Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[grumbleguts]

What's all this about 13 F1 F2 Reeves and Sicily's wife for Barrass. Just give then Ned Reeves and show them the first quarter of the Geelong game where he did his shoulder. Geelong didn't touch the ball for the first several minutes such was his dominance.

 

[Roddy]

Some posters want to win flags, and others would prefer to win trade week.

Had we listened to BF in the early 10s, I hate to think how much success we would have missed out on.

Yep, as I said earlier, I distinctly remember very similar kneejerk objections to Burger, Goo, Lake, Hale, Gibbo, Big Boy…………

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Barrass for our first rounder and Reeves is a good deal. I'd much rather we keep our F1.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

There was a whisper late last year they were interested, then nothing. Who knows. He is surplus to our needs given our gameplan has changed, but still has value given the lack of rucks in the league

Serong is more surplus to needs than Reeves though.

It will be one or the other headed west with our first, I assume.

 

[KermitJagger]

I like Perryman but he's not THAT much better than say, Harry Morrison. I can see why we're dipping out now that interest has bumped up his potential salary to $800k or more.

 

[RCAB]

Once again I find myself stoked out of my mind that BF posters are not Hawthorn recruiters or list managers. People talking themselves in circles trying to talk themselves out of grabbing Barrass have NO idea.

If a player of his calibre and profile drops into your lap, you fall all over yourself grabbing him.

That list you quoted has Jeremy Cameron. If Hawks gave up two first round picks for Barrass, we'd be paying almost the same as what Cats payed to get Jezza out of GWS.

Barrass is not Jeremy Cameron. Jeremy Cameron also didn't have injury concerns when he came to Geelong.

 

[TONYC3163]

We didn’t over pay for Guerra Lake Hale or Gibbo. All those trades were fair or in our favour (particularly Lake). Burgoyne is the outlier and he justified the two first rounders but for every Burgoyne you have an Omeara and Wingard who we almost definitely squandered a lot of opportunities and success by drafting. Big Boy the sentiment was very much that it was absurd that we received only pick 19 for Franklin which wasn’t enough for the trade and we had to throw in Savage. Debating whether the trade is reasonable is not an unhealthy thing to do. Lots of clubs over pay for players and screw themselves. There are many examples I can think of: Beams, Gibbs, Weller, Grundy, Kelly, Croad, Fevola, Polek (off the top of my head. Feel free to add). There are literally too many to list. So to portray people that object to overpaying for a player as naysayers and fools is extremely arrogant.

Prefer to go with Hawks List Management folk.

 

[Bugs1977]

What's all this about 13 F1 F2 Reeves and Sicily's wife for Barrass. Just give then Ned Reeves and show them the first quarter of the Geelong game where he did his shoulder. Geelong didn't touch the ball for the first several minutes such was his dominance.

It was I that made the suggestion of pick 13, F2 + Reeves for Barrass + F3. This would be my max offer for him and the only reason I mentioned it was after all the 2 x first rounder talk which I am against. I think it's paramount that we keep our hands on our F1.

 

[KermitJagger]

We didn’t over pay for Guerra Lake Hale or Gibbo. All those trades were fair or in our favour (particularly Lake). Burgoyne is the outlier and he justified the two first rounders but for every Burgoyne you have an Omeara and Wingard who we almost definitely squandered a lot of opportunities and success by drafting. Big Boy the sentiment was very much that it was absurd that we received only pick 19 for Franklin which wasn’t enough for the trade and we had to throw in Savage. Debating whether the trade is reasonable is not an unhealthy thing to do. Lots of clubs over pay for players and screw themselves. There are many examples I can think of: Beams, Gibbs, Weller, Grundy, Kelly, Croad, Fevola, Polek (off the top of my head. Feel free to add). There are literally too many to list. So to portray people that object to overpaying for a player as naysayers and fools is extremely arrogant.

Ding ding ding! Congratulations Seysearles on officially sparking the 1000th revisiting of the Chad Wingard and Jaeger O'Meara trades on this board!

 

[Bugs1977]

Serong is more surplus to needs than Reeves though.

It will be one or the other headed west with our first, I assume.

I very early in piece mentioned our 2024 1st + Reeves and I got shot down for it. Do really think Reeves will be the only steak knives that is needed? Well I guess he is a bloody big 210cm steak knife

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Barrass for 2024 1st or walk. Nothing else. Don’t listen to these media parrots or west coast. They’ll come knocking at the 11th hour for sure. They want him off their books. If they don’t blink then good on them and they can keep him. More than happy to load up the backline with Battle and Serong as depth and go to the draft and get a gun forward or mid with that juicy first rounder. Happy days.

Our future first may work, if the media is correct and eagles are looking to make up a package for Swans Warner in 2025

* Id rather keep our first in the 2024 draft

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Big Boy the sentiment was very much that it was absurd that we received only pick 19 for Franklin which wasn’t enough for the trade and we had to throw in Savage.

We absolutely won that trade every day of the week. McEvoy was contracted, touted as a future captain of the Saints and one of the best ruckman in the comp. 19 and a mid-tier player was a steal.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Ding ding ding! Congratulations Seysearles on officially sparking the 1000th revisiting of the Chad Wingard and Jaeger O'Meara trades on this board!

10 years from now he will still be talking about it. The boy is just risk averse. He just doesn't want to take any risks

 

[FB19]

There are a few posters who are so desperate for Barrass they are constantly thinking up ways to get it done. They seem mortally scared that Eagles won't budge from 2 F1's and hence all these somersaults.

If Smith was still on target list for Hawks then 2 F1's would not have been enough but now Cats may land him for 16 & swap of 2nds.

I am thankful that none of them are in list management & are out of sync with how the wider footy community values players.
Mostly over and doing my best to ignore the wild takes.

Now are are there any potential targets in the below list. Other than Charlie Clarke who seemed highly rated in his draft yr but was injured, I can't see any. What about Jai Culley from Eagles?

Every club’s out-of-contract players​

Adelaide: Lachie Gollant, Will Hamill, Elliott Himmelberg, Ned McHenry, Patrick Parnell
Brisbane: Luke Beecken, Darcy Craven, Darragh Joyce, Kalin Lane, James Madden, Carter Michael, Jaxon Prior
Carlton: Jack Carroll, Matt Carroll, Sam Durdin, Matt Owies
Collingwood: Jack Bytel, Charlie Dean, Josh Eyre, Ned Long, Nathan Kreuger, Oleg Markov, Reef McInnes, Joe Richards, Lachie Sullivan
Essendon: Jayden Davey, Will Setterfield, Sam Weideman
Fremantle: Tom Emmett, Odin Jones, Max Knobel, Liam Reidy, Ethan Stanley, Patrick Voss
Geelong: Jed Bews, Patrick Dangerfield, Mitch Duncan, Jake Kolodjashnij, Rhys Stanley
Gold Coast: Levi Casboult, Hewego Paul Oea
GWS Giants: Adam Kennedy, James Peatling, Harry Perryman, Conor Stone
Hawthorn: Josh Bennetts, Denver Grainger-Barras, Harry Morrison, Jack O’Sullivan, Ethan Phillips
Melbourne: Marty Hore, Joel Smith, Adam Tomlinson
North Melbourne: Blake Drury, Cooper Harvey, Charlie Lazzaro
Port Adelaide: Travis Boak, Charlie Dixon, Francis Evans, Kyle Marshall, Tom McCallum, Quinton Narkle, Tom Scully
Richmond: Mate Colina, Matt Coulthard, Noah Cumberland, Thomson Dow, Jack Graham, Kamdyn McIntosh
St Kilda: Jack Hayes, Olli Hotton, Zak Jones, Tim Membrey, Ben Paton
Sydney Swans: Harry Arnold, Jack Buller, Aaron Francis, Tom Hanily, Jacob Konstanty, Jaiden Magor, Lachie McAndrew, Caleb Mitchell, Cooper Vickery
West Coast: Coby Burgiel, Jai Culley, Luke Edwards, Josh Rotham, Alex Witherden
Western Bulldogs: Charlie Clarke, Riley Garcia, Jason Johannisen, Alex Keath

There’s a few interesting names. I was big on Ollie Hotton in his draft and saints took him just before Hustwaite. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Riley Garcia well. Jacob Konstanty has a future but maybe the wrong guy for us. Also wondered about Gollant being behind the crows tall forwards looked ok the few times I saw him as a 3rd forward.

 

[FB19]

Yes.
As much as we need a FB.. we need an inside bull mid to help Mr Poowong.


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[TazHawk15]

You guys love to play the man. Not great. I’m not having a go at any of you personally. Do you think ad hominem is a good way of conversing on a forum of people that all passionately support the same team? My strong opinion is that we shouldn’t pay more than one first for Barrass and there are other people on here that feel that same way. Stamping your feet and calling us names isn’t going to change that.

Maybe it’s because you seem to be stamping your feet about paying too much for Barrass, even before you know what the actual deal is.

Maybe cool your jets and wait till after the event, then feel free to stamp your feet to your heart’s content.

 

[FB19]

Some posters want to win flags, and others would prefer to win trade week.

Had we listened to BF in the early 10s, I hate to think how much success we would have missed out on.

Fortunately most of those posters are Essendon supporters bowing at the Dodo altar! Any excuse…

 

[TheFourPillars]

You guys love to play the man. Not great. I’m not having a go at any of you personally. Do you think ad hominem is a good way of conversing on a forum of people that all passionately support the same team? My strong opinion is that we shouldn’t pay more than one first for Barrass and there are other people on here that feel that same way. Stamping your feet and calling us names isn’t going to change that.

How am I playing the man mate. Am I wrong in saying that u r risk averse?

 

[hawkinoz]

That list you quoted has Jeremy Cameron. If Hawks gave up two first round picks for Barrass, we'd be paying almost the same as what Cats payed to get Jezza out of GWS.

Barrass is not Jeremy Cameron. Jeremy Cameron also didn't have injury concerns when he came to Geelong.

Cats got 2nd round picks back for the both the 1st round picks.

In a complex deal, the Cats sent picks No.13, 15 and 20 and a future fourth-round selection to the Giants in exchange for Cameron, the Giants' future second-round selection and a future second-round selection tied to Essendon from [URL='https://www.afl.com.au/news/523649/']the earlier Jye Caldwell deal[/URL].

So it was 13 and 2 pick slides for Cameron aged 26 I think. Cats know how to get trades done that sets up club for sustained finals appearance.

 

[Hawks_Footy]

Pick 13 and Noodle for TB is a fair price to pay.. I think an F2 or equivalent player is right given the Eagles are after young assets and TB won't be around when they start moving back up the ladder.. he might be contracted but we definitely have leverage in this negotiation

 

[KermitJagger]

You guys love to play the man. Not great. I’m not having a go at any of you personally. Do you think ad hominem is a good way of conversing on a forum of people that all passionately support the same team? My strong opinion is that we shouldn’t pay more than one first for Barrass and there are other people on here that feel that same way. Stamping your feet and calling us names isn’t going to change that.

I'm not playing the man, I'm making a comment that for the 1000th time we're now rehashing trades from 6-7 years ago in posts that will probably be deleted by mods.

 

[seysearles]

How am I playing the man mate. Am I wrong in saying that u r risk averse?

If I’m risk adverse you are someone willing to take idiotic and unnecessary risks that jeopardises the future of the club on Hail Marys. But of course I wouldn’t say that because I don’t play the man. Just debate the point like someone that has been properly socialised and don’t make personal comments and assumptions about other posters.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I'm not playing the man, I'm making a comment that for the 1000th time we're now rehashing trades from 6-7 years ago in posts that will probably be deleted by mods.

How I’m imagining SYL feels when he sees the topic come up again:

 

[Gut Runner]

Barrass for our first rounder and Reeves is a good deal. I'd much rather we keep our F1.

What ruck do we get in to replace? Or is Max the back up?