List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft

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Anyone here interested in being part of a Bigfooty phantom draft?

 
Bo Allan would be just about ideal, but sitting right under West Coast's nose it's hard to see him getting to us, unless we pull a swifty pick trade on the night.
Well that means a getting Richmond's 10/11 for our 13 and whatever. What could we offer that they would really want???
 
I’ve seen Allan play a couple of games for Peel last year.
Just on those games he didn’t stand out as anything special.
Obviously there’s more to him but I’ve never seen it in the games I attended.
 

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I’ve seen Allan play a couple of games for Peel last year.
Just on those games he didn’t stand out as anything special.
Obviously there’s more to him but I’ve never seen it in the games I attended.
Allan is more athlete then pure footballer, still alot of undecided punters about his real endstate as a AFL footballer. Also revisited lots of footage on hotton and have come to firm conclusion that hes a very poor kick. Moves like a cat but his finishing by foot is poor, doubts on some of his decision making as well.
 
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could we take cooper hynes with 13? or is it too high for him?
Well 13 is really 16 and so I don't think it's that high for him. Saying that I'd try do 13 and 29 (really 16 and 33) for GWS' 16 and 21 (really 19 and 24) then get Hynes and Hannaford/Dattoli
 
The split maybe the way to go, just cant seem to find a clear winner at 13.
I don't mind Berry at 13, but I dont see any of the higher ranked guys sliding to 13. So maybe we can just hope that one of Berry/Lindsay (safe picks) or Hotton/Trainor (risky picks) slide to 19 and take Hynes/Hannaford at 22 or something if we split 13, IDK.
 
I don't mind Berry at 13, but I dont see any of the higher ranked guys sliding to 13. So maybe we can just hope that one of Berry/Lindsay (safe picks) or Hotton/Trainor (risky picks) slide to 19 and take Hynes/Hannaford at 22 or something if we split 13, IDK.

Yea Berry is the one with a higher ceiling than Hynes. Unfortunately Cooper Hynes although a big bodied mid/forward lacks pace and endurance.
Just afraid he may become a Dylan Williams and get found out at AFL level.

With Pick 13 we need to nail it not go after a draftee just because their big bodied...
If Bo Allan came through to our pick I would extremely pleased but Berry for me if we are realistic about the draft order.
 
Yea Berry is the one with a higher ceiling than Hynes. Unfortunately Cooper Hynes although a big bodied mid/forward lacks pace and endurance.
Just afraid he may become a Dylan Williams and get found out at AFL level.

With Pick 13 we need to nail it not go after a draftee just because their big bodied...
If Bo Allan came through to our pick I would extremely pleased but Berry for me if we are realistic about the draft order.
Hynes has good breakaway speed, don't know where that's comes from. Endurance sure can be questioned but can say the same for many draftees. Berry isn't what we need imo. If Berry had any midfield skills then sure we could take him but Hynes is also a good overhead mark and has strength to break tackles which is a huge part of modern game. Berry is just adding to the plethora of small forwards we now have.

Adding Hynes gives us a lot of flexibility when it comes to how we use JHF and Rozee
 
Allan is more athlete then pure footballer, still alot of undecided punters about his real endstate as a AFL footballer. Also revisited lots of footage on hotton and have come to firm conclusion that hes a very poor kick. Moves like a cat but his finishing by foot is poor, doubts on some of his decision making as well.
If both summations are correct pass on both
 

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Hynes at 13 is way to early, I reckon he goes in the 20s, happy to pick him up, but not with 13.
Hynes will go early 20s at the latest. Has the x-factor which clubs generally love. Would be a touch early for our pick at 16 so wouldn't mind slipping a few spots back and picking him and another draft pick. But if we get no offers then I wouldn't mind us picking him at 16
 
If both summations are correct pass on both
I wouldnt rule them out, just my observations and reading of summaries from guys in the west who see alot of Allan, he may develop with time and AFL exposure. Problem with Hotton is his limited visibility this year due to ACL,. however its clear that he has a high ball drop and loopy kick, his poor decision making is in part due to his lack of confidence in his kicking. However he has x factor, moves beautifully and would be dangerous close to goal. Wouldnt want to be making the call at 13.
 
I wouldnt rule them out, just my observations and reading of summaries from guys in the west who see alot of Allan, he may develop with time and AFL exposure. Problem with Hotton is his limited visibility this year due to ACL,. however its clear that he has a high ball drop and loopy kick, his poor decision making is in part due to his lack of confidence in his kicking. However he has x factor, moves beautifully and would be dangerous close to goal. Wouldnt want to be making the call at 13.
I'm bearish on Allan but Hotton is a genuine threat inside 50. If we pick him it has to be with a view of playing him HF and not as a mid.
 
I personally like Hamish Davis with our second pick potentially, good size can / does play midfield and can hit the scoreboard. Would be interested in others thoughts on him. Seemed to do well at the combine too.
 
Somewhere in our draft haul I want a Toby Greene type player. Of all the potential draftees, who resembles him the most?
 
Somewhere in our draft haul I want a Toby Greene type player. Of all the potential draftees, who resembles him the most?
Don't think anyone really resembles him to be honest. The only one I can think of that's closest is Jesse Dattoli because he has the footy smarts and clean disposal. But even him I won't say is the exact same type.

Some players comparisons I'd say (although I don't really like doing that)

Jagga Smith - Zak Butters
Sam Lalor - plays like De Goey (I would say Dusty but that'd be rude to Dusty, he's a legend)
Taj Hotton - Shai Bolton (when in forward line)
Murphy Reid - Robbie Gray
Cooper Hynes - similar to the De Goey type
Xavier Lindsay - Kinda like Josh Kelly but less scoreboard impact
Joe Berry - Bayley Fritsch
 
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I’ve seen Allan play a couple of games for Peel last year.
Just on those games he didn’t stand out as anything special.
Obviously there’s more to him but I’ve never seen it in the games I attended.
Yeah, I definitely thought the same thing. If you take a look at his early form to the year and the Championships, he's not too bad but not a stand out at all but if you take a look at his most recent form, he improves out of sight and starts to look pretty darn good.

Allan plays midfield for all of the WAFL finals this year and looks strong, fast, powerful, two way and has a nice, long kick. At 190cm or thereabouts, he can actually power out of stoppage. That's the eye catching thing about Allan. He also uses that power to nail hard tackles and seems to enjoy it. He still needs midfield craft work as he use to play in the backline and I've yet to see him use his height to take some nice grabs, but yeah, check out his later form in WAFL and just before that in the Colts.

He would be an awesome replacement for Wines and would come into the side almost instantly. IMHO, he is worth burning a future 2nd rounder to move up in the draft. It would allow the Three Amigos legitimate time away from the centre to play forward or back and we would have our big bodied midfielder for the next ten years.
 
Somewhere in our draft haul I want a Toby Greene type player. Of all the potential draftees, who resembles him the most?
A Toby Geene clone would be a great get. I think the closest guy would be Ollie Hannaford.

The other guy who has his type of mercurial talent but not exactly the same player would be Taj Hotton.
 
I personally like Hamish Davis with our second pick potentially, good size can / does play midfield and can hit the scoreboard. Would be interested in others thoughts on him. Seemed to do well at the combine too.
If we grab him with the second or third pick, I'd be happy with that pickup.

I think he could play wing or half back early.
 
Hynes has good breakaway speed, don't know where that's comes from. Endurance sure can be questioned but can say the same for many draftees. Berry isn't what we need imo. If Berry had any midfield skills then sure we could take him but Hynes is also a good overhead mark and has strength to break tackles which is a huge part of modern game. Berry is just adding to the plethora of small forwards we now have.

Adding Hynes gives us a lot of flexibility when it comes to how we use JHF and Rozee
Hynes would definitely fit into that 3rd tall forward that we need.

One thing I will say and I was going to ask but watching his highlights, I've found Hynes to not be fast. He's seems average with speed and I've never seen him with breakaway speed.

Do you have any highlights that you know of where he showcases his speed because that is my one knock on him and if he has that, grabbing him with our 2nd pick would be good to go.
 
Yeah, I definitely thought the same thing. If you take a look at his early form to the year and the Championships, he's not too bad but not a stand out at all but if you take a look at his most recent form, he improves out of sight and starts to look pretty darn good.

Allan plays midfield for all of the WAFL finals this year and looks strong, fast, powerful, two way and has a nice, long kick. At 190cm or thereabouts, he can actually power out of stoppage. That's the eye catching thing about Allan. He also uses that power to nail hard tackles and seems to enjoy it. He still needs midfield craft work as he use to play in the backline and I've yet to see him use his height to take some nice grabs, but yeah, check out his later form in WAFL and just before that in the Colts.

He would be an awesome replacement for Wines and would come into the side almost instantly. IMHO, he is worth burning a future 2nd rounder to move up in the draft. It would allow the Three Amigos legitimate time away from the centre to play forward or back and we would have our big bodied midfielder for the next ten years.
We can't trade future picks because we traded our 1st rounder.

And no way, I'm not burning a pick to move up and grab Bo Allan. Of the top 15 players, for me he's got the lowest ceiling but a high floor. He'll be a solid 200 gamer but not one with the point of difference we need
 
Hynes would definitely fit into that 3rd tall forward that we need.

One thing I will say and I was going to ask but watching his highlights, I've found Hynes to not be fast. He's seems average with speed and I've never seen him with breakaway speed.

Do you have any highlights that you know of where he showcases his speed because that is my one knock on him and if he has that, grabbing him with our 2nd pick would be good to go.
I would say he doesn't have great speed like Rozee, Butters and JHF. But he's got enough speed and combined with his strength he's able to step through traffic and drive out of stoppages. I think pretty much any highlights package of Hynes on YouTube would show him breakaway from his opponent and creating some space. The other thing about Hynes is his disposal efficiency. Whenever I've watched him I've thought he makes clever decisions and usually finds the right target

I'd genuinely say, for our team, I'd rather have Hynes than Allan. Tbh I rate Hynes higher than Allan too. Think the fascination with Allan is his size and perhaps the fact that he's played at senior level and more AFL ready. But with pick 16, if we chose Hynes I wouldn't be upset at all. Is it a touch high? Yes, ideally we'd slide 2/3 spots back and take him while we upgrade our pick 29. There's 0% chance Hynes gets to our pick 29.

FWIW, Hynes didn't test at combine. I would've loved to see the numbers but if you take a look at his performances this year for Stingrays he's averaged 24 disposals 3 tackles and over 1 goal a game. The only thing I'd question about Hynes is endurance but he'll be in the mould of Dusty/De Goey/Stringer sort of player and I think we could really use one.
 

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