Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[HolyRioli]

Tigers are perfectly placed to get rid of anyone with currency now, and can add the "Premiership Player" premium onto some of them. They will be weaker next season off the back of this but will bring in multiple first round picks this year, give young players gametime, have more high picks and will be done with the draft stage when Tasmania comes in.

They will then have cash to chase Free Agents in a few years too. But will have to fight Tasmania who will no doubt get some concessions there.

I think Us, North, Gold Coast and Richmond will be best placed for 2026-2032 but we will peak and drop first when our older guys Sicily, Barrass, Frost, Hardwick, Impy, Amon finish up.

Freo too

 

[daniel23]

Tigers are perfectly placed to get rid of anyone with currency now, and can add the "Premiership Player" premium onto some of them. They will be weaker next season off the back of this but will bring in multiple first round picks this year, give young players gametime, have more high picks and will be done with the draft stage when Tasmania comes in.

They will then have cash to chase Free Agents in a few years too. But will have to fight Tasmania who will no doubt get some concessions there.

I think Us, North, Gold Coast and Richmond will be best placed for 2026-2032 but we will peak and drop first when our older guys Sicily, Barrass, Frost, Hardwick, Impy, Amon finish up.

Richmond just seems like a rabble atm. And we've seen time and time again teams loaded with top 20 picks doesn't necessarily mean success in 5 years when they hit there prime. A best 22 player walking out of the club in one off season isn't a great sign and they have 4 so far. Their once strong culture is gone and they will have very little leadership next year starting with their coach.

 

[seysearles]

With clubs lining up for Houston, what could we get by splitting pick 14 (say F1 and F2), and what permutation would WC accept if pick 14 isn't involved?

Im going to be very interested to compare the final results of the Barrass Smith and Houston trades to see if there is any consistency in what is considered fair trade value. Houston is a seriously good contracted player with 2 AA’s and has four clubs chasing him. He plays in a better team and stands out as elite. He’s also 2yrs younger than TB. Does it make any sense he would cost less than Barrass? If so perhaps we should just enter the Houston market instead and let West Coasts to try convince Carlton and Collingwood try to meet their demands.

 

[Elhawko]

Tigers are perfectly placed to get rid of anyone with currency now, and can add the "Premiership Player" premium onto some of them. They will be weaker next season off the back of this but will bring in multiple first round picks this year, give young players gametime, have more high picks and will be done with the draft stage when Tasmania comes in.

They will then have cash to chase Free Agents in a few years too. But will have to fight Tasmania who will no doubt get some concessions there.

I think Us, North, Gold Coast and Richmond will be best placed for 2026-2032 but we will peak and drop first when our older guys Sicily, Barrass, Frost, Hardwick, Impy, Amon finish up.

I wonder if they are placing Noah Balta at risk with this gutting of their list though. He's an FA next year and will be just 25. He'd command a massive contract from most clubs and he may be tempted to leave, given the Tiges are likely to be a bottom club for the next four years or more, which will be his peak years. There would be several clubs with realistic finals aspirations that could offer him huge money to leave. Not sure what vision the Tiges can offer him to stay compared to the lure of big games and finals at other clubs. And him aside, there's not many other established stars there that can support developing players.

All these trades are a risk I think they have to take given they have lucked out that the suitors for their contracted players all have multiple first round picks to play with this year that they won't have next year, but if they don't draft really well it could go very badly wrong at Punt Rd! Bottom clubs don't attract FAs as readily as competing teams so clearing out so much of your middle tier age group is a big roll of the dice. They could be making themselves into another Gold Coast.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

I think Houston is the best player who looks likely to move this trade period.

Absolute weapon

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[Mojo]

Richmond just seems like a rabble atm. And we've seen time and time again teams loaded with top 20 picks doesn't necessarily mean success in 5 years when they hit there prime. A best 22 player walking out of the club in one off season isn't a great sign and they have 4 so far. Their once strong culture is gone and they will have very little leadership next year starting with their coach.

Remember: Club success is cyclical.

I'm taking the optimistic POV for Richmond - they're jostling to reconstruct their list in the shortest time possible.

The commentary around how many selections they might have in the top-30 of this year's draft (reportedly deep), is EXACTLY what they should be looking to take advantage of.

• They'll receive relevant currency for players that likely won't be around for their next premiership-tilt.
• They'll acquire a plethora of young players that can learn & develop together, as friends; this is so, so valuable.
• They'll, perhaps most importantly, rebuild the majority of their list prior to Tasmania's entrance into the AFL.

 

[Stranglers]

I'm still mystified as to how we only managed to get a late 2nd rounder for Hill. On the numbers being talked up at the moment, 2 x top 10 picks would have been more appropriate.

 

[Buzz Hawk]

I’m just laughing at Roos offer of pick 62 for Luke Parker

26

Luke Parker

Age

32

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

D

22.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

8.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

. He’ll be their top two midfielder for at least 2 years.
Seriously, bring this whole charade down to one week.

 

[hardway]

I'm still mystified as to how we only managed to get a late 2nd rounder for Hill. On the numbers being talked up at the moment, 2 x top 10 picks would have been more appropriate.

Santa at his merriest!

 

[kazzooka]

Richmond just seems like a rabble atm. And we've seen time and time again teams loaded with top 20 picks doesn't necessarily mean success in 5 years when they hit there prime. A best 22 player walking out of the club in one off season isn't a great sign and they have 4 so far. Their once strong culture is gone and they will have very little leadership next year starting with their coach.

It's never easy when you are at the bottom, but they are giving themselves every chance by shifting the age profile of the list. Old players are gone, prime players that have currency are getting cashed in so they can get talent in now and give them games. There will be no opportunity to get multiple first round picks in 3-4 years time.

They would be more of a rable if they get kept out of the bottom 4 by Bolton, Rioli, Baker, Lynch, Graham and then retiring for nothing and having lower picks. Then plumetting back to the bottom in 2027 and 2028 when the top draft picks aren't there.

 

[unitedhawk]

I'm still mystified as to how we only managed to get a late 2nd rounder for Hill. On the numbers being talked up at the moment, 2 x top 10 picks would have been more appropriate.

We didn't have MM running the show then.

 

[kazzooka]

I wonder if they are placing Noah Balta at risk with this gutting of their list though. He's an FA next year and will be just 25. He'd command a massive contract from most clubs and he may be tempted to leave, given the Tiges are likely to be a bottom club for the next four years or more, which will be his peak years. There would be several clubs with realistic finals aspirations that could offer him huge money to leave. Not sure what vision the Tiges can offer him to stay compared to the lure of big games and finals at other clubs. And him aside, there's not many other established stars there that can support developing players.

All these trades are a risk I think they have to take given they have lucked out that the suitors for their contracted players all have multiple first round picks to play with this year that they won't have next year, but if they don't draft really well it could go very badly wrong at Punt Rd! Bottom clubs don't attract FAs as readily as competing teams so clearing out so much of your middle tier age group is a big roll of the dice. They could be making themselves into another Gold Coast.

They will enter 2025 draft with Picks 1 and 2 if he leaves as a Free Agent. They probably want him to go.

 

[KermitJagger]

Im going to be very interested to compare the final results of the Barrass Smith and Houston trades to see if there is any consistency in what is considered fair trade value. Houston is a seriously good contracted player with 2 AA’s and has four clubs chasing him. He plays in a better team and stands out as elite. He’s also 2yrs younger than TB. Does it make any sense he would cost less than Barrass? If so perhaps we should just enter the Houston market instead and let West Coasts to try convince Carlton and Collingwood try to meet their demands.

You're not going to find consistency, and no single trade is ever a reasonable basis for comparison with another.

The amount each club values a player, the number of years they're contracted, the position they play, the amount each club will pay of their remaining contract and so on. Trades are so much more complicated than you're making them out to be, and the only thing you're going to do by trying to compare them is annoy yourself.

 

[kirbatron]

It's never easy when you are at the bottom, but they are giving themselves every chance by shifting the age profile of the list. Old players are gone, prime players that have currency are getting cashed in so they can get talent in now and give them games. There will be no opportunity to get multiple first round picks in 3-4 years time.

They would be more of a rable if they get kept out of the bottom 4 by Bolton, Rioli, Baker, Lynch, Graham and then retiring for nothing and having lower picks. Then plumetting back to the bottom in 2027 and 2028 when the top draft picks aren't there.

I think Hawthorn have made it far more palatable to cut a list deep (it's a form of tanking) & rebuild.

tiges need to nail the picks & it seems to be a good draft but they're a chance for 3peat spoons as well..

 

[PenAndPaper]

Im going to be very interested to compare the final results of the Barrass Smith and Houston trades to see if there is any consistency in what is considered fair trade value. Houston is a seriously good contracted player with 2 AA’s and has four clubs chasing him. He plays in a better team and stands out as elite. He’s also 2yrs younger than TB. Does it make any sense he would cost less than Barrass? If so perhaps we should just enter the Houston market instead and let West Coasts to try convince Carlton and Collingwood try to meet their demands.

You're completely disregarding the roles they play. An elite full back is more valuable to most teams than an elite half back.

 

[Iceman!]

I’m just laughing at Roos offer of pick 62 for Luke Parker. He’ll be their top two midfielder for at least 2 years.
Seriously, bring this whole charade down to one week.

He won’t even be top two next year

 

[RoughysMullet]

I’m just laughing at Roos offer of pick 62 for Luke Parker. He’ll be their top two midfielder for at least 2 years.
Seriously, bring this whole charade down to one week.

No he won’t - 31 he’s nearly finished - will be a salary dump for the swans - LDU and Sheezel comfortably top 2 for north

 

[Buzz Hawk]

He won’t even be top two next year

For the Roos he will. He’s still top shelf.

 

[unitedhawk]

I think Hawthorn have made it far more palatable to cut a list deep (it's a form of tanking) & rebuild.

tiges need to nail the picks & it seems to be a good draft but they're a chance for 3peat spoons as well..

Doesn't always work out, though. Look what happened to the Shinbeggars after they let their veterans go almost a decade ago. They're in the third or fourth iteration of their rebuild since then.

I reckon the bloke (who can't be named) you allude to is still traumatised by what his team has been going through and that may well have been a factor in his slanderous belittling of our own decision to cut the likes of Titch and JOM and begin our own rebuild.

I guess better clubs just know how to rebuild better.

 

[Iceman!]

For the Roos he will. He’s still top shelf.

LDU and Sheezel already gone past him alone.

 

[Spudwick]

LDU and Sheezel already gone past him alone.

And Wardlaw

 

[butlers hawks]

Im going to be very interested to compare the final results of the Barrass Smith and Houston trades to see if there is any consistency in what is considered fair trade value. Houston is a seriously good contracted player with 2 AA’s and has four clubs chasing him. He plays in a better team and stands out as elite. He’s also 2yrs younger than TB. Does it make any sense he would cost less than Barrass? If so perhaps we should just enter the Houston market instead and let West Coasts to try convince Carlton and Collingwood try to meet their demands.

Can’t compare them in totality though. Yes okay age but different positions, different contracts, different assets to put up in trade

But no Houston isn’t where they should be going. That would be getting someone for the sake of it

 

[Mercy Seat]

I'm still mystified as to how we only managed to get a late 2nd rounder for Hill. On the numbers being talked up at the moment, 2 x top 10 picks would have been more appropriate.

2 years ago we traded Tom Mitchell for Cooper Stephens (and paid most his salary). Don’t think even that flies in this years market.

 

[Buzz Hawk]

No he won’t - 31 he’s nearly finished - will be a salary dump for the swans - LDU and Sheezel comfortably top 2 for north

He’s contracted for a year with the swans, it’s not a substantial salary dump we’re talking here.

 

[earthworms]

Not an itk just an idk, but feeling like the barrass deal will get done tomorrow