List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part III

[George]

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

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Courtesy of Lore

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

I don't think we would match as we may have to keep him for 3 years at $600K plus which would not be something we would want to do I imagine.

It'll be more than $600K.

Hopefully enough more to give us Band 1

 

[kyrgios]

can't read because of paywall.. someone able to cut and paste? I could do with a laugh today.

 

[stfan]

Those boys signed. Only 1 year deals is pretty rough. Certainly make or break for all of them next year. Perhaps jimmy is at the point where he'll only get 1 year from now on. And Zac is obviously injury dependent so can't complain.

Gresh gone. Coff gone.

Who's that leave unsigned? Hunter?

Dmac

 

[SaintsSeptember]

It'll be more than $600K.

Hopefully enough more to give us Band 1

Band 1 is more like $800K

 

[FootyMaster11]

Announced on Trade Radio Just then that Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

is staying, as well as Campbell

 

[stfan]

You really need to do some research on Silvagni’s track record at GWS and Carlton.

I think the problem with GWS and Carlton was their coach, rather than list building.

 

[bird_man]

we got gresham using pick Essendon gave us..
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we got screwed.

Not sure we got screwed

Essendon took Francis with that pick

 

[Nutsngum]

End of first won't be matched I would imagine, No chance we get pick 8 or a future first for Gresh so no point in matching.
Ends up about pick 25 after bids so about what he's worth

Where does pick 8 come into it? The most it can be is after our first pick which is pick 13.

 

[The Punter]

Where does pick 8 come into it? The most it can be is after our first pick which is pick 13.

Essendon's first round pick is pick 8. If we match, then we are basically asking Essendon to satisfy us with a trade.

 

[bird_man]

Freo will want that pick 20 if we get it for Gresham

 

[FrogDude]

Where does pick 8 come into it? The most it can be is after our first pick which is pick 13.

It was about if we would match a Band 2 bid. The only picks that the Dons have that are better than end of first round are pick 8 or their future first which will be off limits hence why we are unlikely to match at band 2.

 

[Speck]

We need 2nd and 3rd picks for Henry, Dow and possibly Shiel, but I wonder what we could do to get pick 10 from the Gold Coast now.

Assuming we get pick 20 for Gresham - could we package that up with some later picks for 10? Getting rid of that pick would be a good strategy to take it off the table for Freo.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

No-one wanted Billings in the last trade period. Why the heck did we give him 500k a year???

 

[Nutsngum]

Essendon's first round pick is pick 8. If we match, then we are basically asking Essendon to satisfy us with a trade.

That makes sense. Yes, forcing 8 out of them wouldnt nigh impossible.

 

[stavro#4]

 

[stavro#4]

Freo will want that pick 20 if we get it for Gresham

Just posted sos interview. They asked for a top 10 pick

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Really miss the days of Harvey, Dal Santo, Montagna, Hayes, Goddard.
Hitting targets for fun..

Now we celebrate a pin point forward entry like Christmas has come early

Go Byrnesey
Not consistent, but when he gets those bullet passes right, is a sight to behold

 

[Nutsngum]

No-one wanted Billings in the last trade period. Why the heck did we give him 500k a year???

500k is barely above average wage. He has been an underperforming above average player so that makes sense.

I think people have a wierd skew on salaries on here, the only players on anything below 300K are first/2nd year players and genuine fringe players.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Brandon Ellis

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Brandon Ellis

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

12.9

5star

HB

5.6

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

1.4

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

1.0

3star

$600K second round.
Tomlinson $500K end of second round.
Atkins $400K end of second round.
Daniher $830K first round
Corr $550k second round
Zac Williams $830K first round
Amon $650K second round.
Lycett (2018) $650K end of first round.

The way i see it , $650 is right on the border of second / end of first depending on details.

I was hoping Gresh would get $700K , but i kind of doubt it.
1st round compo is pie in the sky.

 

[kyrgios]

Not sure we got screwed

Essendon took Francis with that pick

true. I take that back.

Would we have taken him though? I wanted Fiorini in that draft.

 

[Moral Decay]

If the Shiel meal deal is off and they lowball Gresham then we just keep him.

Good Lord

 

[stavro#4]

Brandon Ellis $600K second round.
Tomlinson $500K end of second round.
Atkins $400K end of second round.
Daniher $830K first round
Corr $550k second round
Zac Williams $830K first round
Amon $650K second round.
Lycett (2018) $650K end of first round.

The way i see it , $650 is right on the border of second / end of first depending on details.

I was hoping Gresh would get $700K , but i kind of doubt it.
1st round compo is pie in the sky.

All of those deals are not reflective on the current landscape though.

Flynn and Jordan just got their clubs second round picks.

Doedee just got end of first and he has an acl injury

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Essendon's first round pick is pick 8. If we match, then we are basically asking Essendon to satisfy us with a trade.

If we match we are asking to keep him.
They won't trade.

 

[saintmike65]

Better player than Ginnovan and McCreery up forward. Plus Sidebottom is 33 in January and the cliff can come quickly.

Doubt JB would get a game ahead of Ginnovan or McCreery

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

And if he knows the deal, we know the deal including likely compo.

And since he has now nominated the Dons, then we aren't going to match.

It doesn't work that way with FA's

Players nominate their destination and it's announced when their 'new club' lodges the FA paperwork.

Their existing club then has the opportunity to match.

Then it's a matter of deciding whether to match the offer or not (usually when we learn of the compo)