2023 Trade Time Talk - Henley Beach Café Returns

[Mostyn]

Given your posting in the last 24 hours, you are either have nfi about list management or you are are trolling this board.

Which is it?

What about that post bothered you?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What about that post bothered you?

Seriously?

Haynes is completely cooked.

Haynes is not a key position player.

Why take him on for a pick & clog our list when we have plenty of picks, but need ready to go players.

We are better off spending our cap space on decent players not completely cooked ones... or front loading current young player contracts if we can't land anyone.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If you read correctly you'll know the player is irrelevant to the pick that comes with it.

We are in the age of salary dumping Kane. The pick is carrot, not the player.

Catch up or miss out!

We have a shortage of list spots & a plethora of picks, so this strategy is crazy for our position.

 

[Bearded Clam]

If you read correctly you'll know the player is irrelevant to the pick that comes with it.

We are in the age of salary dumping Kane. The pick is carrot, not the player.

Catch up or miss out!

A 1.2 million dollar player thats cooked?..

We’d want to be getting pick 6 AND 15 for him.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Can we beat that and is it worth the cost?

We could beat it if we could trade 2 or 3 of our seconds for a first this year..

And give that first, plus 9 and our F1 to the suns for it..

Or we trade 2 of our seconds to port so they can use them on sweet, rat or bzt.. for ports f1..

So our f1, 9 and ports f1.. which I reacon the suns would go for over 10, 17 and f1 from the bulldogs..

Suns would love to grab a heap of capital in next years draft while still paying for their 3 academy lads this year..

 

[Betts are off]

We have a shortage of list spots & a plethora of picks, so this strategy is crazy for our position.

We are talking about 12 months from now (when Haynes Contract expires). Not to mention Sloanes, Smith's, Walkers, Parnells, McHenry's, Cooks plus a bunch of others.

List spots will be fine, and TBH, I wouldn't want to use that many picks that year anyway. The point isn't to bring in mass players, but to leapfrog trade our F/S pick like GWS did in the Tom Green draft.

Gotta look at the entire chess board mate, not just the castle in front of you

 

[BRL121]

We could beat it if we could trade 2 or 3 of our seconds for a first this year..

And give that first, plus 9 and our F1 to the suns for it..

Or we trade 2 of our seconds to port so they can use them on sweet, rat or bzt.. for ports f1..

So our f1, 9 and ports f1.. which I reacon the suns would go for over 10, 17 and f1 from the bulldogs..

Suns would love to grab a heap of capital in next years draft while still paying for their 3 academy lads this year..

We could beat it easily if we wanted to, but it's too much.

 

[Betts are off]

A 1.2 million dollar player thats cooked?..

We’d want to be getting pick 6 AND 15 for him.

I'd want a F1, I like the Mids next year

 

[Bearded Clam]

I think people are seeing a 32 year-old earning $1.2m a year and not getting a game and saying the only interest should come if they pay us to take him.

Which is fair enough, but there's no reason for GWS to do that

No reason?..

Moving on 1.2 million dollar a year cooked player?..

I can think of two immediately.

Freeing up the list spot and the salary cap space.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

We are talking about 12 months from now (when Haynes Contract expires). Not to mention Sloanes, Smith's, Walkers, Parnells, McHenry's, Cooks plus a bunch of others.

List spots will be fine, and TBH, I wouldn't want to use that many picks that year anyway. The point isn't to bring in players but leapfrog trade out pick like GWS did in the Tom Green draft.

Gotta look at the entire chess board mate, not just the castle in front of you

Ahhh memories...I was the chess champion at my school.

Even beat the teachers.

So I understand strategy given our hand.

We are better off using our picks to move up the draft order than fill up our cap & play 1 short on our list.

We should be using our cap space to bring in a gun player with a long term deal... & we front load our younger players til we do.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

A 1.2 million dollar player thats cooked?..

We’d want to be getting pick 6 AND 15 for him.

& their future 1st.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I'd want a F1, I like the Mids next year

Yeah…

Then tyler welsh has a bumper year.. stays in top 3 contention (where he has been for a while now)..

And we’re fccked..

We have to then trade that f1 into 2025..

Kicking the can even further down the road.

We need midfield talent NOW.

 

[Betts are off]

Yeah…

Then tyler welsh has a bumper year.. stays in top 3 contention (where he has been for a while now)..

And we’re fccked..

We have to then trade that f1 into 2025..

Kicking the can even further down the road.

We need midfield talent NOW.

I don't think I've ever seen a team complain about having too many 1st rounders in a strong midfield draft Clam

 

[Bearded Clam]

Ahhh memories...I was the chess champion at my school.

Even beat the teachers.

So I understand strategy given our hand.

We are better off using our picks to move up the draft order than fill up our cap & play 1 short on our list.

We should be using our cap space to bring in a gun player with a long term deal... & we front load our younger players til we do.

I dont mind taking on haine’s 1.2 mill contract..

If the GWS clowns give us pick 6 and 15 to do so.. we’ll throw himm back to them for good faith in the deal.

If not.. I dont wanna know about it and they can continue being hamstrung having him and his contract on their books..

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I dont mind taking on haine’s 1.2 mill contract..

If the GWS clowns give us pick 6 and 15 to do so.. we’ll throw himm back to them for good faith in the deal.

If not.. I dont wanna know about it and they can continue being hamstrung having him and his contract on their books..

I would only be willing to take on Haynes if they also added one of their gun midfielders.

 

[Betts are off]

Ahhh memories...I was the chess champion at my school.

Even beat the teachers.

So I understand strategy given our hand.

We are better off using our picks to move up the draft order than fill up our cap & play 1 short on our list.

We should be using our cap space to bring in a gun player with a long term deal... & we front load our younger players til we do.

Well agree to disagree mate.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I don't think I've ever seen a team complain about having too many 1st rounders in a strong midfield draft Clam

You know how it works though..

Not much point having them if you have a F/s thats gonna attract an early bid which will suck them straight up..

Look at the suns right now.. they have pick 4.. they believe that MAYBE one of their academy lads is gonna get bid on before pick 4.. so now they are having to get rid of pick 4.

The bonus for them is they also have two other academy lads to pick up too.. and a midfield stacked with decent youngsters about to hit their straps.

So they can afford to kick the can down the road.

We cant. We need midfield bolstering talent now.

Its fxxked.

 

[Sanders]

Given your posting in the last 24 hours, you are either have nfi about list management or you are are trolling this board.

Which is it?

Nothing wrong with what he said, unlike your Partridge impression

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sanders - you have taken me off ignore just to disagree with my post.

How courageous of you...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nothing wrong with what he said, unlike your Partridge impression

Come on old wise one, feel free to let us know how it is done...

Perhaps like you told me we should just roll over & accept FA compo for Dangerfield... when I said we shouldn't & force them to offer more...

 

[Betts are off]

You know how it works though..

Not much point having them if you have a F/s thats gonna attract an early bid which will suck them straight up..

Look at the suns right now.. they have pick 4.. they believe that MAYBE one of their academy lads is gonna get bid on before pick 4.. so now they are having to get rid of pick 4.

The bonus for them is they also have two other academy lads to pick up too.. and a midfield stacked with decent youngsters about to hit their straps.

So they can afford to kick the can down the road.

We cant. We need midfield bolstering talent now.

Its fxxked.

I'm all for kicking the can to the substantially better midfielder draft.

There is serious talent next year on top of Welsh. We should be open to getting in front of that bid no matter the cost.

That's my opinion anyway. Happy for you to disagree. And TBH I'm about to go into Red Wine and Friday night movie mode, so if you don't mind I'll leave it at that and bid you a good night.

 

[FR0GGY]

Look at the suns right now.. they have pick 4.. they believe that MAYBE one of their academy lads is gonna get bid on before pick 4.. so now they are having to get rid of pick 4.

Yeah but there’s an auction for it, they are going to get overs (points) for what it’s worth.
Welsh could easily bomb out next year too.

 

[fuic08]

Haynes would be great back up if we got a Bowes like deal out of it.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Yeah but there’s an auction for it, they are going to get overs (points) for what it’s worth.
Welsh could easily bomb out next year too.

Lots of coulds, woulds and maybe’s..

can we wait till 2025 before we finally get that talented young mid in?.. who will then take 2 to 3 years before he starts hitting his straps?..

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sanders ... don't go all shy on us now you are back.

Feel free to impart your CroMo wisdom & let the board know what you would do...