List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

Prediction- Who is delisted this year(not retirements).

  • Berry

  • McCluggage

  • Lyons

  • McCarthy

  • Answerth

  • Lane

  • Prior

  • Madden

  • Lester

  • Joyce

  • Zorko

  • Michael

  • Brain

  • Reville


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How could the Dogs afford to lock up 3m+ in cap space for 3 key forwards? I'd be coming to Darcy with a deal he can't refuse. $1.4m over 6 years.

I'd hope for Allen as a 'possible' but we will probably end up with a Finlayson. It's hard to get the highest paid few from one club to move to another. It happens but it's not that common.
Dogs should be smart about spreading their $$ than obsess over locking it away between Naughton, Jamarra and Darcy. Not to mention renewing Bont.

As much ae I'd love to get Darcy, I have a feeling Swans are going to come to him with a monster contract. Most likely looking to convert Warner to Darcy.
 
Andrew Dunkley wasn’t a sitting club director!
Don't think it'll mean much when Swans put forward a Buddy like contract. Dogs can't match that based on their current signings.
 

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How could the Dogs afford to lock up 3m+ in cap space for 3 key forwards? I'd be coming to Darcy with a deal he can't refuse. $1.4m over 6 years.

I'd hope for Allen as a 'possible' but we will probably end up with a Finlayson. It's hard to get the highest paid few from one club to move to another. It happens but it's not that common.
I just can’t see Darcy moving,well in the short term atleast. I especially don’t see us being able to out price them. Bont, JUH, English and Naughton would all be around that 1mil/year then a few players like Treloar, Lobb, Dale and Richards (recent form. Warrants a decent contract) would be on reasonable cash, then not much after that (Weightman)

Darcy also has the potential to be the best of the lot. If they are worried about 3mil tied up in key forwards, I think they’d first try to move Naughton back or potentially move him on. While his current contract doesn’t seem the best, he would still represent value to other teams starving for a KPF.

On the flip side of Darcy, TDK is the one I think could be shaken loose. Carlton have a lot of cash tied up in Cripps, Walsh, Weitering, McKay and Curnow. Then add in Saad, Williams, Cerra, McGovern, all brought in on decent contracts. With a perceived lack of depth after those players, matching a rivals big contract offer, would limit them greatly in improving this area.

Carlton would also have to assess his worth as a Ruckman, as most would rate him behind both Curnow and McKay as forwards. Other teams, like us, could view him as a genuine forward option, where you’d be more willing to pay that premium for.

I know our recruiting strategy has changed over time, but he fits in well with us previously identifying talent behind stars of the game.
Charlie behind Eddie
Lachie behind Fyfe
Dunkley behind Bont, Treloar, Macrae, Bailey etc.
 

Interesting (albeit now irrelevant) little tidbit:
Yeah he clearly was promised by Freo that they'd take him as a F/S pick at the national draft if he didn't nominate for the MSD. I don't think it's a big miss for us though, we already have plenty of young third tall forwards, and Carr has arms like twigs, he has a huge amount of filling out to do.
 
Mitch Lewis comes back for the last 4 games of the season, first ones a blinder, sits on the fence in another then comes to Brisbane

I've seen this work before

Don't think he'll retire in 2026 after we complete the three-pete though.
 

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Reading between the lines, it'll be Mitch Lewis.
he will be contracted beyond next year though right? I personally thought it would be him as the most likely of likely outcomes but then I find it hard to think he would leave the Hawks who are playing exciting football and certainly will be in that premiership window over the next 5-8 years. hard to see how anyone would leave that environment unless it's just down to money.

edit: contracted to end of 2026. So we would need to trade for a contracted key forward. can't see how we can have the draft capital to get it done. unless he does another knee...
 
he will be contracted beyond next year though right? I personally thought it would be him as the most likely of likely outcomes but then I find it hard to think he would leave the Hawks who are playing exciting football and certainly will be in that premiership window over the next 5-8 years. hard to see how anyone would leave that environment unless it's just down to money.

edit: contracted to end of 2026. So we would need to trade for a contracted key forward. can't see how we can have the draft capital to get it done. unless he does another knee...
I honestly don't think he's shown much to be considered the great pick up that Barrett and Fish are talking about
 
I’ve heard from a couple of people claiming to have loose connections to him and the club, that it’s Oscar Allen.

I personally would be shocked, but if he hasn’t signed by mid year, I might start to believe it’s a possibility.

Interesting that he hasn’t signed yet, local kid, skipper.. surely it should just be a formality as Harris would be with us?
 
Reading between the lines, it'll be Mitch Lewis.

I’ve heard from a couple of people claiming to have loose connections to him and the club, that it’s Oscar Allen.

I personally would be shocked, but if he hasn’t signed by mid year, I might start to believe it’s a possibility.

Interesting that he hasn’t signed yet, local kid, skipper.. surely it should just be a formality as Harris would be with us?

Oscar Allen and Mitch Lewis will be a formidable combo.
 
I’ve heard from a couple of people claiming to have loose connections to him and the club, that it’s Oscar Allen.

I personally would be shocked, but if he hasn’t signed by mid year, I might start to believe it’s a possibility.

Interesting that he hasn’t signed yet, local kid, skipper.. surely it should just be a formality as Harris would be with us?
This is the first time I have seen a report of knowledge about a player.

Everything else has been pure speculation, including my posts.

Plus you claim to have heard it from a couple of people with connections.

Very interesting.

In WA they work in a fish bowl and it's not for everyone.
 
Oscar Allen would cost an arm and a leg. Clubs don't give up their captains for nothing (serious issues like Carey aside).

Interestingly, Allen and Lewis are very similar for games played/goals kicked (Lewis averages 1.8, Allen 1.5). Given that Lewis would presumably require less outlay, I'd be happy enough if it were to be him.
 
Oscar Allen would cost an arm and a leg. Clubs don't give up their captains for nothing (serious issues like Carey aside).

Interestingly, Allen and Lewis are very similar for games played/goals kicked (Lewis averages 1.8, Allen 1.5). Given that Lewis would presumably require less outlay, I'd be happy enough if it were to be him.

Allen is a free agent. Hypothetically, they finish last next year. Pick 2 for Allen would be a pretty bloody good result for them considering he is 26 next year and unlikely to be around for their next tilt at success. Particularly with the expansion of Tassy diluting a few drafts.

I don’t think it’s as unlikely as some might think
 
Allen is a free agent. Hypothetically, they finish last next year. Pick 2 for Allen would be a pretty bloody good result for them considering he is 26 next year and unlikely to be around for their next tilt at success. Particularly with the expansion of Tassy diluting a few drafts.

I don’t think it’s as unlikely as some might think
We like our free agents too. Bump the pay up to the level they get a second top 5 pick and they'll be happy too.

Only problem is they'll struggle to re-sign Harley if they keep letting leaders go. Barass (VC) this year and Allen next year would paint a bleak picture.
 
We like our free agents too. Bump the pay up to the level they get a second top 5 pick and they'll be happy too.

Only problem is they'll struggle to re-sign Harley if they keep letting leaders go. Barass (VC) this year and Allen next year would paint a bleak picture.
Mmm...didn't Yeo go to the Eagles when we were at our lowest ebb during the GH5 era.
 
Allen is a free agent. Hypothetically, they finish last next year. Pick 2 for Allen would be a pretty bloody good result for them considering he is 26 next year and unlikely to be around for their next tilt at success. Particularly with the expansion of Tassy diluting a few drafts.

I don’t think it’s as unlikely as some might think
But he's a Restricted Free Agent, so they can match if they want to keep him. And their plan seems to be getting (and keeping) good veterans in to ensure Harley Reid doesn't decide to leave, which is the only logic I can attribute to them trading out of pick 3 in order to get Liam Baker. So I think they'd actually prefer to match him than get pick 2 next year. And they probably won't finish last anyway because Richmond will be worse.
 

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