List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Blue By Blood]

If true, then they may lose out in gaining a maximum deal Melbourne

Yeah look there is no way we let go one of our two Coleman medallists to get a 28 year old midfielder. That just simply won’t happen. Not in any world. Key position players are so much harder to get as all clubs know.

Charlie, Harry, Weitering, Cripps, Walsh, TDK are off limits. We want to improve the team while we are in a premiership window, not reduce it. If Melbourne don’t want picks and maybe a player like Cerra (though I’d be hesitant to part with him given his age and scope) then we sit back and either bow out of the race for him or we wait and see how untenable that situation has become. If he can no longer front the playing group then there’s no way he can return to them
amicably next year. That hurts their trading power despite his contract status. Bottom line is if the trade requires any of the 6 untouchables above we abort and move on to other targets that improve us.

 

[branedotorg]

So if we are going for a mature kpp who would you take out of Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

or Sam Day

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Sam Day

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.6

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

3.6

1star

HB

4.4

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.9

4star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.2

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

0.2

3star

 

[Stamos]

Give up Harry before Charlie

Don’t give up either. It would be utterly moronic.

 

[LemmingMaster]

I mean if you want a explosive mid just draft sam lalor

Not sure he will be there with pick 18.

 

[no fate]

Petracca wants out, and a star Blue could unlock a trade

Despite guarantees from Melbourne that Petracca would not be traded, the Norm Smith medallist wants to play for a rival club.

www.theage.com.au

https://archive.md/KkYmz

Sounds like a Demons' fantasy

We should exploit this. He wants out and is prepared to come to Carlton. I'd still go with Cerra and this year's first as the offer. That saves face for the dees, Cerra is very good at his best and they could strike gold with the first. If they don't bite tell them the first is coming off the table as we believe we'll get a gun with that.

Of course they can get stuffed with the McKay/Curnow ask, that's the biggest ambit claim of all time. Wish them good luck managing another star and former (to all teammates) role model whose heart isn't in it. Not only that but felt strongly enough to tell his teammates he wants out, wow. Hard to remediate.

All this is obviously based on our doctor thinking he's going to be OK, not broken.

Your move, dees. Choose wisely.

 

[no fate]

Cody Walker will be just as good as Cripps.
The team is a changing dynamic, use the draft and trade sensibly, everything doesn't hinge on 1 or 2 players.

Wait, what? Jeez I hope you are right Weirdo as you've named one of the all time great Carlton stars here. And yes I am old enough to know.

 

[YeoShuey]

We’d be losing out if we traded Cerra for Petracca. Just no.

Don’t want him.

 

[The Sultan]

We’d be losing out if we traded Cerra for Petracca. Just no.

Don’t want him.

Cerra’s It getting it done

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Cerra’s It getting it done

They'd want Harry and the best steak knifes we have available? We'd be expletive mad!

 

[no fate]

They'd want Harry and the best steak knifes we have available? We'd be expletive mad!

Who cares what they'd want? Sure they didn't want Petracca to tell all his teammates he's out. Didn't stop it from happening though.

 

[TimeFor17]

The draft is wildly overrated gamble that I hope we never embark on again.

You’ve got to be really shit for a really long time to accumulate enough players for 1/3 of them to turn into good footballers.

And then there’s no guarantee that it amounts to anything.

I’d rather we adopt the Geelong approach, never bother with early picks, endlessly top up with mature age talent, and be competitive every year.

Seems a lot more enjoyable than this rollercoaster we’ve been on for two decades.

Or just get it right like Hawthorn every 20 years…. I hate to say it but can see them ending up with 7-8 flags this century before we get one. Unless we mail this off season

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Who cares what they'd want? Sure they didn't want Petracca to tell all his teammates he's out. Didn't stop it from happening though.

I care; it's always a seller's market.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

You know who i see in the AA squad, Charlie and Harry, you know who I don't - Petracca.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

you want to bring in a 27yo Switkowski who averages 0.6 goals a game?

For reference, a 27yo Matt Owies averages more than double this.

You can have as much pressure as you want but the small forwards you have around Curnow & McKay are simply not regular goalkickers.

Switkowski is a high score involvements player despite not kicking a heap of goals himself. As I said, the club would have to back in that the more specialized goal kickers could provide enough threat to make the extra pressure and link work from Switkowski and Fogarty worth while.

Anyway it's just hypothetical brainstorming

 

[The Return of the Paf]

You know who i see in the AA squad, Charlie and Harry, you know who I don't - Petracca.

Yep; we'd do the Judd style deal only for it to fail again, and people will still be calling for the same again in the next 20 to 25 years. The draft fails us because we fail it.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Owies and Orazio plus a future 3rd. Take it or leave it Demons

 

[katmanblue]

The change in the HTB interpretation has also worked against us. The inside mids get less time to distribute.

There is no doubt we are unbalanced with our mix of mids. People here complain every time a Hewett or Kennedy is made sub or left out, but we are forced to try something to avoid being run off our feet.

The Dow and SPS misses in particular have really hurt.

And the LOB / Richards kerfuffle. Kid is late to an interview. Why the **** wouldnt someone ring him?

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[skadoosh]

You know who i see in the AA squad, Charlie and Harry, you know who I don't - Petracca.

I thought this was a quote from Petracca...
I need a coffee...

 

[Accidental genius]

Owies and Orazio plus a future 3rd. Take it or leave it Demons

Keep owies

…Fantasia + f3…..take it or leave it

We’re in the box seat

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[katmanblue]

Yeah that's the part where I don't quite agree. But that's ok.

Collingwood last year proved you don't need all these great talls to win. They won with Cox for goodness sake. We've got so much salary cap invested in areas that can't help when our midfield gets overrun.

Cox gets underrated. But he hes better in the air than many rucks and is a threat forward. Also brings the ball to ground really well.

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[Blue and Silver]

You know who i see in the AA squad, Charlie and Harry, you know who I don't - Petracca.

Mate he had his kidney exploded like 2 months ago?

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[Blue and Silver]

Reminds me of when the coach has the full faith of the board.

If you have to say it...

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[RAPPA]

Trac is undoubtedly a gun but we are genuine poo going forward when our only target is Charlie. Trac ain’t gonna help that.

 

[Monty1978]

Why would Harry leave …. He has to agree to a trade , probably took unders .. I would say find another way if they asked me and I was Harry and what’s the reason trac want to leave … leaving a sinking ship type or scenario ??