List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Contract Status

Name Final Year Years Service* Status Angus Hastie 2025 2 Unknown Angus McLennan 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Anthony Caminiti 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Arie Schoenmaker 2025 2 Unknown Ben Paton 2024 7 Non-Free Agent Brad Crouch 2025 5 Non-Free Agent Bradley Hill 2027 8 Restricted Free Agent Callum Wilkie 2027 9 Restricted Free Agent Cooper Sharman 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Daniel Butler 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Darcy Wilson 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Dougal Howard 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Hugo Garcia 2025 2 Unknown Hunter Clark 2025 8 Restricted Free Agent Isaac Keeler 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Jack Hayes 2024 3 Non-Free Agent Jack Higgins 2027 7 Non-Free Agent Jack Sinclair 2027 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Jack Steele 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent James Van Es 2024 2 DELISTED Jimmy Webster 2024 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Josh Battle 2024 8 UFA - leaving for Hawthorn Lance Collard 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Liam Henry 2027 4 Non-Free Agent Liam O'Connell 2025 2 Unknown Liam Stocker 2024 2 Unrestricted Free Agent Marcus Windhager 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Mason Wood 2024 4 UFA + 3 years (2027) Mattaes Phillipou 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Matthew Allison 2024 4 DELISTED Max Hall 2025 2 Non-Free Agent Max Heath 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Max King 2026 8 Restricted Free Agent Mitchito Owens 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Olli Hotton 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Paddy Dow 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Riley Bonner 2024 1 DELISTED Rowan Marshall 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent Ryan Byrnes 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Sebastian Ross 2024 13 DELISTED Tim Membrey 2024 10 Unrestricted Free Agent Tom Campbell 2024 3 DELISTED Zaine Cordy 2025 3 Non-Free Agent Zak Jones 2024 5 Non-Free Agent * Years service at end of contract.

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[Sully111]

Ross is brutal lol

Plays Bonner constantly... sees something he doesn't like and subs him off mid way through a game, then it's bye bye Riley.

 

[MightySaint]

Jacob Konstanty will be a saint

Guesswork or source? He's certainly the type of player Ross would love

 

[Cleanupsoup]

To be honest that whole draft is looking like a miss.

Pou, Hammer and Stocker

With Keeler, McLennan and Hotton as unknowns

Not a bad recruitment haul, especially when compared to 2020, where mason wood is the only remaining recruit

 

[CaptainRisky]

To be honest that whole draft is looking like a miss.

Have you given up on Keeler ?

 

[D2D3]

Was Bonner no good in the second half of the season? Seemed to be in your best players alot of the first half of the season?

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Finds plenty of it but his decision making is deplorable

 

[akaifu]

Ah , thanks for that

Next time don’t get so worked up over nothing<3

 

[CaptainRisky]

For anyone having a bad day and needs a laugh, take a look at the nuffers on here ,

Thank christ they have nothing to do with the club wanting to look at every player that has been delisted

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[kernelT]

You don't actually want the actual answers, believe me.

Consider the split a safe space for discussion as it's moderation and we don't just give points, card people and delete posts, part of that is also moderating the discourse.

Change can be good.

Trade discussion is list management, you can't trade a player in without moving a current player off the list.

Do you split a conversation if poster A mentions a trade target and poster B replies about a current player on the list?

Over-moderating IMO.

 

[kernelT]

Ross is brutal lol

Plays Bonner constantly... sees something he doesn't like and subs him off mid way through a game, then it's bye bye Riley.

Also begs the question why he was still getting selected in round 21, the season was over in April.

Bonner 19 games
Hastie 5
Arie 4
McLennan 2
Hall 0
Hotton 0
O'Connell 0

Does that split help us going forward?

 

[Sully111]

Also begs the question why he was still getting selected in round 21, the season was over in April.

Bonner 19 games
Hastie 5
Arie 4
McLennan 2
Hall 0
Hotton 0
O'Connell 0

Does that split help us going forward?

Maybe Ross simply changed his mind with Bonner

 

[kernelT]

Maybe Ross simply changed his mind with Bonner

Yeah maybe but with Howard, Wilkie, Battle, Webster, Sinclair locked into the backline it would have been nice to see a few more games into our young defenders instead of 19 to Bonner and then delist him.

 

[Sully111]

Yeah maybe but with Howard, Wilkie, Battle, Webster, Sinclair locked into the backline it would have been nice to see a few more games into our young defenders instead of 19 to Bonner and then delist him.

I agree but people do change their minds

Why just this morning I walked into my Harem and caused a bit of chaos. I'd promised Samantha a morning of sully-lovin' but I noticed Belinda had cut her hair. She had bangs and with her eye makeup she had this Egyptian goddess thing going on. As I took Belinda by the hand and lead her away, Samantha screamed "but you promised". I said "yeah chill"... people change their minds" (I don't think she heard me over her weeping though.)

I'm guessing a very similar thing happened between Ross and Riley.... metaphorically speaking.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Listing and playing Bonner was a shocking decision from the outset. Why we continually think we are going to get a player out of other clubs rubbish astounds me. Bonner was delisted from Port because he plays bruise free footy, he is allergic to body contact. For SOS and RTB to think he was taking us forward was a disgraceful decision IMO.

 

[Mat Mann]

Could we have a pinned list of OOC players in this that gets updated list changes / contracts?
I like having the separate thread for this. it's easier to follow.

in the pinned post at the top is a full list of player status

 

[gubby88]

Listing and playing Bonner was a shocking decision from the outset. Why we continually think we are going to get a player out of other clubs rubbish astounds me. Bonner was delisted from Port because he plays bruise free footy, he is allergic to body contact. For SOS and RTB to think he was taking us forward was a disgraceful decision IMO.

it wasn't really, it allowed 12 months cover and back up to support the youth coming through.

ever team gets delisted players from other teams

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[The Jack]

Too many threads. Cant we just have a Draft thread and a Trade thread.

Having to scroll through 5 to make sure I'm not missing anything is just nuts!

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I agree but people do change their minds

Why just this morning I walked into my Harem and caused a bit of chaos. I'd promised Samantha a morning of sully-lovin' but I noticed Belinda had cut her hair. She had bangs and with her eye makeup she had this Egyptian goddess thing going on. As I took Belinda by the hand and lead her away, Samantha screamed "but you promised". I said "yeah chill"... people change their minds" (I don't think she heard me over her weeping though.)

I'm guessing a very similar thing happened between Ross and Riley.... metaphorically speaking.

 

[SteeleSaints]

it wasn't really, it allowed 12 months cover and back up to support the youth coming through.

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When you look at who was taken in the rookie draft , SSP and MSD it was very ordinary decision.

When you are developing a young list a player like Bonner was nothing other than a list clogger.

 

[beside the seaside]

Have you given up on Keeler ?

Would love him to make it but I don't reckon it's looking good. Just the fact that he hasn't debuted when so many have. If he gets another year he'll have to improve massively.

 

[kernelT]

I agree but people do change their minds

Why just this morning I walked into my Harem and caused a bit of chaos. I'd promised Samantha a morning of sully-lovin' but I noticed Belinda had cut her hair. She had bangs and with her eye makeup she had this Egyptian goddess thing going on. As I took Belinda by the hand and lead her away, Samantha screamed "but you promised". I said "yeah chill"... people change their minds" (I don't think she heard me over her weeping though.)

I'm guessing a very similar thing happened between Ross and Riley.... metaphorically speaking.

Thankless task isn't it?

 

[Oh When the Saints]

Listing and playing Bonner was a shocking decision from the outset. Why we continually think we are going to get a player out of other clubs rubbish astounds me. Bonner was delisted from Port because he plays bruise free footy, he is allergic to body contact. For SOS and RTB to think he was taking us forward was a disgraceful decision IMO.

The thinking was to free up Sinclair to play full time midfield given how weak we are in the middle. It was worth a crack. The problem is that Sinclair is only good for a 5 min burst in the middle and we lost too much by taking him off HB permanently. And Bonner's turnovers just didn't give us the same output.

I think the club realised that Sinclair is a HBF and we just need to do the hard yards to build out the midfield properly.

 

[SteeleSaints]

The thinking was to free up Sinclair to play full time midfield given how weak we are in the middle. It was worth a crack. The problem is that Sinclair is only good for a 5 min burst in the middle and we lost too much by taking him off HB permanently. And Bonner's turnovers just didn't give us the same output.

I think the club realised that Sinclair is a HBF and we just need to do the hard yards to build out the midfield properly.

We had 10 kids who could have played the role and when you look who was over looked its another wasted year.

 

[gubby88]

reporters saying Houston has contacted saints on playong here next year

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[kernelT]

reporters saying Houston has contacted saints on playong here next year

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Sounds like managers fattening up the numbers

 

[Klaatu]

Would love him to make it but I don't reckon it's looking good. Just the fact that he hasn't debuted when so many have. If he gets another year he'll have to improve massively.

2 meter bean pole he will need time, he will be fine