Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[FB19]

We need to develop the next generation. Besides have you seen Andersons game with Boxhill this year? Dude is hard at it, remind me of how nuke started at Boxhill early on.

He will start as a small pressure forward given his love to tackle and we need that given we delisted 2 and butler is injured and more importantly not a small forward.

 

[TylerDurden]

We need to develop the next generation. Besides have you seen Andersons game with Boxhill this year? Dude is hard at it, remind me of how nuke started at Boxhill early on.

He's as tough as any kid I've seen.

 

[mustang]

He will start as a small pressure forward given his love to tackle and we need that given we delisted 2 and butler is injured and more importantly not a small forward.

Still think Butler could make it but as a midfielder in the Zac butters mould, would add a different type in there if he could.

I'd like to see him if his leg is strong enough to train with the midfield group over summer, in what could be his last shot at the club.

 

[HawthornHawk]

We need to develop the next generation. Besides have you seen Andersons game with Boxhill this year? Dude is hard at it, remind me of how nuke started at Boxhill early on.

You need to keep recruiting and developing mids. Any kid we take this year might not peak until Nash and Worpel are 30. From 2009 til 2017 we were unable to draft a best 22 calibre mid and we paid for it eventually.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Yep, keep drafting talent. I think we're ok for defenders , rucks and medium size frwds, but need to still stock up on at least 1 inside mid and a kpf through the next three drafts. I'd rather not trade unless a A grade star is available. Concentrate on FA's and the draft.

 

[excitingnews]

And even then they would fail, I feel.

They have nothing to lean back on. No history of success. No big or marquee MCG games. No well documented culture. No big rivalry.

They’re just irrelevant and when they are competing for the same players that clubs like Carlton, Collingwood, Hawthorn and Geelong are they will almost always lose out.

I don’t think their Chairman coming out and having a whinge session at the B&F about how they can’t compete with other clubs because they don’t have the talent, can’t access the talent and the league is so unfair would help them in any way with trying to sell potential recruits either. That to me was a real bonehead move. Literally announcing that they’ve given up unless the AFL given them a leg up… which they then did.

And god forbid you ever try to leave, they’ll revoke your invitation to the bnf and spit at you on the way out

 

[hawkinoz]

Let me try and resurrect this thread and hopefully trade discussions can be made here.
At Pick 33 we will have enough options. Surely one of Sims, Gerryn, Mraz, Barrat, Oliver, Davis etc will be available. So any trade deals that includes pick 33 means other side are not losing out much as this draft is quite equal from 15-35 or so.

Hopefully we are able to snag either Dons or Lions top pick. Dons more likely as switchroo is straightforward but they will have enough suitors too.
Herald Sun Mock Draft,
Archive of Day 1

https://archive.is/AfftB

Day 2

https://archive.md/RgzQy

PICK 1 - LEVI ASHCROFT (Brisbane Lions)
PICK 2 - SAM LALOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 3 - ALIX TAURU (NORTH MELBOURNE)
PICK 4 - FINN O'SULLIVAN (CARLTON)
PICK 5 - SID DRAPER (ADELAIDE)
PICK 6 - JAGGA SMITH (MELBOURNE)
PICK 7 - JOSH SMILLIE (RICHMOND)
PICK 8 - HARVEY LANGFORD (ST KILDA)
PICK 9 - LEO LOMBARD (GOLD COAST SUNS) *Matching St Kilda bid
PICK 10 - TOBIE TRAVAGLIA (ST KILDA)
PICK 11 - HARRY ARMSTRONG (MELBOURNE)
PICK 12 - ISAAC KAKO (ESSENDON) *Matching Richmond bid
PICK 13 - LUKE TRAINOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 14 - JOBE SHANAHAN (RICHMOND)
PICK 15 - BO ALLAN (WEST COAST)
PICK 16 - MURPHY REID (PORT ADELAIDE)
PICK 17 - XAVIER LINDSAY (FREMANTLE)
PICK 18 - TAJ HOTTON (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 19 - JACK WHITLOCK (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 20 - JOE BERRY (WESTERN BULLDOGS)
PICK 21 - COOPER HYNES (RICHMOND)
PICK 22 - JONTY FAULL (SYDNEY)
PICK 23 - ALEX DODSON (RICHMOND)
PICK 24 - JESSE DATTOLI (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 25 - SAM MARSHALL (BRISBANE LIONS) *Matching Sydney bid
PICK 26 - CHRISTIAN MORAES (SYDNEY)
PICK 27 - MATT WHITLOCK (RICHMOND)
PICK 28 - Richmond – Harry Oliver (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 29 - Western Bulldogs – Ollie Hannaford (Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country)
PICK 30 - West Coast – Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
PICK 31 - Port Adelaide – Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
PICK 32 - Fremantle – Kayle Gerreyn (West Perth/Western Australia)
PICK 33 - St Kilda – Tom Sims (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
PICK 34 - Hawthorn – Hamish Davis (Claremont/Western Australia)
PICK 35 - Western Bulldogs – Angus Clarke (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 36 - Greater Western Sydney – Logan Smith (GWS Giants Academy/Allies)
PICK 37 - Port Adelaide – Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 38 - St Kilda – Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 39 - Carlton – Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
PICK 40 - Carlton – Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 41 - Essendon – James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country)

Came across this fan ranking with player comparison, Strength & weakness by BennyGan

 

[VandoHawk]

Let me try and resurrect this thread and hopefully trade discussions can be made here.
At Pick 33 we will have enough options. Surely one of Sims, Gerryn, Mraz, Barrat, Oliver, Davis etc will be available. So any trade deals that includes pick 33 means other side are not losing out much as this draft is quite equal from 15-35 or so.

Hopefully we are able to snag either Dons or Lions top pick. Dons more likely as switchroo is straightforward but they will have enough suitors too.
Herald Sun Mock Draft,
Archive of Day 1

https://archive.is/AfftB

Day 2

https://archive.md/RgzQy

PICK 1 - LEVI ASHCROFT (Brisbane Lions)
PICK 2 - SAM LALOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 3 - ALIX TAURU (NORTH MELBOURNE)
PICK 4 - FINN O'SULLIVAN (CARLTON)
PICK 5 - SID DRAPER (ADELAIDE)
PICK 6 - JAGGA SMITH (MELBOURNE)
PICK 7 - JOSH SMILLIE (RICHMOND)
PICK 8 - HARVEY LANGFORD (ST KILDA)
PICK 9 - LEO LOMBARD (GOLD COAST SUNS) *Matching St Kilda bid
PICK 10 - TOBIE TRAVAGLIA (ST KILDA)
PICK 11 - HARRY ARMSTRONG (MELBOURNE)
PICK 12 - ISAAC KAKO (ESSENDON) *Matching Richmond bid
PICK 13 - LUKE TRAINOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 14 - JOBE SHANAHAN (RICHMOND)
PICK 15 - BO ALLAN (WEST COAST)
PICK 16 - MURPHY REID (PORT ADELAIDE)
PICK 17 - XAVIER LINDSAY (FREMANTLE)
PICK 18 - TAJ HOTTON (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 19 - JACK WHITLOCK (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 20 - JOE BERRY (WESTERN BULLDOGS)
PICK 21 - COOPER HYNES (RICHMOND)
PICK 22 - JONTY FAULL (SYDNEY)
PICK 23 - ALEX DODSON (RICHMOND)
PICK 24 - JESSE DATTOLI (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 25 - SAM MARSHALL (BRISBANE LIONS) *Matching Sydney bid
PICK 26 - CHRISTIAN MORAES (SYDNEY)
PICK 27 - MATT WHITLOCK (RICHMOND)
PICK 28 - Richmond – Harry Oliver (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 29 - Western Bulldogs – Ollie Hannaford (Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country)
PICK 30 - West Coast – Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
PICK 31 - Port Adelaide – Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
PICK 32 - Fremantle – Kayle Gerreyn (West Perth/Western Australia)
PICK 33 - St Kilda – Tom Sims (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
PICK 34 - Hawthorn – Hamish Davis (Claremont/Western Australia)
PICK 35 - Western Bulldogs – Angus Clarke (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 36 - Greater Western Sydney – Logan Smith (GWS Giants Academy/Allies)
PICK 37 - Port Adelaide – Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 38 - St Kilda – Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 39 - Carlton – Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
PICK 40 - Carlton – Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 41 - Essendon – James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country)

Came across this fan ranking with player comparison, Strength & weakness by BennyGan
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I think the general consensus is that there will be one tall forward or swingman option available for us. One of Faull, Simms, Strumpf, Gerreyn, O'Farrell, Barrat etc. are all options with upside and fit the list profile. I personally wouldn't be looking to trade up, but think we would likely have deals in place.

If we trade up it would likely be for a mid/fwd slider.

 

[hawkinoz]

I think the general consensus is that there will be one tall forward or swingman option available for us. One of Faull, Simms, Strumpf, Gerreyn, O'Farrell, Barrat etc. are all options with upside and fit the list profile. I personally wouldn't be looking to trade up, but think we would likely have deals in place.

If we trade up it would likely be for a mid/fwd slider.

True.

When Pick 20 is being called out and draft flows as above, how many teams are trading a F1 to get Tigers pick 21? Or any pick from thereon. Is there talent still left worthy of a F1 trade?

Will teams trade a F1+(pick 25-35) to get one of guys still on board? F1 by itself I can see is a chance if a team doesn't pick with the next 15 picks or won't add their 2nd round pick.

I can imagine F2+(pick 23-35) is possible but surely not F1. Th talent left doesn't command a F1 IMO.

 

[Faraway Hawk]

Let me try and resurrect this thread and hopefully trade discussions can be made here.
At Pick 33 we will have enough options. Surely one of Sims, Gerryn, Mraz, Barrat, Oliver, Davis etc will be available. So any trade deals that includes pick 33 means other side are not losing out much as this draft is quite equal from 15-35 or so.

Hopefully we are able to snag either Dons or Lions top pick. Dons more likely as switchroo is straightforward but they will have enough suitors too.
Herald Sun Mock Draft,
Archive of Day 1

https://archive.is/AfftB

Day 2

https://archive.md/RgzQy

PICK 1 - LEVI ASHCROFT (Brisbane Lions)
PICK 2 - SAM LALOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 3 - ALIX TAURU (NORTH MELBOURNE)
PICK 4 - FINN O'SULLIVAN (CARLTON)
PICK 5 - SID DRAPER (ADELAIDE)
PICK 6 - JAGGA SMITH (MELBOURNE)
PICK 7 - JOSH SMILLIE (RICHMOND)
PICK 8 - HARVEY LANGFORD (ST KILDA)
PICK 9 - LEO LOMBARD (GOLD COAST SUNS) *Matching St Kilda bid
PICK 10 - TOBIE TRAVAGLIA (ST KILDA)
PICK 11 - HARRY ARMSTRONG (MELBOURNE)
PICK 12 - ISAAC KAKO (ESSENDON) *Matching Richmond bid
PICK 13 - LUKE TRAINOR (RICHMOND)
PICK 14 - JOBE SHANAHAN (RICHMOND)
PICK 15 - BO ALLAN (WEST COAST)
PICK 16 - MURPHY REID (PORT ADELAIDE)
PICK 17 - XAVIER LINDSAY (FREMANTLE)
PICK 18 - TAJ HOTTON (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 19 - JACK WHITLOCK (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 20 - JOE BERRY (WESTERN BULLDOGS)
PICK 21 - COOPER HYNES (RICHMOND)
PICK 22 - JONTY FAULL (SYDNEY)
PICK 23 - ALEX DODSON (RICHMOND)
PICK 24 - JESSE DATTOLI (GWS GIANTS)
PICK 25 - SAM MARSHALL (BRISBANE LIONS) *Matching Sydney bid
PICK 26 - CHRISTIAN MORAES (SYDNEY)
PICK 27 - MATT WHITLOCK (RICHMOND)
PICK 28 - Richmond – Harry Oliver (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 29 - Western Bulldogs – Ollie Hannaford (Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country)
PICK 30 - West Coast – Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
PICK 31 - Port Adelaide – Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
PICK 32 - Fremantle – Kayle Gerreyn (West Perth/Western Australia)
PICK 33 - St Kilda – Tom Sims (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
PICK 34 - Hawthorn – Hamish Davis (Claremont/Western Australia)
PICK 35 - Western Bulldogs – Angus Clarke (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 36 - Greater Western Sydney – Logan Smith (GWS Giants Academy/Allies)
PICK 37 - Port Adelaide – Josh Dolan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 38 - St Kilda – Adrian Cole (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
PICK 39 - Carlton – Jasper Alger (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
PICK 40 - Carlton – Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
PICK 41 - Essendon – James Barrat (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country)

Came across this fan ranking with player comparison, Strength & weakness by BennyGan
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I don't care what our draft position is but I want us to draft Malakai Champion just for the name!

 

[tl92]

I think the general consensus is that there will be one tall forward or swingman option available for us. One of Faull, Simms, Strumpf, Gerreyn, O'Farrell, Barrat etc. are all options with upside and fit the list profile. I personally wouldn't be looking to trade up, but think we would likely have deals in place.

If we trade up it would likely be for a mid/fwd slider.

Yeah I like trading our F1 for a pick and keeping our 33. Get two decent players and Anderson as a rookie. Not sure how likely this is but that’s my dream!

 

[hawkinoz]

Yeah I like trading our F1 for a pick and keeping our 33. Get two decent players and Anderson as a rookie. Not sure how likely this is but that’s my dream!

naa, can't do that. That will leave Gunners out of list.

More likely we trade 33 for a F2 and leave it at that if we snagged a 1st rounder. I am hoping we offer either Dogs or Port who have pick 35 & 36 for our Pick 33 if they are willing to give up their F3 for Eagles F4. Would make any F1 deals lot easier.

Or leave Cody of the list.
hence I expect us to go hard for GWS picks & bundle our 33 in a deal if a talent we like is still there. We surely are asking question from pick 10 onwards but unlikely to get bites there.

Let me copy paste a comment from the draft rumours thread of teams likely to gun for the 1st round picks.

PS : Crows don't have list spots, so not likely they are trading F1's get back in. They pick with 4 and then pick Welsh as F/S

I wonder who does have a crack at those Richmond late 1st rounders. In my view:

Prime Candidates
Essendon - Already expressed an interest to trade back in and have 2 1sts. Either would be great for Richmond.
Bulldogs - They tried to get 13 and would back their 1st pick next year to be >10.
Hawthorn - They have Carltons F1 which they'd expect to be >10 and tried to get 13.

Outside Chance
Geelong - They could back their 1st pick next year to be >10 but there's risk there and might want flexibility for trades
St Kilda - A bit risky. Likely trading a 2025 top 10 pick for pick 20+. They already have 7&8. Don't need to be greedy.
Adelaide - Might try as they only have 1 early pick this year but too risky for me.
Kangaroos - There is talk of them wanting a 2nd pick but F1 is too high for Richmond's picks. Reckon they try GWS.

Very Unlikely
Goldcoast & Brisbane - Need F1s for academy bids next year
Fremantle & Westcoast - Will be saving picks for a possible Warner trade
GWS & Sydney - Already have multiple picks late in the 1st round

Impossible
Carlton, Collingwood, Port Adelaide, Melbourne - Don't have F1s

I think Richmond won't have issues getting F1 straight swaps for 18 and 20 providing the right players are there. 22/23 starts to become a bit of a stretch. They may end up trading the 1st 2 and using the other 2. Again it depends who is there.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Yep, keep drafting talent. I think we're ok for defenders , rucks and medium size frwds, but need to still stock up on at least 1 inside mid and a kpf through the next three drafts. I'd rather not trade unless a A grade star is available. Concentrate on FA's and the draft.

Tell you who I would love.

A Ben Cunningham / Tom Liberatore type, one of those mid sized, solid, hard as a rock inside mids. That type of player is not fashionable but they are always valuable (especially in finals).

Often those types don’t go top ten either so should be able to pick one up in the 30s.

 

[tl92]

Tell you who I would love.

A Ben Cunningham / Tom Liberatore type, one of those mid sized, solid, hard as a rock inside mids. That type of player is not fashionable but they are always valuable (especially in finals).

Often those types don’t go top ten either so should be able to pick one up in the 30s.

Could this be Cody Anderson?

 

[Roddy]

Tell you who I would love.

A Ben Cunningham / Tom Liberatore type, one of those mid sized, solid, hard as a rock inside mids. That type of player is not fashionable but they are always valuable (especially in finals).

Often those types don’t go top ten either so should be able to pick one up in the 30s.

We already have one of those. His name is Nuke.

And yes, he was immeasurably valuable in finals...

 

[Blackhawk42]

We already have one of those. His name is Nuke.

And yes, he was immeasurably valuable in finals...

Nah it's definitely Worps.

Newk IS fashionable.

 

[Roddy]

Nah it's definitely Worps.

Newk IS fashionable.

You're right, we have two of those. With slightly varying degrees of fashionability....

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

I noticed Josh Bennetts hasn’t nominated for the draft.
Does this mean a club will take him as a DFA?

Surely he would want another crack at it?