Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[halfback dasher]

I wonder what Carlton would want for Owies??

No doubt. Would love your opinion of what else might be available?

Uh oh

Didnt sign out of his other account. Sylly.

If that what floats your boat! Unbelievable.
Easy. Simply won’t post.

Don’t let em in Tops

Mate you should see the barrage I've copped on socials today from Port fans. Mute/ ignore is your friend.

That’s gold

 

[halfback dasher]

WTF is going on in here these days …
You young folks be off ya heads !!!

 

[Flukey!]

There is very little social in social media.
It's horrible, especially X.

I don't understand why anybody wants to be on there.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

I don't understand why anybody wants to be on there.

 

[rei154]

Don’t say a word. Except where you won’t cop such treatment. That is the way forward. It is very clear people don’t want you to partake. They are jealous of your info. As they are mine.

My DMs are always open

Happy to be a shield and to deal with the twats if it means more chatter can go on here!

I will have to do something about the quality of puns though...

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Not at all shocked that someone who was in my DMs saying we should be more civil to each other is on here today being a campaigner to Tops.

Topiary please don’t disappear mate, you’re more valued than the dipshits who are trying to knock you.

 

[satan1]

Don't let them tear us apart

 

[cryptor]

Very strange last few pages.

Tops mistakenly replies to himself and a few people give him a light ribbing. Next minute hysteria about social media trolls and threats to stop posting ITK info.

I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, and chill the flip out.

 

[Shot of Jaeger]

Need a private group for the ITK's and those who respect them and appreciate them.

Also even though I already cannot stand most of the media, I laugh at the Hawks hate/cats love when they say Barrass for 2 1sts (almost 29 with a crook back) but Cats 1st and change for Baz (23/24 yes coming off an ACL but young and super fit) should do it. F$&k me.

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[MasterSamurai]

Need a private group for the ITK's and those who respect them and appreciate them.

Also even though I already cannot stand most of the media, I laugh at the Hawks hate/cats love when they say Barrass for 2 1sts (almost 29 with a crook back) but Cats 1st and change for Baz (23/24 yes coming off an ACL but young and super fit) should do it. F$&k me.

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Yea agree with you. That's ridiculous how some of these so called know how's get things wrong. Smith for a pick 16 or so plus change! And worst, no one in the media pulls anyone up on these lop sided deals they come up with.

 

[Linda CRS]

Mate you should see the barrage I've copped on socials today from Port fans. Mute/ ignore is your friend.

Don’t be to impacted by others thoughts. Reality is it’s the premise of social media, say what you want but have enough courage to realise others can say what they want too. Ridiculous, defamatory or whatever!

 

[bigmaxi]

Thinking is difficult, that's why people Judge. Carl Jung.
Stay with us Top's.

 

[Bugs1977]

Yea agree with you. That's ridiculous how some of these so called know how's get things wrong. Smith for a pick 16 or so plus change! And worst, no one in the media pulls anyone up on these lop sided deals they come up with.

I think it's important to remember that the 2 x 1st rounders banter is / was coming from West Australian media which led to WC fans doing the same. If you go off of Barrass's speech at the BnF the other night then I think we can safely say that the deal has already been agreed to in principle (what that deal is is debatable). Most sane people would agree that no club is trading 2 x 1st for anyone but a younger star that is in his prime that gives more than 5+ years of top line football. As good as TB is there no way we get more than 3-4 years and for 2 x 1st that just wouldn't be worth it which most clubs would agree with.

The deal will get done as long as WC don't try to pull something unreasonable after we've clearly agreed on something that has made TB comfortable enough to approach WC to ask them for to trade him to Hawthorn.

Teammates so ‘flat’ as departing veteran makes emotional admission

The beloved defender has been praised for his ‘amazing’ gesture at the club awards.

7news.com.au

 

[cs61]

I really hope we keep Frost. Battle might be needed to do what Himmelberg does at GWS when injuries happen, which is swing forward. With Lewis out most of the year, we are paper thin up forward, and having that flexibility with Battle and others will be important. We aren't used to having depth in our talls, but quality sides should have this issue where you wonder where to fit them in, but also have players to call on when injuries occur. Also Frost has shown he can play full back, 2nd tall, but also play on the smaller forwards too. He is crazy hard at the ball, the type of warrior you want playing in the finals. Even if he asks to go, I think we have to play a strong game here, we need to start keeping players unless clubs pay a quality price. More and more fringe players are going to be looking for opportunities, we need to be a bit more like Geelong and get the absolute most for them if they do leave or we keep them.

 

[Hawkthorn33]

Would love the club to extend Frost’s contract another year, without a trigger being necessary.

He is very versatile down back as many are saying and I think Battle will be the true swing man up our sleeve to play third tall down back or second tall up forward.

I basically see Battle being interchangeable with Sicily. Also if memory serves me right, he even was second ruck in stints for the Saints. I don’t imagine we would be looking to give him that task but depending on injuries he is capable.

What a flexible squad we will have next year

 

[Bugs1977]

I really hope we keep Frost. Battle might be needed to do what Himmelberg does at GWS when injuries happen, which is swing forward. With Lewis out most of the year, we are paper thin up forward, and having that flexibility with Battle and others will be important. We aren't used to having depth in our talls, but quality sides should have this issue where you wonder where to fit them in, but also have players to call on when injuries occur. Also Frost has shown he can play full back, 2nd tall, but also play on the smaller forwards too. He is crazy hard at the ball, the type of warrior you want playing in the finals. Even if he asks to go, I think we have to play a strong game here, we need to start keeping players unless clubs pay a quality price. More and more fringe players are going to be looking for opportunities, we need to be a bit more like Geelong and get the absolute most for them if they do leave or we keep them.

I think the idea depending on matchups will be to swing one of Sicily or Dimma forward during games. With Lewis out the majority of next season I think Sicily will play forward a fair bit which opens up a spot for Frosty. I think Scrim ends up taking over Sicily's floating as the loose man role and Barrass slides into Scrim's role which allows Frost just to resume as the lockdown FB. Dimma will just keep playing on the oppo's most dangerous SF. Battle comes in and pushes Weddle either onto the wing or on ball which I'm sure will be revealed in the preseason.

With how good we transitioned the ball out of the backline this season who plays on those wings will be key to how we fit in Barrass, Battle whilst keeping Frost in the team as well. Having Weddle on the wing with his speed / running power might be an option to keep that transition game as a strength. There's so much flexibility within the team It's going to bloody exciting.

FB Battle Frost Hardwick
HB Impey Barrass Scrimshaw
C Weddle Newcombe D'Ambrosio or Amon

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Leave Topiary alone. All of you.

ALL OF YOU.

 

[grumbleguts]

Thinking is difficult, that's why people Judge. Carl Jung.
Stay with us Top's.

I can tell if a person is overly judgemental just by looking at them.

 

[HedgeFund]

3 of their best 4players came from the academy. And their captain.

When you are used to privilege, equality can seem like oppression. Thats where Pridham and the Swans supporter base are now', playing victim all the time. There is not a more entitled lot in the afl.

Used to privilege?

Amartey - rookie pick
Fox - rookie pick
Papley - rookie pick
Rampe - rookie pick
Melican - rookie pick
Lloyd - rookie pick
McLean - supplementary pick
Cunningham - pick #102 (rookie elevation)
Grundy - traded for 46 + F2

That’s 9 out of Friday’s 23 who were basically bottom of the barrel selections or cast offs from other clubs.

What about the above suggests these players were gifted due to “privilege”?

Sydney’s success is due more to their exceptional drafting at the bottom end and creating a great development environment.

 

[Bugs1977]

Used to privilege?

Amartey - rookie pick
Fox - rookie pick
Papley - rookie pick
Rampe - rookie pick
Melican - rookie pick
Lloyd - rookie pick
McLean - supplementary pick
Cunningham - pick #102 (rookie elevation)
Grundy - traded for 46 + F2

That’s 9 out of Friday’s 23 who were basically bottom of the barrel selections or cast offs from other clubs.

What about the above suggests these players were gifted due to “privilege”?

Sydney’s success is due to more to their exceptional drafting at the bottom end and creating a great development environment.

We've done the analysis of Sydney's drafting many times now. What I think the majority of us agreed on was that by Sydney being gifted top selections through their academy it has allowed them to then take risks with their lower picks + rookie picks. Whilst it might seem slight what we've seen is that other teams don't have the privilege to take those risks as they're under pressure to petty much nail all of their selections and I'm talking everything from the national through to the rookie draft.

Whilst slightly different just imagine the risks the HFC would be able to take if we were to be gifted Alix Tauru and Christian Moraes through our NGA. We could move on from what seems to be a failed pick with DGB and bring in Tauru and then take a punt on Moraes who scoped to go early but has fallen in the ranking throughout the year.

It's important to look the guys that you listed above to see who was taken through their academy which in turn allowed them to take risks elsewhere. Other clubs don't have access which is a leg up whether you want to acknowledge it or not and that's not taking away from the awesome drafting they've done (they're awesome in this area if not the best) with rookie picks but just highlighting that other list managers don't have the same luxury.

 

[burger09]

Used to privilege?

Amartey - rookie pick
Fox - rookie pick
Papley - rookie pick
Rampe - rookie pick
Melican - rookie pick
Lloyd - rookie pick
McLean - supplementary pick
Cunningham - pick #102 (rookie elevation)
Grundy - traded for 46 + F2

That’s 9 out of Friday’s 23 who were basically bottom of the barrel selections or cast offs from other clubs.

What about the above suggests these players were gifted due to “privilege”?

Sydney’s success is due more to their exceptional drafting at the bottom end and creating a great development environment.

Take away Heeney, Mills, Blakey and Gulden and they are a middle of the road team.

 

[Bugs1977]

Leave Topiary alone. All of you.

ALL OF YOU.

Your comment really needs a GIF.

All of yooooooooooou!

 

[CD Xbow]

Take away Heeney, Mills, Blakey and Gulden and they are a middle of the road team.

Take out the top 4 from any good team and there is a reasonable chance they become a middle of the road team. Very even comp.

 

[Bugs1977]

Take away Heeney, Mills, Blakey and Gulden and they are a middle of the road team.

Does anyone know if Tassy will be given an academy? Having priority access to a Colby McKercher and others whether anyone wants to acknowledge on not is a serious leg up.

 

[TazHawk15]

Sydney’s success is due more to their exceptional drafting at the bottom end and creating a great development environment.

What’s this success you speak of?
Is it the two lousy Premierships in over 90 years?
That’s only marginally better than St.Kilda.
They won a Flag in 2005 after a 72 year drought and since then they have won 1 Flag in the ensuing 19 years.

FFS if that is successful, I would hate to see what a failure is.