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Hold Me To It: Cornes and Edmund make some massive predictions for 2024​

Hawthorn will finish above Richmond and Essendon will finish above St Kilda
“Hold me to those two.
“Essendon have just got more weapons than what the Saints have had. The players seem, finally, hungry to me.
“The Bombers to finish above the Saints.”

Lynch will kick under 30 goals
“Tom Lynch from Richmond will kick under 30 goals in 2024.
“He’s just started running on a treadmill, he’s not even running on grass yet.
“He’s 31, he had surgery back in July, it’s going to be a rough year for Richmond and Tom Lynch.”

Chris Scott will be the next coach of the Brisbane Lions
“Whenever the time is that Brisbane get a new coach, Chris Scott will be that coach.
“Chris Fagan is 62, he’s signed a two-year contract extension which was well deserved, but I think the next coach of Brisbane will be Chris Scott.”

Ainsworth will become a top-50 player
“Hold me to this that by the end of season 2024, Ben Ainsworth will be included in everyone’s top-50 lists.
“This guy is a gun and I’ve read that he’s going to spend more time up the field and Damien Hardwick’s game plan will suit him.
“Think the Tom Papley role and he’ll become a top-50 player and on the cusp of the All-Australian squad by the end of this year.”

Grundy will be in the AA mix

“Brodie Grundy will be a hit in Sydney.

“He’ll be in All-Australian contention deep into the season, he’ll be in the 40-man squad.

“It’s going to work up there and he is going to pilot a reinvigorated engine room at the SCG.”

Longmuir will not survive the year as Freo coach

“Justin Longmuir doesn’t survive the year.

“By the law of averages, it’s hard to see him surviving given the circumstances.

“Freo are coming off an horrific trade period, they’ve lost more talent than they’ve brought in in the short term which is not going to help him this year.

“The club’s five-year plan called for last year to be a top-four finish (when they fell to 14th).”

Hawks and Swans will make headlines over Ugle-Hagan

“Hawthorn and Sydney will make headlines for an extraordinary contract offer for Jamarra Ugle-Hagan that will shock with its length and value.

“The Dogs will have to pay full freight to keep him, which I think that they’ll do, albeit he’ll have to stay for less.

“Those offers from Hawthorn and Sydney, when they come to light, will be enormous.”
 

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SuperCoach AFL 2024: 50 most-popular players in Team Picker revealed, expert verdicts​



SUPERCOACH’S MOST-POPULAR PLAYERS​

*Stats via Team Picker, available in SuperCoach Plus (as of January 11)
1. Harley Reid 85.6%
VERDICT: No surprise to see him as SuperCoach’s most-popular player. Being listed as a FWD all but ensured he would be one of the top-owned players in 2024.
2. Brodie Grundy 82.5%
VERDICT: Forget about Sydney’s early bye and pick him. Grundy averaged 138 in three games as Melbourne’s No. 1 ruckman last year.
3. Nick Daicos 78.3%
VERDICT: The Magpies superstar would likely be a Brownlow medallist now had he not missed the last three games of 2023. Has a bye in round 5 and an early date with Finn Maginess, but is so consistent you’re unlikely to get him for under $600k at any stage.
4. Zac Williams 69.4%
VERDICT: A must-have if selected in Carlton’s round 1 side.
5. Colby McKercher 62.5%
VERDICT: Huge junior numbers and should step straight into North Melbourne’s team. There’s been talk of a halfback role and we all know how well that worked out for Harry Sheezel.
6. Nick Coffield 62.2%
VERDICT: An easy pick for your defensive bench who will play round 1 if fit.
7. Jack Macrae 61.1%
VERDICT: Bailey Smith’s ACL injury means more midfield time — doesn’t it? Still a big watch in pre-season before committing to another season on the Luke Beveridge rollercoaster.
8. Daniel Curtin 58.9%
VERDICT: The dual-position status is a huge bonus. His intercept game will attract plenty of Champion Data love.
9. Max Gawn 57.9%
VERDICT: Just look at Gawn’s numbers against Brisbane Lions last year after Grundy was dropped to the VFL — 29 disposals, 39 hit-outs, seven tackles, five marks, 10 clearances and 215 SuperCoach points. He could well claim back his mantle as SuperCoach’s best big man this year.
10. Ryley Sanders 53.9%
VERDICT: Track watchers at Whitten Oval suggest the No. 6 draft pick hasn’t put a foot wrong in his first pre-season and could be a bolter to take Bailey Smith’s midfield spot. Lock him in.

11. Shaun Mannagh 50.2%
VERDICT: The man who blitzed the VFL Grand Final last year has to be a decent chance of a round 1 berth at Geelong. Lock him in regardless with DPP.
12. Jhye Clark 47.7%
VERDICT: Only one game as sub last year for the No. 7 pick. As a result he’s only $123k and a perfect midfield bench pick.
13. Jeremy Sharp 47.2%
VERDICT: Still some doubt about whether he can look in a wing spot at Fremantle, especially with talk of Heath Chapman moving further up the ground.
14. Sam Flanders 46.3%
VERDICT: Flanders’ incredible finish to 2023 was always going to make him a popular selection when so many FWD-MID premos last FWD status. Now all eyes are on Damien Hardwick and whether he has as much faith in Flanders as Steven King did.
15. Josh Gibcus 45.1%
VERDICT: Was one of the popular defensive rookies two years ago at a higher starting price than this. Hopefully he’s over the hamstring trouble that ruined his 2023 campaign.
16. Sam Walsh 44.1%
VERDICT: Recency bias is very real in SuperCoach and Walsh scored 111, 134 and 121 in last year’s AFL finals series. If you can cover the round 2 bye, he’s a great price for a player capable of averaging 120+.
17. Zane Duursma 43.7%
VERDICT: No point overthinking the forward line this year with so few premium options. Save some money and lock in Duursma, who should be a regular in North Melbourne’s team as a goalkicking half-forward/midfielder.
18. James Sicily 43.2%
VERDICT: Only Daicos is more expensive, but there’s good reason to pay up for the Hawks captain. He is the game’s premier interceptor and unlikely Daicos, doesn’t have an early bye to contend with.
19. Touk Miller 40.6%
VERDICT: If you can navigate the early bye rounds, both Miller and Walsh are great starting options at less than $600k. He hasn’t left my side since Team Picker opened.

20. Tom Stewart 35.5%
VERDICT: One of the most reliable scorers in SuperCoach and like Sicily, doesn’t have an early bye. Monitor his role in pre-season as there’s suggestions he could be used more often through the middle.
21. Zak Butters 34.9%
VERDICT: Love this pick. Huge ceiling and Port Adelaide doesn’t play in opening round so Butters will give you an extra premium through the early byes.
22. Hayden Young 34.9%
VERDICT: The ‘more midfield time’ hype is real. Young rocketed home last season, scoring 123, 118, 113 and 111 in the last round rounds. He showcased his ability to win his own ball which, couple with his linebreaking ability by foot, is SuperCoach gold.
23. Marcus Bontempelli 34.9%
VERDICT: Bontempelli comes at a hefty price tag ($724k), but you’re also getting a midfield who averaged nine points more than any other MID last year. Bontempelli dropped below 100 once in 23 games last season, a score of 89 in round 3. He’s worth paying top dollar for.
24. Toby Pink 32.1%
VERDICT: Not sure he’ll be a big scorer but North Melbourne has so few key defensive options that the former Sydney-listed player’s job security is sound.
25. Darcy Wilson 29.1%
VERDICT: Ross Lyon showed last year he isn’t afraid to blood the kids and Wilson is burning up the track at Moorabbin. A standout option for your MID or FWD bench.
26. Errol Gulden 27.3%
VERDICT: Almost won a Brownlow Medal last year after a season where he averaged 121.3 from round 14 onwards. Another player with an early bye, but that might not matter with his huge ceiling.
27. Nick Watson 26.8%
VERDICT: The man known as ‘The Wizard’ is no ordinary small forward. He’s got a bag of tricks, can win his own footy and seems like the type of player who will score SuperCoach points in a rush.
28. Tom Green 25.5%
VERDICT: If you include the finals series, the GWS midfield bull averaged 123 points in his final seven games of 2023. He looks ready to take the competition by storm.
29. Christian Petracca 24.1%
VERDICT: Petracca defied the extra time he spent in attack to average a career-best 119.5 last year. Will be a huge onus on him to lead the Demons’ engine room with doubts over Clayton Oliver’s immediate future.

30. Jack Billings 23.6%
VERDICT: Interesting pick. He’s a great price, but with his injury history could also be a sub option.
31. Sam Darcy 22.1%
VERDICT: Looks a generation talent but young talls have very rarely been great SuperCoach scorers. Consistency is likely to be an issue. Bench option at best.
32. Finlay Macrae 21.4%
VERDICT: Has no trouble finding the footy but has had trouble getting a regular game. Surely Taylor Adams' departure changes that. Lock him in.
33. Keidean Coleman 20.9%
VERDICT: Surprised his ownership isn’t higher considering how good he was on Grand Final day. Awkward price, early bye, but surely a steal with Daniel Rich now retired.
34. Harry Sheezel 20.6%
VERDICT: Most rookies tire at the end of their debut seasons but Sheezel got better. Can’t see his scoring going any way but north, even if he spends more time in the middle.
35. Tom Lynch 20.6%
VERDICT: We’re going to need to get creative in the forward line and Lynch is a player capable of going on scoring hot streaks. The Tigers spearhead started last year at $519k and peaked at $576k in 2022.
36. Luke Davies-Uniacke 19.8%
VERDICT: Coaches who faded LDU learned a valuable lesson last year. When he’s fit, he’s a must-have. Davies-Uniacke scored 122 points or more in eight of his 14 games.
37. Nate Caddy 19.3%
VERDICT: Not sure how consistent he will be as a scorer, but should get early games as Essendon tries to add another dimension to its attack.
38. Luke Jackson 19.0%
VERDICT: I can understand the appeal, but not while Sean Darcy is fit. Jackson scores best as the No. 1 ruck, as we saw late last year when he averaged 130 from rounds 21-24. That run has distorted his starting price somewhat.
39. Marty Hore 18.6%
VERDICT: It’s now five years since Hore averaged 70.6 points in his debut season as a Demon and was one of the best SuperCoach rookies of 2019. Can he do it again? Melbourne’s backline is pretty settled, although Michael Hibberd’s retirement might provide an opening.

40. Jordan Dawson 18.3%
VERDICT: Looms as a serious POD, but one that is hard to fault. Elite kicking, contested ball and tackling. The Crows skipper ticks every SuperCoach box.
41. Finnbar Maley 17.3%
VERDICT: Looks to be the best of the RUC-FWD bench options.
42. Tim English 17.2%
VERDICT: Didn’t love hearing Rory Lobb saying he expects to spend more time in the ruck. Watch the splits with interest in pre-season and look at cheaper options if English is playing too much time forward.
43. Jack Sinclair 17.1%
VERDICT: Seems to be the forgotten man in the discussion about defensive premiums but so rarely lets coaches down. Avoids the early byes too.
44. Taylor Adams 16.4%
VERDICT: His injury history concerns me, but the promise of returning to an inside midfield role is encouraging. Still think there are better FWD options for cheaper.
45. Jack Steele 16.1%
VERDICT: Definitely underpriced, but by how much? Has some great games in the run home last year but also scored a 52 and 57 after the byes. One to monitor in pre-season before committing.
46. Zac Fisher 16.0%
VERDICT: When did SuperCoaches start looking at halfback roles instead of midfield switches? Fisher looks like he might be the man to step into the vacant quarterback role left by Jack Ziebell and Aaron Hall leaving Arden St. And, he’s listed as a FWD. Could be a risk worth taking.
47. Aaron Cadman 15.9%
VERDICT: Don’t really understand this one. He’s still cheap but averaged 22 in 12 games last year, eventually losing more than $100k on his starting price.
48. Jordon Sweet 15.9%
VERDICT: Scratched him from my list as soon as Ivan Soldo’s trade went through.
49. James Jordon 15.6%
VERDICT: I’m bullish on Jordon, especially when he’s still listed as a FWD. But the price is awkward, so I want to see his role before getting too excited.
50. Sam Naismith 14.7%
VERDICT: What a story the former Swan is after playing his way back to the big time by dominating with Port Melbourne. He’ll serve as a back-up to Toby Nankervis, so isn’t likely to be very relevant in SuperCoach though
 
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Surprised Grundy is only 82%, must be 18% auto pick this year.
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Gulden and Green being in 25%+ despite having 2 byes before half the comp has 1 is insane.
 
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I was more surprised by the 62.5% for McKercher.

"Would you like to start with a Sheezel type rookie in your team"

"No thanks"

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Is it just me in thinking that McKercher will outscore Reid
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balmainforever said:
Is it just me in thinking that McKercher will outscore Reid
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I think the chances of that happening is very good. Reid dosen't have outstanding scoring at U18 level and he will probably spend a lot of time forward in a Sh!t team. He could struggle to average 60
 
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I think the chances of that happening is very good. Reid dosen't have outstanding scoring at U18 level and he will probably spend a lot of time forward in a Sh!t team. He could struggle to average 60
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Agree ....hopefully WCE put Reid behind the ball, to get him involved in the play as much as possible
 
A Bit Dusty said:
I think the chances of that happening is very good. Reid dosen't have outstanding scoring at U18 level and he will probably spend a lot of time forward in a Sh!t team. He could struggle to average 60
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I reckon they will follow the Sheezel template and let him (Reid) play at half back to get him used to AFL. Sounds like he's not very fit, maybe he gets a bit of midfield through the year.

Doubt he scores like Sheezel, but we're buying job security. They didn't mind resting Ginbey last year though.
 
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Gulden and Green being in 25%+ despite having 2 byes before half the comp has 1 is insane.
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I'd probably start both if not for that early bye lol. But yeah, it makes no sense. Grundy is so cheap you can't leave him imo.
 

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Is it just me in thinking that McKercher will outscore Reid
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Does anyone think Reid will outscore McKercher?

There's about a 10% chance of that happening, he didn't get close as an 18 year old and McKercher will be playing off half back this season.

I think McKercher averages 85+. With the potential to be even higher imo.

He will average over 20 disposals a game, maybe as much as Sheezel. I'm certain of it.

He's just got too much going for him from a athletic point of view and accumulation ability. He's already significantly quicker and fitter than the average AFL player. He looks absolutely rapid on the track even around LDU and Wardlaw. He is in the Daicos mould of getting 3-4 possessions in a single chain of possession.

I'd be absolutely shocked if he was outscored by another rookie this year. The only one with that possibility is Sanders imo if he somehow cemented himself as a starting mid at the Dogs. Unlikely. Or McKercher faces a significant injury.
 
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This thread was designed for this s*** .....it's a footy competition ....next you won't release players heights, because you know, that's also private info

AFL recruiter to potential draftee ...."what's your height & weight"

Draftee ....I can't tell you .....it's private, between me and my Doctor .....and you can't speak to him, until he gets out of jail for defrauding Medibank

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The AFL has deemed revealing player weights as inappropriate, meaning for the first time in its history, the AFL Season Guide has been printed without the information.

Kane Cornes revealed the development on Friday, slamming the call and saying a player’s body is their job and therefore the information is of public interest.

“Remember in 2021 the AFL banned perspective draftees from getting their skinfolds done at the draft combine for mental health reasons and treading carefully with the younger generation,” Cornes told SEN Afternoons.
“That was scrapped much to the disgust of many club recruiters.

“I can reveal to you this afternoon that the AFL Season Guide is out … the AFL has stopped including player weight.

“Can you believe it? I was alerted to this yesterday … if you get your book and you want to look up what Jordan De Goey weighs, you will no longer be able to find it.

“The world has gone so soft. I can’t believe it.

“You’re a professional athlete. You’re not an influencer on social media. Any other sport I can look that up. I can tell you Travis Kelce was 113kg. His quarterback Patrick Mahomes weighs 102kg.

“No longer in my role as a commentator can I say Jake Lever is playing on Charlie Curnow, Curnow has an 8kg advantage – he should take him deep to the goal square.

“I can’t do that anymore because the AFL have said that we are that soft that we can’t include player weights in the Season Guide. I don’t know where this is going to lead to.

“Are they going to ban us from knowing that Caleb Daniel is 168cm? He could easily be offended by being one of the shortest players in the game.”
 
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I'd probably start both if not for that early bye lol. But yeah, it makes no sense. Grundy is so cheap you can't leave him imo.
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Yeah can't fault them as picks outside of the garbage fixture job.
Would have loved to start Green.
 
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The AFL has deemed revealing player weights as inappropriate, meaning for the first time in its history, the AFL Season Guide has been printed without the information.
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Probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't see a reason why the public would need to know details like that? The data being available does not make any difference in the consumption of the sport.

Considering when the data is taken as well, most of it is out of date by the time the season rolls around anyway.

As for Cornes comments about commentary, perhaps the commentators can try and think of something different to talk about other than big guy plays on littler guy.
 
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Juzzomac said:
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't see a reason why the public would need to know details like that? The data being available does not make any difference in the consumption of the sport.

Considering when the data is taken as well, most of it is out of date by the time the season rolls around anyway.

As for Cornes comments about commentary, perhaps the commentators can try and think of something different to talk about other than big guy plays on littler guy.
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Fact is .....players heights and weight have never been accurate on Club Websites .....players heights can vary and even shrink by 5cm, from one season to the next

It's more the principle .....if the sport is about athletic players ....not divulging the players athletic profile is ridiculous

The question is, where does the privacy component stop .....2km time trials, medical history, injury documentation in trades ect
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
Fact is .....players heights and weight have never been accurate on Club Websites .....players heights can vary and even shrink by 5cm, from one season to the next

It's more the principle .....if the sport is about athletic players ....not divulging the players athletic profile is ridiculous

The question is, where does the privacy component stop .....2km time trials, medical history, injury documentation in trades ect
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The principle of what exactly? The afl doesn’t have weight requirements to enter and it’s one minor component of athleticism anyway. Should we get access to their lung capacity? Red cell count? Testosterone levels?

The privacy component is just for the public, clubs would still have access to everything they need to make a decision on a player (and players aren’t traded without comprehensive medicals done in the first place by the new club anyway).
 
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The principle of what exactly? The afl doesn’t have weight requirements to enter and it’s one minor component of athleticism anyway. Should we get access to their lung capacity? Red cell count? Testosterone levels?

The privacy component is just for the public, clubs would still have access to everything they need to make a decision on a player (and players aren’t traded without comprehensive medicals done in the first place by the new club anyway).
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And yet, this is an Australian issue .....the major worldwide sports are providing more info to fans .....we're choosing to go the opposite direction .....for now
 
Do you want know how much weight Jack Steele has lost or put on this pre season to make a call on him ?
Well unless you ask him you are not going to know.
Two years ago whinging from a couple of fat AFLW “players” had caliper tests and fat clubs banned at pre season.
Now because of “sensitivities” player weights will not be published. Yes for the men as well !

welcome to the Woke AFL.
 
Floating Doughnut said:
Do you want know how much weight Jack Steele has lost or put on this pre season to make a call on him ?
Well unless you ask him you are not going to know.
Two years ago whinging from a couple of fat AFLW “players” had caliper tests and fat clubs banned at pre season.
Now because of “sensitivities” player weights will not be published. Yes for the men as well !

welcome to the Woke AFL.
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He could lose weight and be less fit? He could gain weight and be fitter?

Don't think the weight they publish changing by a few kg's tells us much. Finishing 5th in their time trial is probably more relevant than his exact weight. There was a poster here, forgotten who sorry, hinting Steele had had an incident last preseason that was having an effect on him last year. They never really elaborated though.

Are the height/weight stat's even accurate anyway? I know over here in Rugby it's a running joke what measurements they publish. Some players admit to putting something different each year. It's not taken seriously.
 
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