Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread

[Scorpus]

Neither Twomey nor Rookie Me have Welsh listed.

He has to be a big chance to not go top 30.

He's done an awesome job of tanking his value for us

 

[Crow till I die]

Supporter base views are irrelevant.

They'll take the two best players.

Hopefully there's close to zero chance of Battle getting band one.

I know that but what their supporter base is saying is how badly they need top end mids. B Crouch unlikely to play again. If they are saying that its no stretch to think their list management might see the same thing.

 

[Captain Furious]

Lombard suspiciously low.

 

[WeeBlake]

Almost everything the AFL does these days I hate

 

[Betts are off]

He's done an awesome job of tanking his value for us

I feel like every year now there are highly rated SA kids who were looking like mid 1st round prospects (or earlier) as bottom agers, and barely crack the 1st round mocks come August in their draft year. And often fall a lot further by draft night.

Ashton Moir, Harry Lemmey, Matt Roberts, Arlo Draper, Caleb Poulter, Will Gould, Kaine Baldwin, Luke Edwards etc

Probably goes to show that outside of the top 1-3 picks, bottom age form is very fickle. Mid 1st round prospect at that point seems to really only mean the player looks like they are 'draftable'.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

I feel like every year now there are highly rated SA kids who were looking like mid 1st round prospects (or earlier) as bottom agers, and barely crack the 1st round mocks come August in their draft year. And often fall a lot further by draft night.

Ashton Moir, Harry Lemmey, Matt Roberts, Arlo Draper, Caleb Poulter, Will Gould, Kaine Baldwin, Luke Edwards etc

Probably goes to show that outside of the top 1-3 picks, bottom age form is very fickle. Mid 1st round prospect at that point seems to really only mean the player looks like they are 'draftable'.

I feel like every year we as a collective tend to overrate many SA kids and are brought back to earth when accurate mock’s and then draft night comes around unfortunately, myself more than most.

 

[Betts are off]

I feel like every year we as a collective tend to overrate many SA kids and are brought back to earth when accurate mock’s and then draft night comes around unfortunately, myself more than most.

We are all guilty of it TBH. I wouldn't be surprised if Sid Draper ends up in Ports range when its all said and done.

Tyler Welsh may end up in round 3.

Doesn't mean they are bad players, they could still end up guns in AFL level and probably will. I mean, regardless of mock drafts they are both playing at SANFL level in high school!

 

[Sizzlepack]

Draper is #1 in ESPN's July rankings: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...ace-heats-sid-draper-josh-smillie-jagga-smith

The fact that he's as high as 1 and as low as 9 is just further proof of how even the top 10 is.

 

[Mutineer]

We are all guilty of it TBH. I wouldn't be surprised if Sid Draper ends up in Ports range when its all said and done.

Tyler Welsh may end up in round 3.

Doesn't mean they are bad players, they could still end up guns in AFL level and probably will. I mean, regardless of mock drafts they are both playing at SANFL level in high school!

Absolutely, positively that ain't happening, Draper will go top 10 at the very least unless he gets injured or has a recurrence of his shin fractures. And even then he'd still go 1st round.

Edit:

Re Tyler Welsh it only needs one club to rate him for him to go much higher than the 3rd round.

Max Michalanney never made it to Twomey's top 30 at any stage to my recollection but that didn't stop Kinnear Beatson and Simon Dalrymple bidding in the 1st round.

 

[Disco Fox]

Absolutely, positively that ain't happening, Draper will go top 10 at the very least unless he gets injured or has a recurrence of his shin fractures. And even then he'd still go 1st round.

Edit:

Re Tyler Welsh it only needs one club to rate him for him to go much higher than the 3rd round.

Max Michalanney never made it to Twomey's top 30 at any stage to my recollection but that didn't stop Kinnear Beatson and Simon Dalrymple bidding in the 1st round.

Port's first pick currently - Pick 30 !!
Twomey's July rankings just dropped - has anyone ever seen such a midfielder dominated top end of the draft? I think there's approx 18 mids in his top 30.

 

[Mutineer]

Better balanced than Twomey's IMO.

AFL Draft Power Rankings: July 2024

Rookie Me Central's July Power Rankings are in, with the list extended to 30 names after an enthralling end to the National Championships.

central.rookieme.com

 

[Disco Fox]

Better balanced than Twomey's IMO.

AFL Draft Power Rankings: July 2024

Rookie Me Central's July Power Rankings are in, with the list extended to 30 names after an enthralling end to the National Championships.

central.rookieme.com

Langford & Travaglia ranked well apart in the two lists.

 

[Redleg Crow]

Draper at Number 1

Draft Power Rankings: New No. 1 emerges after National Championships

A new No. 1 has emerged following the U18 National Championships, while some bolters have also made their move after strong showings, writes Jasper Chellappah. Plus, every prospect's carnival stats, in ESPN's July Draft Power Rankings.

www.espn.com.au

 

[Mostyn]

Thats good news. Not being hamstrung by an early bid gives us way more freedom.

EDIT: Although I would still be a bit wary of the Bulldogs given his dads connection. Also, they were very sour about the Jamarra bid, I wouldn't put it past them to have a dip at him just as a return serve.

Bulldogs don't have a pick til 29 at the minute ...

 

[Mostyn]

I know that but what their supporter base is saying is how badly they need top end mids. B Crouch unlikely to play again. If they are saying that its no stretch to think their list management might see the same thing.

Best available could absolutely be two mids as well.

But there's not much point worrying about it - it's completely out of our control. Hopefully the world sees sense and Battle is band 2.

 

[BRL121]

Best available could absolutely be two mids as well.

But there's not much point worrying about it - it's completely out of our control. Hopefully the world sees sense and Battle is band 2.

I'm amused but not surprised about the complete lack of media outrage about Battle "not being worth" pick 5.
They were very quick to pile on the pressure when it was floated that Crouch might get pick 3.

 

[Mostyn]

No one seems to rate Welsh, which isn't a terrible possibility.

I think we try for three top-25 picks, and hold a couple of late picks for Welsh points. If he goes before 25, we at least consider letting him go.

 

[Mutineer]

There's 3 WA boys seriously flying under the radar Hamish Davis, Luke Urquhart and Hugh Boxhall all decent sized units as well.

Hamish Davis - Forward/Midfielder 190cm 85kg - fast leading high marking forward that's also capable in the midfield, a genuine utility

Hamish Davis | WAFL

wafl.com.au

Luke Urquhart - Balanced Midfielder (inside/outside) 190cm 76kg - Explosive midfielder with speed to burn, good overhead, kicking can be a bit hit and miss at times but Patty Dangerfield's is too.

Luke Urquhart | WAFL

wafl.com.au

Hugh Boxshall - Balanced midfielder (inside/outside) 187cm 80kg - smooth mover, good size, very composed in traffic, clearance specialist.

 

[maxlilly]

I think Sam Lalor ticks a lot of boxes for what we are looking for.
I am hoping we can select him at the draft

 

[Bazz_27]

We have very rarely selected a mid with our first draft pick over the years (some first rounders but not first pick). It shows, we are so desperate for a gun mid that can impact straight away, I really hope we get it.

2023 - Curtin (don't fight me - he played some mid I know)
2022 - Max
2021 - Rachele
2020 - Thilthorpe
2019 - McAsey
2018 - Jones (assume he was a mid?)
2017 - Fog
2016 - Galluci (shudders)
2015 - Milera
2014 - Lever
2013 - Crouch (Pick 23)
2012 - Thanks KT & PH
2011 - Brouch (mini draft)
2010 - Smith
2009 - Talia
2008 - Davis
2007 - Danger
I've stopped here cause it gets real depressing

 

[ClaudeCurlsCrow]

We have very rarely selected a mid with our first draft pick over the years (some first rounders but not first pick). It shows, we are so desperate for a gun mid that can impact straight away, I really hope we get it.

2023 - Curtin (don't fight me - he played some mid I know)
2022 - Max
2021 - Rachele
2020 - Thilthorpe
2019 - McAsey
2018 - Jones (assume he was a mid?)
2017 - Fog
2016 - Galluci (shudders)
2015 - Milera
2014 - Lever
2013 - Crouch (Pick 23)
2012 - Thanks KT & PH
2011 - Brouch (mini draft)
2010 - Smith
2009 - Talia
2008 - Davis
2007 - Danger
I've stopped here cause it gets real depressing

Galluci.... absolute spud
McAsey - enough said
Jones - can come good but very doubtful
the rest are very good

i'm really hoping we can draft either Lalor or Reid and then get Dodson with our 2nd pick

 

[Mutineer]

Those that think trading into the top 10 or even just the 1st round best tenper their hopes,,

FUTURE TRADING WATCH​

CLUBS are expected to try to trade next year's first-round picks into this year's draft as recruiters grow more enamoured with the class of 2024.

Although there is no consensus on pick No.1 in this year's draft pool like Harley Reid last year, the depth of quality in the top 30 picks has clubs considering attempting moves to try to trade into this year's group using their picks in next year's pool.

The ability to trade two years in advance with draft selections, which is expected to be formally added to this year's exchange period in coming weeks, will also give clubs another chip to try and break into the top-end of the 2024 group.

 

[GreyCrow]

Its a fine balancing act for all concerned

Obviously clubs are trying to predict the sliders and those possible slider clubs dont want to slide so will more likely hold onto those picks

Dealing with bottom 6 clubs would be difficult as they also want to hold onto their picks to help them rise

It really only leaves top 4 clubs who think YOU will still fail or clubs requiring junk picks for Academy picks

 

[Redline]

We are all guilty of it TBH. I wouldn't be surprised if Sid Draper ends up in Ports range when its all said and done.

Tyler Welsh may end up in round 3.

Dissapointing with Welsh, some were suggesting we had to trade our first round pick as he was going top 5. As you say, doesn't mean he isn't a good player, it would just be nice to get a top rated player.

 

[Betts are off]

Absolutely, positively that ain't happening, Draper will go top 10 at the very least unless he gets injured or has a recurrence of his shin fractures. And even then he'd still go 1st round.

Edit:

Re Tyler Welsh it only needs one club to rate him for him to go much higher than the 3rd round.

Max Michalanney never made it to Twomey's top 30 at any stage to my recollection but that didn't stop Kinnear Beatson and Simon Dalrymple bidding in the 1st round.

I didn't realize Port didn't have a 1st. I had them picking in the 10-13 range (10 currently). I'm still more skewed to wait that one out then say he's a lock top 10 right now. I really like Sid Draper, but thats not a hill I need to die on.

Regarding Welsh, personally I think the impact of a F/S pick can go both directions on draft value. So him being picked on the fringe of the 1st, or start of round 3 seem equally likely to me.