List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[Joffaboy]

It’s a really sad time of year I think. Saying goodbye to players we all at some stage had so much faith and hope in. Most of their afl dreams done and dusted. One or two may be lucky enough to get the second or third chance.
At least they spent time on a list. Have to be happy and proud of that.

Would not be likely to see any of the four on another AFL list.

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[Coconut_twirl]

There will almost definitely be more.

I’d say there will be another 2-3 more delisting. Seb and Paton might be nervous. Membrey and Hayes could be traded for 4th rounders.

 

[geelong sajnt]

Saints farewell four following list changes

St Kilda Football Club has informed Tom Campbell, Riley Bonner, Matthew Allison and James Van Es they will not be offered contracts for the 2025 season.

www.saints.com.au

Thought TC and Van Es may have gone around again

Brutal exit interviews. They must have some plans for our ruck and defenders as that was a suprise.

 

[Yawkey way]

Can't believe he's lasted this long on a list. Very clear early on in his career that he simply wasn't up to it. Coasted on his "Pick 2" status for years, not because of him so much, but due to other clubs delusions and being blinded by their own headlights.
He might go okay in the country leagues.

Old fashioned full forward lead into space and a nice kick for goal. Absolutely nothing else to his game, he’s not strong overhead for a man of that size and he was tried in defence.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Man, thought Van Es was a prospect early on, showed a bit of mongrel in the VFL. That sucks. Tom Campbell will probably get picked up by another club for a year or 2 of ruck depth. Guys a world beater in the 2's.

Tom Campbell will not get picked up by another AFL club.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

There will be more delistings but we must wait to see what our free agents plan on doing first.

 

[Jayman15]

I know it’s an old (6 months) SEN interview with Simon Dalrymple but gives an insight into his philosophy with drafting- no longer best player but someone who fits the coach’s game style.

 

[akaifu]

Allison -> Kuek
Bonner -> draft
TC -> Soldo/McAndrew
JVE -> Cole

 

[HeavenlySources]

I know it’s an old (6 months) SEN interview with Simon Dalrymple but gives an insight into his philosophy with drafting- no longer best player but someone who fits the coach’s game style.

Yes but I think inside the top 10 and especially top 5 its a bit different. Those players are who the game plan is built around.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

A pick 31 already delisted is such poor drafting from us

We never even got a chance to see if it was good drafting or not.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

We never even got a chance to see if it was good drafting or not.

He played VFL football. Was no where near it

 

[kernelT]

Bonner surprisingly stiff, copped it from the fans but did more good than bad.

I guess he would only keep Ari & Hastie out of the side so don't mind it.

InB4 we take a small back flanker with our first, but he might roll through the mids.

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

We've really struggled to nail that mid to late draft KPD the last 6 years

Clavarino
Adams
JVE

Hoping we don't add Ari or Keeler to that list anytime soon.

Rest aren't too surprising. Wonder how many more to come.

Glad we gave TC a game.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Harsh on JVE but l guess they think his ankle must be stuffed, otherwise l can't see any logic in it.
The rest is pretty standard but you'd hope a replacement ruckman is already on the way.

 

[MightySaint]

Absolutely stunned by JVE being delisted. Saw him twice in the VFL and he looked like there was a tonne to work with. Huge, aggressive, athletic. As suggested, the ankle must be absolutely stuffed.

 

[kernelT]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Contract Status

Name Final Year Years Service* Status Angus Hastie 2025 2 Unknown Angus McLennan 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Anthony Caminiti 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Arie Schoenmaker 2025 2 Unknown Ben Paton 2024 7 Non-Free Agent Brad Crouch 2025 5 Non-Free Agent Bradley Hill 2027 8 Restricted Free Agent Callum Wilkie 2027 9 Restricted Free Agent Cooper Sharman 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Daniel Butler 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Darcy Wilson 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Dougal Howard 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Hugo Garcia 2025 2 Unknown Hunter Clark 2025 8 Restricted Free Agent Isaac Keeler 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Jack Hayes 2024 3 Non-Free Agent Jack Higgins 2027 7 Non-Free Agent Jack Sinclair 2027 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Jack Steele 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent James Van Es 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Jimmy Webster 2024 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Josh Battle 2024 8 Unrestricted Free Agent Lance Collard 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Liam Henry 2027 4 Non-Free Agent Liam O'Connell 2025 2 Unknown Liam Stocker 2024 2 Unrestricted Free Agent Marcus Windhager 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Mason Wood 2024 4 Unrestricted Free Agent Mattaes Phillipou 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Matthew Allison 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Max Hall 2025 2 Non-Free Agent Max Heath 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Max King 2026 8 Restricted Free Agent Mitchito Owens 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Olli Hotton 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Paddy Dow 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Riley Bonner 2024 1 Unrestricted Free Agent Rowan Marshall 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent Ryan Byrnes 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Sebastian Ross 2024 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Tim Membrey 2024 10 Unrestricted Free Agent Tom Campbell 2024 3 Unrestricted Free Agent Zaine Cordy 2025 3 Non-Free Agent Zak Jones 2024 5 Non-Free Agent * Years service at end of contract.

Not having a crack at all, but I reckon you might be making more work for yourself than you'll want by trying to split list management and trade discussions.

 

[Mat Mann]

Not having a crack at all, but I reckon you might be making more work for yourself than you'll want by trying to split list management and trade discussions.

possibly, we'll see how it goes

 

[DougalHoward]

It's easier just to scroll through one thread

 

[Mat Mann]

we can do that, if that whats wanted

 

[malevu]

I don't have any issue with any of those delistings but I'd imagine there's more significant decisions to come that might cause a melt or two. Of the lesser lights Hayes is one I'd like us to give one more year to.

 

[The Boar]

JVE out, Cole in.
JVE's ankle must be shagged

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[MightySaint]

Any news if Keeler has been signed up beyond this year?

 

[Nutsngum]

I get a feeling that JVE's last ankle surgery was to stabilize it for general life.. not for elite sports. Probably a forced retirement really. Feel for the kid.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I don't have any issue with any of those delistings but I'd imagine there's more significant decisions to come that might cause a melt or two. Of the lesser lights Hayes is one I'd like us to give one more year to.

I think those 4 are the ones with zero possible trade value or progression.
I wouldn't expect Hayes survives but we may be able to get a 4th round pick for him