List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[Sully111]

Thankless task isn't it?

Bro... I just continue on my selfless path. I'm just like the Dalai Lama... except with a harem.

 

[kernelT]

Bro... I just continue on my selfless path. I'm just like the Dalai Lama... except with a harem.

That's how I always pictured you, a Hugh Hefner type in a Tibetan robe…

 

[Klaatu]

Seb, tapped on the shoulder well done Seb

 

[kernelT]

Seb, tapped on the shoulder well done Seb

delisted?

 

[Sibaspud]

delisted?

Thank you, Seb: Two-time Best & Fairest concludes Saints chapter

Two-time Best & Fairest and long-serving leader Seb Ross’ time at St Kilda has come to a close, with the club informing the 31-year-old he will not be offered a contract for the 2025 season.

www.saints.com.au

 

[_Maximus_12]

Can we get another thread for Free Agency to discuss Membrey and Battle FA decisions. Ta

 

[westernsainter]

Seb deserved a send off. Two time B&F and a very consistent player in some shit years. It's not the biggest deal but I don't love how we've handled this if I'm honest.

 

[Klaatu]

Seb deserved a send off. Two time B&F and a very consistent player in some shit years. It's not the biggest deal but I don't love how we've handled this if I'm honest.

Was injured past 6 weeks

 

[ScrappyDo]

Listing and playing Bonner was a shocking decision from the outset. Why we continually think we are going to get a player out of other clubs rubbish astounds me. Bonner was delisted from Port because he plays bruise free footy, he is allergic to body contact. For SOS and RTB to think he was taking us forward was a disgraceful decision IMO.

Jebus, talk about overreacting. We could hardly field a team at one point and he was a fit body. It's most likely the case that Bonner was given every chance to extend his career but simply couldn't change his nature. RTB actually gave players plenty of chances, Bonner getting more than enough.
I'm happy to see the back of him but his recruitment was entirely justifiable.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Seb deserved a send off. Two time B&F and a very consistent player in some shit years. It's not the biggest deal but I don't love how we've handled this if I'm honest.

Agree, but he's been injured. Tiz life.

 

[Saintbloke]

Sad to see Seb go, but there comes a time, and he has given us great service.

 

[Nutsngum]

Congratulations on a great career Seb. He's unfortunately slown down a lot the last coupld of years but there was a genuine couple of years where he was a very good and consistent midfielder. Averaged like 30 touches a week for those two BnF years.

I doubt he gets picked up anywhere else. Just cant impact like he used to.

 

[kernelT]

Can we get another thread for Free Agency to discuss Membrey and Battle FA decisions. Ta

Also one for each category of rookie might be helpful.

 

[Teflon]

Also begs the question why he was still getting selected in round 21, the season was over in April.

Bonner 19 games
Hastie 5
Arie 4
McLennan 2
Hall 0
Hotton 0
O'Connell 0

Does that split help us going forward?

Sometimes it takes longer to find out that’s ok we are sure he’s a no

 

[Teflon]

Listing and playing Bonner was a shocking decision from the outset. Why we continually think we are going to get a player out of other clubs rubbish astounds me. Bonner was delisted from Port because he plays bruise free footy, he is allergic to body contact. For SOS and RTB to think he was taking us forward was a disgraceful decision IMO.

Life’s far easier in hindsight….

 

[Sully111]

Where'd my damn thread go?

#RespectThePantsless

 

[Saint Kidding]

Listing and playing Bonner was a shocking decision from the outset. Why we continually think we are going to get a player out of other clubs rubbish astounds me. Bonner was delisted from Port because he plays bruise free footy, he is allergic to body contact. For SOS and RTB to think he was taking us forward was a disgraceful decision IMO.

Mason Wood springs to mind.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Seb deserved a send off. Two time B&F and a very consistent player in some shit years. It's not the biggest deal but I don't love how we've handled this if I'm honest.

It would have been nice but he's been injured. We couldn't have given him a game unless he was just going to sit on the bench the whole match

 

[The Punter]

Don't know where else to put this...

 

[Diehard Saint]

Speculative link to Tomlinson:

New contender for All-Aus star; third Tiger tells club he’s leaving, Dee plots exit — Trade Whispers

New contender for All-Aus star; third Tiger tells club he’s leaving, Dee plots exit — Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

The article posted by Mat Mann regarding Shiel says the club is taking a long term approach to list build.
So how does that fit with taking Tomlinson? Cheap stopgap?

 

[Hubnester]

The article posted by Mat Mann regarding Shiel says the club is taking a long term approach to list build.
So how does that fit with taking Tomlinson? Cheap stopgap?

Can only assume so. Not sure I love it but if he's a free hit and still has some footy left in him, no harm I guess.

 

[Sibaspud]

Can only assume so. Not sure I love it but if he's a free hit and still has some footy left in him, no harm I guess.

Aren't we linked nearly every year with Tomlinson...since back in the Richo days. I thought it was a Richo thing and that speculation about us would end once he joined up with Richo at Melbourne...evidently not.

 

[Hubnester]

Aren't we linked nearly every year with Tomlinson...since back in the Richo days. I thought it was a Richo thing and that speculation about us would end once he joined up with Richo at Melbourne...evidently not.

Yeah seems to be a recurring thing haha. Reckon I wouldn't know the bloke existed if not for the annual trade period link, don't think I've ever seen or heard of him outside of that context...

 

[SteeleSaints]

Seb deserved a send off. Two time B&F and a very consistent player in some shit years. It's not the biggest deal but I don't love how we've handled this if I'm honest.

Its a cut throat industry, but as a club we need to find a way to do this better. If we want loyalty from players to remain during their peak years, we need within reason to let them go out and retire on their own terms. Giving him another year to work with the kids in the VFL and then persuade him to retire would have been much more reasonable I would have thought. Although he may think he has a number of years left who knows?

SOS is quickly turning people against himself as list manager. Heck he was looking for sentiment for his own kids when they were on the Carlton list and then he treats a long term club servant like this - hypercrit.

 

[Hubnester]

I don't think it's really helpful to criticise the club or individuals based on our own speculation. I don't believe we have any indication of how this played out, or what conversations were or weren't held throughout the year.