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Since you’re here, what are your thoughts on Carlton trading up to 3? Seemed to be widely lauded but I felt it was a strange move given you have more A graders then anyone but lack depth of good players. 2 1st rd picks in this draft may suit Carlton’s list more than 1 top 5 pick, along with the strong need for a kpd. Unless the Blues are also seduced by Tauru and assume North will trade down or not reach that far for him.
Sorry for the late reply. Yes you are correct, it is not a long term injury if managed correctly.
My Son was playing a bunch of Volleyball and it caused stress on certain parts of his back. Scans revealed that he had a Pars Defect, which essentially meant that if he continued and not rested it would have turned into a fracture.
It was recommended that he sit out of all sports for 12 months (which was not cool for a 17 yo at the time trying to make state teams). We had another scan at about 10 months and it was all healed and he was able to ease back into it. Hasn't had an issue again.
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My top 12 phantom assuming Richmond go for Lalor. Looking forward to the rage. 
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
My top 12 phantom assuming Richmond go for Lalor. Looking forward to the rage.
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
No rage, but I think we will really, really want to keep our F1 so we can continue to build the list with experienced players via trade next year. Look at what we’ve been able to do to get Dawson, Rankine, ANB etc.
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North aren't getting a first rounder for a two pick downgrade.My top 12 phantom assuming Richmond go for Lalor. Looking forward to the rage.
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
With Stephenson retiring from North does it clear up a list spot for them to split 2? They have enough midfielders. Makes sense to slide maybe to Saints' 7&8 and take Tauru and Travaglia or similar?
You can guarantee if the Saints move up to pick 2 who ever they take will be a bust and picks 7 and 8 will go on to be key Premiership players with North in like 7 years time
I agree it makes sense for the Roos to do that, but I can't see Saints giving that up for pick 2.
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I keep changing my thinking on the trading up for Pick 3.
On the one hand, you’re right in that we need solid depth and need to prioritise KP coverage down back.
However, I think the club is of the understanding that we are in the window now and wanted to access to an immediate impact player at the top end of the draft to act as a point of difference with our current contested/slow midfield group.
I’m assuming they also wanted one last crack at top line talent via the draft before Tasmania comes into play and dilutes the pool.
It’s a very steep price to pay though (1st Round, F1 + F2), unless they have a free agent already lined up for next year.
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A bigger deal out west.
If they were downgrading, they getting that every day of the week, and then some. Upgrading a pick in the top 5 costs a 1st at a minimum.
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Unfortunately it falls over at the first hurdle for me.My top 12 phantom assuming Richmond go for Lalor. Looking forward to the rage.
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
4 + F1 is not a price I am willing to entertain. Not in a draft where there is a smorgasbord of talent up to and including pick 4
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Yeah, that Adelaide trade is absolute crapola.My top 12 phantom assuming Richmond go for Lalor. Looking forward to the rage.
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
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I still have a feeling we might try to grab a F2 using some of the F3's we have and then go to North with that and 4 for 2. North could effectively step trade their way down and gather good draft picks along the way as their next trade could be with Richmond for 6 and 18 for 4 (especially if Smith is on the board still at 4)
GWS did it with us for a LESS valuable upgrade (6->4) taking Ash and giving us pick 6 and GWS F1 (Pedlar)
# but agree it’s a lot to give up and wouldn’t want us doing it - esp with such an even top 5
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Completely different as they did that to stop us bidding on Tom Green so they could get an extra 1st round pick in before a bid was coming for him. So they essentially moved their F1 into the draft of the day
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What do you mean?
Oh sorry should have been clearer, it was Swans (not crows) who were going to take Tom Green so GWS wanted our pick 4 to slide in before Swans picked at 5. so agree with your analysis on why they did it as gave them Ash and Green from that years first rounder and F1
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Complete madness imo to give away a future 1st to get a player ranked around the same mark.My top 12 phantom assuming Richmond go for Lalor. Looking forward to the rage.
1. RICH. Lalor
2. ADEL. FOS (trade NM/ADL)
3. BRIS. Ashcroft
4. CARL. Smith
5. RICH. Langford (trade NM/RICH)
6. MELB. Draper
7. NM. Armstrong
8. STK. Smillie
9. STK. Reid
10. MELB. Tauru
11. RICH. Travaglia
12. NM. Trainor
Trades
ADL: 4 + F1
NM: 2 + F2
NM: 5 + F1 (ADL)
RICH: 7 + 12
Thoughts
ADL (FOS) - for a drop from 12 to 23 in 2025 (approx) we're getting the kid that I think would be number 1 with a full uninterrupted year. He may even be number 1 with the interrupted year. Pick 12 in a weak draft next year isn't necessarily going to feature in our next premiership but FOS absolutely would. Focus on free agents/trading in next year.
NM (ARMSTRONG, TRAINOR) - Arguably the two best talls. One with family ties to NM.
RICH (LALOR, LANGFORD, TRAVAGLIA, 18, 20) - What's not to like. Move a pick into the future. Could also go Draper over Langford.
MELB - Make out like bandits.
There will be a very good player available at pick 4.
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