the third

We have no Frost brainfades

Win
Win
Win

 

[Ned Ryerson]

For a guy who is basically James Frawley but 10cm taller that’s a significant commitment.

He’s a defensive stopper, who you don’t want kicking the footy (if possible).

Better than Blanck and Frost, but hardly elite. He will clearly play regularly, but is simply going to allow those around him change their roles a bit.

The disrespect Frawley still cops here is insane. A 10cm taller Frawley is basically a complement.

 

[f4zz]

Signed sealed and delivered. McKay to Hawks 100% done. 6 year deal.

Thanks Nash88, appreciate your posts.

 

[Platten44]

In the context of getting Weddle I don't care about either pick slide. Weddle is going to be a gun.

We gave up the picks, there was no slide. The other picks were for JOM.
But agree doing that trade was gold.
We don’t need more bronze.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Blanck takes the second key
Sicily roles to the third

We have no Frost brainfades

Win
Win
Win

Allowing time for Blanck to develop while not taking the best forward each week is a huge win. I am bullish on Blanck developing.

 

[f4zz]

The disrespect Frawley still cops here is insane. A 10cm taller Frawley is basically a complement.

Agree. frawley was AA.

 

[A1fromDay1]

If this is the case I feel cancelling my membership.

 

[Kanga Commando]

If this is the case I feel cancelling my membership.

I get this guy is not elite.

But hes a free hit, and costs us little in the terms of a revised CBA.

 

[unitedhawk]

If this is the case I feel cancelling my membership.

From BF?

 

[HedgeFund]

The disrespect Frawley still cops here is insane. A 10cm taller Frawley is basically a complement.

I didn’t say Frawley wasn’t a decent player did I?

We all agree he was great at defending, but he chip kicked sideways whenever possible because he wasn’t flash by foot.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

We gave up the picks, there was no slide. The other picks were for JOM.
But agree doing that trade was gold.
We don’t need more bronze.

Yeah I remembered it wrong - didn't realise the pick swaps weren't directly related to the Weddle transaction. However - overall I am happy with the slide from that trade period with what we got out of it.

 

[daniel23]

We could offer Sam Taylor a little bit more money than this next year, when he's out of contract.

Go read North's GameDay threads, and you'll see the same frustration with McKay as Hawks supporters have with Frost.

Except there is zero chance of sam Taylor leaving. Mckay is best available and doesn't cost any assets plus he will become a better player at hawthorn.

 

[unitedhawk]

I would still prefer pick 22 than 29. Less concerned over the 3rd rounder

I prefer Weddle.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I didn’t say Frawley wasn’t a decent player did I?

We all agree he was great at defending, but he chip kicked sideways whenever possible because he wasn’t flash by foot.

It didn't exactly sound like a glowing compliment for either player.

 

[HedgeFund]

Agree. frawley was AA.

In 2010 whilst at Melbourne.

The version we got in 2014 was a bit more limited by then.

 

[Iceman!]

I didn’t say Frawley wasn’t a decent player did I?

We all agree he was great at defending, but he chip kicked sideways whenever possible because he wasn’t flash by foot.

As long as McKay knows and is willing to play his role, it is one of the reasons i liked Frawley so much.

If he can just lock down his opponent and continue being a good interceptor that is enough. We have the speed and ball users down back to accommodate him.

 

[HedgeFund]

It didn't exactly sound like a glowing compliment for either player.

All I said was it was a big commitment, and yes I don’t think McKay is an elite defender.

Neither was Frawley by the time he came to us.

Role player? Yes.
Elite defender? No.

I’m not against it (negative) but I’m not overly excited (neutral) about him coming on board if he does.