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Well that means a getting Richmond's 10/11 for our 13 and whatever. What could we offer that they would really want???Bo Allan would be just about ideal, but sitting right under West Coast's nose it's hard to see him getting to us, unless we pull a swifty pick trade on the night.
Allan is more athlete then pure footballer, still alot of undecided punters about his real endstate as a AFL footballer. Also revisited lots of footage on hotton and have come to firm conclusion that hes a very poor kick. Moves like a cat but his finishing by foot is poor, doubts on some of his decision making as well.I’ve seen Allan play a couple of games for Peel last year.
Just on those games he didn’t stand out as anything special.
Obviously there’s more to him but I’ve never seen it in the games I attended.
I would say too high. If we do the 13 for 19 and 22 trade with Sydney, then 22 seems about right IMO.could we take cooper hynes with 13? or is it too high for him?
The split maybe the way to go, just cant seem to find a clear winner at 13.I would say too high. If we do the 13 for 19 and 22 trade with Sydney, then 22 seems about right IMO.
Well 13 is really 16 and so I don't think it's that high for him. Saying that I'd try do 13 and 29 (really 16 and 33) for GWS' 16 and 21 (really 19 and 24) then get Hynes and Hannaford/Dattolicould we take cooper hynes with 13? or is it too high for him?
I don't mind Berry at 13, but I dont see any of the higher ranked guys sliding to 13. So maybe we can just hope that one of Berry/Lindsay (safe picks) or Hotton/Trainor (risky picks) slide to 19 and take Hynes/Hannaford at 22 or something if we split 13, IDK.The split maybe the way to go, just cant seem to find a clear winner at 13.
I don't mind Berry at 13, but I dont see any of the higher ranked guys sliding to 13. So maybe we can just hope that one of Berry/Lindsay (safe picks) or Hotton/Trainor (risky picks) slide to 19 and take Hynes/Hannaford at 22 or something if we split 13, IDK.
Hynes has good breakaway speed, don't know where that's comes from. Endurance sure can be questioned but can say the same for many draftees. Berry isn't what we need imo. If Berry had any midfield skills then sure we could take him but Hynes is also a good overhead mark and has strength to break tackles which is a huge part of modern game. Berry is just adding to the plethora of small forwards we now have.Yea Berry is the one with a higher ceiling than Hynes. Unfortunately Cooper Hynes although a big bodied mid/forward lacks pace and endurance.
Just afraid he may become a Dylan Williams and get found out at AFL level.
With Pick 13 we need to nail it not go after a draftee just because their big bodied...
If Bo Allan came through to our pick I would extremely pleased but Berry for me if we are realistic about the draft order.
If both summations are correct pass on bothAllan is more athlete then pure footballer, still alot of undecided punters about his real endstate as a AFL footballer. Also revisited lots of footage on hotton and have come to firm conclusion that hes a very poor kick. Moves like a cat but his finishing by foot is poor, doubts on some of his decision making as well.
Hynes will go early 20s at the latest. Has the x-factor which clubs generally love. Would be a touch early for our pick at 16 so wouldn't mind slipping a few spots back and picking him and another draft pick. But if we get no offers then I wouldn't mind us picking him at 16Hynes at 13 is way to early, I reckon he goes in the 20s, happy to pick him up, but not with 13.
I wouldnt rule them out, just my observations and reading of summaries from guys in the west who see alot of Allan, he may develop with time and AFL exposure. Problem with Hotton is his limited visibility this year due to ACL,. however its clear that he has a high ball drop and loopy kick, his poor decision making is in part due to his lack of confidence in his kicking. However he has x factor, moves beautifully and would be dangerous close to goal. Wouldnt want to be making the call at 13.If both summations are correct pass on both
I'm bearish on Allan but Hotton is a genuine threat inside 50. If we pick him it has to be with a view of playing him HF and not as a mid.I wouldnt rule them out, just my observations and reading of summaries from guys in the west who see alot of Allan, he may develop with time and AFL exposure. Problem with Hotton is his limited visibility this year due to ACL,. however its clear that he has a high ball drop and loopy kick, his poor decision making is in part due to his lack of confidence in his kicking. However he has x factor, moves beautifully and would be dangerous close to goal. Wouldnt want to be making the call at 13.
Don't think anyone really resembles him to be honest. The only one I can think of that's closest is Jesse Dattoli because he has the footy smarts and clean disposal. But even him I won't say is the exact same type.Somewhere in our draft haul I want a Toby Greene type player. Of all the potential draftees, who resembles him the most?
Yeah, I definitely thought the same thing. If you take a look at his early form to the year and the Championships, he's not too bad but not a stand out at all but if you take a look at his most recent form, he improves out of sight and starts to look pretty darn good.I’ve seen Allan play a couple of games for Peel last year.
Just on those games he didn’t stand out as anything special.
Obviously there’s more to him but I’ve never seen it in the games I attended.
A Toby Geene clone would be a great get. I think the closest guy would be Ollie Hannaford.Somewhere in our draft haul I want a Toby Greene type player. Of all the potential draftees, who resembles him the most?
If we grab him with the second or third pick, I'd be happy with that pickup.I personally like Hamish Davis with our second pick potentially, good size can / does play midfield and can hit the scoreboard. Would be interested in others thoughts on him. Seemed to do well at the combine too.
Hynes would definitely fit into that 3rd tall forward that we need.Hynes has good breakaway speed, don't know where that's comes from. Endurance sure can be questioned but can say the same for many draftees. Berry isn't what we need imo. If Berry had any midfield skills then sure we could take him but Hynes is also a good overhead mark and has strength to break tackles which is a huge part of modern game. Berry is just adding to the plethora of small forwards we now have.
Adding Hynes gives us a lot of flexibility when it comes to how we use JHF and Rozee
We can't trade future picks because we traded our 1st rounder.Yeah, I definitely thought the same thing. If you take a look at his early form to the year and the Championships, he's not too bad but not a stand out at all but if you take a look at his most recent form, he improves out of sight and starts to look pretty darn good.
Allan plays midfield for all of the WAFL finals this year and looks strong, fast, powerful, two way and has a nice, long kick. At 190cm or thereabouts, he can actually power out of stoppage. That's the eye catching thing about Allan. He also uses that power to nail hard tackles and seems to enjoy it. He still needs midfield craft work as he use to play in the backline and I've yet to see him use his height to take some nice grabs, but yeah, check out his later form in WAFL and just before that in the Colts.
He would be an awesome replacement for Wines and would come into the side almost instantly. IMHO, he is worth burning a future 2nd rounder to move up in the draft. It would allow the Three Amigos legitimate time away from the centre to play forward or back and we would have our big bodied midfielder for the next ten years.
I would say he doesn't have great speed like Rozee, Butters and JHF. But he's got enough speed and combined with his strength he's able to step through traffic and drive out of stoppages. I think pretty much any highlights package of Hynes on YouTube would show him breakaway from his opponent and creating some space. The other thing about Hynes is his disposal efficiency. Whenever I've watched him I've thought he makes clever decisions and usually finds the right targetHynes would definitely fit into that 3rd tall forward that we need.
One thing I will say and I was going to ask but watching his highlights, I've found Hynes to not be fast. He's seems average with speed and I've never seen him with breakaway speed.
Do you have any highlights that you know of where he showcases his speed because that is my one knock on him and if he has that, grabbing him with our 2nd pick would be good to go.