Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[I got the outside word]

Calsher got some deodorant with a card featuring Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

on it, Baz to Hawks locked in. Don’t think they have each others MySpace though.

 

[Bugs1977]

We don't do that but if we were to get him from another club it would be a 2nd round pick with something going back the other way like a future 3rd or 4rd, but we will give him away for a packet of chips.

We are to nice sometimes, hopefully we play hard ball if swans want him it's a 2nd rounder.

New regime mate. If he does ask to leave let's see how it plays out. Some already did float the idea of Frost + 2nd for another teams 1st rounder.

 

[HawksILove]

Calsher got some deodorant with a card featuring Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

on it, Baz to Hawks locked in. Don’t think they have each others MySpace though.

I wish it was locked in.
Bailey just waiting for Geelong to exit in the finals, and then he will nominate them

 

[daniel23]

I wouldn't mind some more second round picks in this draft, frosty might unlock that. And if it means we can keep serong , I wouldn't be against it.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

We don't do that but if we were to get him from another club it would be a 2nd round pick with something going back the other way like a future 3rd or 4rd, but we will give him away for a packet of chips.

We are to nice sometimes, hopefully we play hard ball if swans want him it's a 2nd rounder.

It’s time we play ball a little more. Happy to assist the player, just need fair compensation based on the going rates. Ty

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

that's unders, going rate for aging defenders is 2 first rounders

It’s still an improvement on what we’d ask for previously.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I wouldn't mind some more second round picks in this draft, frosty might unlock that. And if it means we can keep serong , I wouldn't be against it.

I’d like both the Whitlock twins, both flexable KPP forward and Defence.

 

[mustang]

It’s time we play ball a little more. Happy to assist the player, just need fair compensation based on the going rates. Ty

It will be interesting what we get, if he says I want to be traded to swans.

Every reporter is saying Barrass is worth 2 first rounders for a key back that is a Premiership player, so surely a key back who is a couple of years older should be worth at least one 2nd rounder.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

It will be interesting what we get, if he says I want to be traded to swans.

Every reporter is saying Barrass is worth 2 first rounders for a key back that is a Premiership player, so surely a key back who is a couple of years older should be worth at least one 2nd rounder.

Pick 19 will be pushed back a lot after compo, so would be fair If Frosty decided to leave and we agreed.

 

[Roddy]

Can we please hurry up and get this here ‘prelim’ and ‘grand final’ stuff out of the way quickly so we can get to trade week?

I want Barrass and Battle officially at our club…

 

[HawkJA]

Hey guys I don't post much but always read. Frosty stay's. I would pick this guy every week. He's in your face and gives it everything. Ever since we got him every year he has improved and I just love watching him do his thing

 

[kazzooka]

Calsher got some deodorant with a card featuring Bailey Smith on it, Baz to Hawks locked in. Don’t think they have each others MySpace though.

Roughhead is in those ads too.

 

[Billyc]

Pick 19 will be pushed back a lot after compo, so would be fair If Frosty decided to leave and we agreed.

absolutely no chance we would get that.

Reality is, if Frost leaves, we won’t get much. He’s worth more to us than we are likely to receive. Keep him

 

[badboybobba]

I’m not sure Barrass is an upgrade on Frost for our team, Frost is the only out and out defend first player we have in the back six, the rest like to peel off and play a more attacking style, this is also how Barrass prefers to play.

We must keep Frost, he’s as important as any if we are to give the flag a shake next year

 

[mustang]

absolutely no chance we would get that.

Reality is, if Frost leaves, we won’t get much. He’s worth more to us than we are likely to receive. Keep him

Why won't we if they want him they will, a lot said we wouldn't get anything for Lewis also, if a club came for him, some people massively under rate our players, if they lose the prem final they could offer that to just fill a hole to win a flag like we are with Barrass.

They why are we rumoured to be paying 2 firsts for Barrass, is this because clubs see us coming then.

 

[butlers hawks]

I’m not sure Barrass is an upgrade on Frost for our team, Frost is the only out and out defend first player we have in the back six, the rest like to peel off and play a more attacking style, this is also how Barrass prefers to play.

We must keep Frost, he’s as important as any if we are to give the flag a shake next year

Sam Frost, while he has been great this year, is 12 months removed from everyone in here calling for Blanck over him

Tom Barrass is at the very least an All Australian squad member (2022) and a club Best and Fairest winner

While he is a great intercept marker he isnt a peel off and attack player

Again Frost has been amazing but Barrass will be an upgrade at FB...however, there is a place for both in the same side

 

[butlers hawks]

Why won't we if they want him they will, a lot said we wouldn't get anything for Lewis also, if a club came for him, some people massively under rate our players, if they lose the prem final they could offer that to just fill a hole to win a flag like we are with Barrass.

They why are we rumoured to be paying 2 firsts for Barrass, is this because clubs see us coming then.

people in here love to say geez people under rate our players but the flip side is a lot of the people saying that over rate our guys too

It isnt just Hawthorn supporters, every fan overrates their players. The people that are being called out for "underrating" are more often than not closer to the pin on what a trade eventuates at because they are realists.

No one is saying Frost is a bad player but the last time people were saying our players were being undervalued in here Hawthorn got picks 41 and 50 for Tom Mitchell.

This whole Frost compared to Barrass cost comparison has a ton of variables in it too.

1 Barrass is a BnF winner
2 Barrass has made an AA squad
3 Barrass is two years younger
4 Hawthorn has offered higher money and longer term than his current deal

Barrass has been seen as one of the best key defenders in the competition for the best part of 5 years, Sam Frost, while important this season, prior to it frustrated fans at three different clubs with a run and carry game style the media dubbed "Frostball"

I am not saying Frost is a bad player or that Hawthorn should move him on, actually I would like him to stay and play with Barrass and Battle but comparing the two players purely because the play the same position is like comparing Apples and Oranges

 

[Bugs1977]

people in here love to say geez people under rate our players but the flip side is a lot of the people saying that over rate our guys too

It isnt just Hawthorn supporters, every fan overrates their players. The people that are being called out for "underrating" are more often than not closer to the pin on what a trade eventuates at because they are realists.

No one is saying Frost is a bad player but the last time people were saying our players were being undervalued in here Hawthorn got picks 41 and 50 for Tom Mitchell.

This whole Frost compared to Barrass cost comparison has a ton of variables in it too.

1 Barrass is a BnF winner
2 Barrass has made an AA squad
3 Barrass is two years younger
4 Hawthorn has offered higher money and longer term than his current deal

Barrass has been seen as one of the best key defenders in the competition for the best part of 5 years, Sam Frost, while important this season, prior to it frustrated fans at three different clubs with a run and carry game style the media dubbed "Frostball"

I am not saying Frost is a bad player or that Hawthorn should move him on, actually I would like him to stay and play with Barrass and Battle but comparing the two players purely because the play the same position is like comparing Apples and Oranges

Wouldn't be surprised if Frosty wins our BnF. More realistically though probably a top 3 finish.

 

[TONYC3163]

I’m not sure Barrass is an upgrade on Frost for our team, Frost is the only out and out defend first player we have in the back six, the rest like to peel off and play a more attacking style, this is also how Barrass prefers to play.

We must keep Frost, he’s as important as any if we are to give the flag a shake next year

Barrass is clearly an upgrade on Frost. There is a reason the List Management Team and Sam want him.

 

[satan1]

The drama with Frost now we are obviously setting ourselves up to win a premiership next year is the club's he would be worth the most at are the ones we would least likely want to deal to.

Also he deserves to be at a contender.

Has to stay or straight swap Harley Reid.

 

[Hawked Wings]

Give frosty 2 years, at worst hes kpd depth

 

[seysearles]

I get that you’d rather keep him than give him away for nothing. He’s probably worth more to you as a back up than a junk pick

At the same time you’ve gone ahead and recruited not one, but two players who will be above him in your defensive pecking order. Do you think he’s in your best 22 now?

All I was saying was 18 or 19 won’t be in the picture and we don’t have a second round.

If you’d like me to multi quote earlier posts a couple of pages back, multiple suggested they’d require a second rounder and one poster suggested he was worth a first round pick.

The latter simply isn’t realistic and if he decides he wants out, what is a 31 year old, non best 22 player worth?

No need for the insults, my post was reasonable

As context we are being told by West Coast that their full back who is only 2 years younger than Frost is worth 2 x first rounders and that our pick 12 isn't enough.

 

[FB19]

Would you take a 2nd rounder for Frost?

As Sydney don’t have one it will have to be pick 19 then. After an arguably AA squad year and far better than Lachie Schulz, that only seems fair.

 

[Mrzohs]

The club has clearly identified two guys for a reason. They are not bringing in two defenders to lose the #1 KPD at the club.

After Blanck was injured, Frost was our #1. The rise off Weddle had Scrimmers training with the KPD in the preseason.

Frost & Scrimmers played 1&2 for most of the season. Punching above their weight and height. Both did a great job!

Weddle was the third mobile defender.
Sicily is the quarter back who intercepted at will in AA form.

The inclusions of Barrass & Battle will hopefully have a flow on affect across the ground. Barrass will push Frost to #2, Scrimmers will take on Sicily role.

Battle inclusion as #3 should get (Weddle) a mobile aerial player across the ground. While also providing another focal point up forward (Sicily).

Chol and Dear did a tremendous job but they are also not the 1&2 ( Lewis Inj)

Ultimately these players could be swapped, our side will have the versatility to challenge if Plan A is taken away from us.

 

[FB19]

I like Frost and rate him very highly as a 1v1 defender. But he's not versatile, he can really only play the lock down defender role. If he gets too much of the ball he becomes a weakness not a strength.

He can play on talls and smalls and has the speed strength and leap to really negate most forwards. But he can't play other positions or really offer good rebound.

Didn’t he take a lot of intercept marks last year or the year before but the problem was then his disposal? I see him being incredibly valuable barrass and frost and Hardwick defend and Sicily battle impey attack with scrimshaw and weddle a balance of both looks a great mix to me.