List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Big Delut]

I heard Russell on Dyl and friends (I think). Right at the end of interview AR was asked to nominate players who, he thought, were firing in the preseason and he mentioned Mots and Harry L.

That's definitely in line with what I saw before the toe injury. He looked as lean as I'd seen him and certainly more dynamic. It's such a shame his year has ended up being so disappointing

 

[Arr0w]

I heard Russell on Dyl and friends (I think). Right at the end of interview AR was asked to nominate players who, he thought, were firing in the preseason and he mentioned Mots and Harry L.

I should have been clearer, I meant buy in

 

[Robbo's my hero]

I should have been clearer, I meant buy in

Mots could be a rare talent. I hope he sees the value of hard work to maximise his talent.

 

[Wickzki]

This will be more evident once we see how he goes with the Russell replacement...

Hopefully there's a better relationship there, someone that can better motivate and keep on the same page as him.

These things can turn around quite quickly and doesn't necessarily equate to the ability or lack thereof of the professional. I.e. I'd suspect some players to really take to the new guy and go from strength to strength while others may be change resistant.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I heard Russell on Dyl and friends (I think). Right at the end of interview AR was asked to nominate players who, he thought, were firing in the preseason and he mentioned Mots and Harry L.

I reckon it depends on the definition of 'firing'. I attended most of open sessions in pre season, and what I saw was a player who's got wonderful skills and goal sense. He was thrust into the centre bounces at times during match sim, and his dash and skill to weave out of traffic was a bit of an eye opener.

However, that doesn't necessarily mean that his fitness and work rate are up to standard. Injuries have no doubt played a part, but at no time during the season has he looked match fit. And his work rate is well below standard imo.

I'm hoping like **** he can get it all together because he has the natural skills to become a top line AFL footballer....just not convinced he has the commitment right now.

 

[Robbo's my hero]

I reckon it depends on the definition of 'firing'. I attended most of open sessions in pre season, and what I saw was a player who's got wonderful skills and goal sense. He was thrust into the centre bounces at times during match sim, and his dash and skill to weave out of traffic was a bit of an eye opener.

However, that doesn't necessarily mean that his fitness and work rate are up to standard. Injuries have no doubt played a part, but at no time during the season has he looked match fit. And his work rate is well below standard imo.

I'm hoping like **** he can get it all together because he has the natural skills to become a top line AFL footballer....just not convinced he has the commitment right now.

You should do a podcast Bamboo. I could be your clueless assistant Wilbur.

 

[Soapy V]

I heard Russell on Dyl and friends (I think). Right at the end of interview AR was asked to nominate players who, he thought, were firing in the preseason and he mentioned Mots and Harry L.

I saw him during pre season and he was flying. Looked great. Very disappointed when he got injured.

Gut feel is he didn't handle injury to well after doing everything right to be ready

TBF how many of our Hamstring injuries have recovered and played well when they came back? Cerra Saad Williams Motlop have all seemed to struggle to get near their best

 

[Soapy V]

I reckon it depends on the definition of 'firing'. I attended most of open sessions in pre season, and what I saw was a player who's got wonderful skills and goal sense. He was thrust into the centre bounces at times during match sim, and his dash and skill to weave out of traffic was a bit of an eye opener.

However, that doesn't necessarily mean that his fitness and work rate are up to standard. Injuries have no doubt played a part, but at no time during the season has he looked match fit. And his work rate is well below standard imo.

I'm hoping like **** he can get it all together because he has the natural skills to become a top line AFL footballer....just not convinced he has the commitment right now.

100%

 

[mjonc43]

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" comes to mind when I look at Motlop.

A high performance manager can create a program that will get you to where you should be but if you're not prepared to put in the work it's not going to magically happen for you.

Motlop was flying in the preseason, then bang, soft tissue injury.. Hasn't recovered.

 

[Coops93]

Motlop was flying in the preseason, then bang, soft tissue injury.. Hasn't recovered.

To be frank, soft tissue injuries and his fitness level can be put down to professionalism. It's fairly well known that preparation is key when it comes to soft tissue injuries, and given how his lingered then his apparent lack of fitness on his return tells me his professionalism wasn't up to scratch.

 

[Diamond Jim 007]

Big chance a small high winning numbers Bulldog will be available next year. Currently out of favour most of year at kennel.
WIth Austin's form picking up Western Bulldogs players. Coming to Carlton next year a real chance.
You have to work out is it ;
CD or JM.
Surely someone else knows the gossip.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Big chance a small high winning numbers Bulldog will be available next year. Currently out of favour most of year at kennel.
WIth Austin's form picking up Western Bulldogs players. Coming to Carlton next year a real chance.
You have to work out is it ;
CD or JM.
Surely someone else knows the gossip.

Would prefer the flying mullet (even despite his off field indiscretions and the fact that he comes across as a bit of a flog).

 

[teagueyubeauty]

To be frank, soft tissue injuries and his fitness level can be put down to professionalism. It's fairly well known that preparation is key when it comes to soft tissue injuries, and given how his lingered then his apparent lack of fitness on his return tells me his professionalism wasn't up to scratch.

So what you’re saying is that for a very large chunk of the list we have a lot of players that are lacking professionalism year after year after year?


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[teagueyubeauty]

Would prefer the flying mullet (even despite his off field indiscretions and the fact that he comes across as a bit of a flog).

From a midfield perspective he’s exactly what we need…bet the cats get him for a steal


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[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

I am probably in the minority here but Fantasia does one thing that I love, he lowers his eyes when kicking into the F50 rather than bombing away like so many others.
He also offers smarts. However, he is not producing goals like I expected him to do.

Berry can take his spot…..class

 

[katmanblue]

Yes, I get that, although it seems Lucas will be either a late pick or Rookie draft selection. But it would make LM easier if it's 2 draftees, plus Ben C, plus Boyd upgrade, with Lucas as Rookie... and that's why I wondered if other clubs would bid on Lucas with a late pick to mess with our LM strategy...

Won't matter because we are overstocked for rookies. Need to make space to get him in there. Effectively the same thing for Salary cap considerations. The name in the rookie spot doesn't really matter. Just the number of rookies.

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[dangertroy]

Also re: VFL form, I think he's one of those guys that plays better at AFL than VFL, like Moir.

Beware the incredibly small sample size there… Moir has played two quarters of football, coming on with fresh legs late in the game each time. I agree he’s got something there, but let’s wait until he’s playing full matches…

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Beware the incredibly small sample size there… Moir has played two quarters of football, coming on with fresh legs late in the game each time. I agree he’s got something there, but let’s wait until he’s playing full matches…

Party pooper

 

[BluStreak]

Berry can take his spot…..class

if drafted, yes.

 

[Opium]

Liam McMahon won our reserves best and fairest in a side that finished bottom 3.
Fair effort and deserves another chance in the AFL. Interesting he's listed as 198cm.

McMahon wins VFL Best and Fairest

The Carlton Reserves have crowned their award winners for season 2024.

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[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Will White 3rd B&F, been impressive this year, clever & natural creative goal kicking small forward, great effort…

 

[TENACIOUS]

And, to add to the above, below are next year's OOC players that will probably also factor somewhat into this year's calculations. It'll be interesting working out who will be staying or going...

2025
1. Jack Silvagni
3. Jesse Motlop
5. Adam Cerra
7. Matthew Kennedy
11. Mitch McGovern
12. Tom De Koning
14. Orazio Fantasia
15. Sam Docherty
17. Brodie Kemp
23. Jacob Weitering
24. Nic Newman
29. George Hewett (RFA)
31. Harry Lemmey
34. Rob Monahan (International Rookie Cat B)
35. Billy Wilson
36. Cooper Lord - MSD (Rookie)
39. Alex Cincotta (Pre-season SSP 2023)
42. Adam Saad

Locks
De Koning, Kemp, Weitering & Saad

Trade Bait (likely re-sign)
Cerra, Motlop, Kennedy & Hewett

Assess (End of Year)
Silvagni, McGovern, Fantasia, Docherty, Lemmey, Monahan, Wilson, Lord & Cincotta.

With Petracca out of the picture, I’d like us to look at Davies (GC), Aleer (GWS), Rosa (GC), Garcia (WB)

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Will White 3rd B&F, been impressive this year, clever & natural creative goal kicking small forward, great effort…

Really liked what I saw of him this year. Lively and a natural goal kicker.

Would be surprised if he doesn't end up on an AFL list one day if he continues on his trajectory

 

[Coops93]

So what you’re saying is that for a very large chunk of the list we have a lot of players that are lacking professionalism year after year after year?


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Soft tissue hasn't really been an issue until this year - aside from the usual suspects, which is who I'm referring mostly to.

In years gone by we've been brutally unlucky with impact injuries. This is the first time we've had a spate of soft tissue so questioning the professionalism of the broader group is unfair, but those repeat offenders mostly have had criticisms in the past of it, for sure.

 

[carlton_99]

Pair of Blues more likely than not to request trades this off-season

“He looks like he wants to get out of Carlton and could request a trade.”

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