Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[Slaatybaadfaast]

Except Macrae isn’t an essential part of the circus, in fact he is touring with them but only making an appearance right at the end in the background. That’s the point.

One is a pretty rare and hard to find act. The other can be find on most street corners who can do at least 80% of the job. That’s why the value is so far apart.

3 x All Australian big bodied midfielder mate. Youre on copious magic mushrooms if you think they loiter on street corners. Without a good midfield, wouldnt matter if u had Ayres, Langford, SOS, Scarlett and Glen fakking Jakovich in defence. Anyway, agree to disagree. Life's too short

 

[CHUBBSS]

Just waiting for Mark Mackenzie to make his entrance on the last day

 

[FB19]

It sounds complex and will likely get gamed.

I'm against any compensation altogether, but if we have to have it, just take 1st round compo off the table altogether.

While we are on it, remove the 20% discount for academy and f/s picks. Priority access is reward enough.

Agree on the discount as things stand. although if the DVI gets redone to only the first 2 rounds then it makes more sense to offer some discount. think my proposal is better than what we have whilst acknowledging not perfect.

 

[The Seaword]

Whatever the free agency changes are, it should impact the clubs in the deal and not the other 16 clubs. So salary cap penalties make sense

Other rule could be clubs in the top 4 can’t get free agents.

Struggling clubs don’t get the priority picks anymore because it was promoting tanking, but now we get contract tanking where clubs don’t want to match offers because the draft compensation is too high.

 

[bigmaxi]

My missus Nickname for MM is Mister Scruffy, I tried to explain to her how he is so busy he sleeps in his clothes. She asked if he was paid enough and I tried to explain tanking for free agents to get a discount on their fathers and sons and when I looked up she was asleep.

 

[A Diakos]

Other rule could be clubs in the top 4 can’t get free agents.

Struggling clubs don’t get the priority picks anymore because it was promoting tanking, but now we get contract tanking where clubs don’t want to match offers because the draft compensation is too high.

that's called a restraint of trade

any board or player could take that to court and get to crumble this whole afl system

 

[peetoo]

One paced accumulating midfielders are easily the easiest player to find I. The AFL. I have a lot of time for Jack who has been great, but the values aren’t at all comparable.

So what went wrong for the hawks 2016-19?

 

[unitedhawk]

I heard someone on radio yesterday suggest that rather than provide compo picks, the AFL should apply a penalty to the club acquiring the player under free agency in the form of an additional salary cap hit - e.g. if you get a player by FA for say $800k p.a., it would count for say $1.2m in your salary cap.

This would incentivise clubs to trade for players if reasonable to avoid the hit (which would benefit the other club) and also make for a cumulative impact on 'destination' clubs that snare a number of FA's due to 'lifestyle factors' or 'big crowds' as opposed to those who need to use the cap to retain players. We also avoid compromising the draft order and avoid the rubbish manipulation of player contracts to achieve an outcome

Whilst I know it would never happen, I personally dont mind the suggestion as just allowing full Free Agency would inevitably institutionalise the 'rich club/poor club' dynamic more than it is. We already know that star players will move for less to play in big crowds or with other star players so people who say the freed up salary cap is all the benefit the club losing the player needs are wrong in my view.

This makes far too much sense for the AFL to consider.

 

[Stranglers]

Just waiting for Mark Mackenzie to make his entrance on the last day

That's the goat gif or nothing, thank you very much.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

that's called a restraint of trade

any board or player could take that to court and get to crumble this whole afl system

The draft itself is a possible restraint of trade and it doesn’t stop it existing. That’s why there’s no draft in the NRL because a player successfully challenged it in court back in the 90s.

 

[earthworms]

Tom Barrass

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Tom Barrass

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for Stew deal or Denim jeans, is a fair trade?

 

[westhawk]

Ryan Daniels on 7 news tonight said the hold up is West Coast want our future second thrown in. They want this deal done fast so they can get others done with our first.

 

[big footy cyril]

Ryan Daniels on 7 news tonight said the hold up is West Coast want our future second thrown in. They want this deal done fast so they can get others done with our first.

A lot of ‘I wants’ in that scenario.

 

[excitingnews]

Ryan Daniels on 7 news tonight said the hold up is West Coast want our future second thrown in. They want this deal done fast so they can get others done with our first.

That can’t be right, I’ve been seeing eagles fans pre-trading our future first for months now

 

[HawthornHawk]

Ryan Daniels on 7 news tonight said the hold up is West Coast want our future second thrown in. They want this deal done fast so they can get others done with our first.

Our future second and their future third, should only end up being a 1 or 2 pick downgrade

 

[Barry Damage]

If you’re going Clint then this has to be it I reckon

 

[Bugs1977]

The draft itself is a possible restraint of trade and it doesn’t stop it existing. That’s why there’s no draft in the NRL because a player successfully challenged it in court back in the 90s.

That was the late Terry Hill

 

[hawkinoz]

Ryan Daniels on 7 news tonight said the hold up is West Coast want our future second thrown in. They want this deal done fast so they can get others done with our first.

This should upset so many Hawks fans who were ready to throw in the F1 to get the deal done.

I am glad the MM is earning some of his bread. if Smith is pick 16 with something coming back then pick 14 by itself is more than enough, ideally want something coming back but willing to settle at pick 14 as goodwill gesture and for Eagles to "save face"

Houston may end up going for 13 with something coming back or Blues F1+F2

 

[westhawk]

That can’t be right, I’ve been seeing eagles fans pre-trading our future first for months now

They are a weird bunch.

 

[seysearles]

Somewhat apropos to the discussions in this thread.

 

[tl92]

This should upset so many Hawks fans who were ready to throw in the F1 to get the deal done.

I am glad the MM is earning some of his bread. if Smith is pick 16 with something coming back then pick 14 by itself is more than enough, ideally want something coming back but willing to settle at pick 14 as goodwill gesture and for Eagles to "save face"

Houston may end up going for 13 with something coming back or Blues F1+F2

Smith is not 16 with something coming back though.

 

[Lickmesocks]

Smith is not 16 with something coming back though.

Correct, I keep reading on here that Smith is only pick 17.

Dogs are saying they want more than pick 17.

Yes cats have pick 17 in the national draft and could walk him but what a shiiit thing to do and make him wait another 5 weeks without a club.

I would love the saints in that scenario to take Bailey.

 

[Lickmesocks]

For all the bagging Cornes cops he actually knows his stuff

Dan rioli is not worth pick 6 let alone pick 23 added to it.

Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

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12.7

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9.2

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4.6

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2.0

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2.6

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is not worth pick 10 and pick 18

Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

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26

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72kg

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15.7

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7.8

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2.6

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222.2

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14.6

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6.8

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7.9

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3.8

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1.8

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191.9

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14.4

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6.2

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8.2

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1.6

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1.8

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224.2

4star

pick 14

Crazy offers going on.

 

[Bugs1977]

Correct, I keep reading on here that Smith is only pick 17.

Dogs are saying they want more than pick 17.

Yes cats have pick 17 in the national draft and could walk him but what a shiiit thing to do and make him wait another 5 weeks without a club.

I would love the saints in that scenario to take Bailey.

If he gets walked to the PSD… just saying the Hawks do pick before the Cats*





















*Wont happen though but fooking hell I'm here for it

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

Keep holding out. The longer this goes on the more desperate the 2 1st rounders will be. Pick 14 absolute max.