List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Dayts]

Hes from Darwin which for some strange reason falls under the suns academy.

He’d be a good get if kozzie isn’t an option. That unfortunately I think is becoming a real possibility. Sam Edmund said on crunch time Melbourne won’t trade him.

Sammy putting the kibosh on himself & trade radio this year. Shame

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Not so much player related but Fremantle are heavily pursuing Adam Simpson for the position title General Manager of player development.

Is that a rebrand of Bob's "Vibe of the Thing" role? That would be a hard role for him to turn down you'd hope

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Could it be "Coach in waiting for when JL get's sacked' role?

 

[DragoDelph]

Is that a rebrand of Bob's "Vibe of the Thing" role? That would be a hard role for him to turn down you'd hope

Didn't Bob end up as a specialist skills coach and head of AFLW?

Was still a vibe role, but had measurables.

 

[DragoDelph]

Wingard has retired.

Shame to see him go out that way, probably would have got a farewell game if the Hawks weren't pushing for the 8

 

[Purpletown]

Wingard has retired.

Shame to see him go out that way, probably would have got a farewell game if the Hawks weren't pushing for the 8

Wingard could play but never quite lived up to the hype?

 

[s_wd6]

Didn't Bob end up as a specialist skills coach and head of AFLW?

Was still a vibe role, but had measurables.

I don’t think anyone knew exactly what his role was

 

[Quazar2]

Wingard has retired.

Shame to see him go out that way, probably would have got a farewell game if the Hawks weren't pushing for the 8

He was a decent player. Injuries caught up with him, and ultimately stuffed him. Cruel game sometimes

 

[dont bowl there]

Wingard could play but never quite lived up to the hype?

He had a few years at Port where he looked like the best player in the game, injuries and probably a lack of drive stopped him but my goodness he was elite at his best.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

He had a few years at Port where he looked like the best player in the game, injuries and probably a lack of drive stopped him but my goodness he was elite at his best.

All Australian in his second year, shame he never put it all together. Injuries didn't help him.

 

[dont bowl there]

Wingard trade is interesting, pick 15, 35 and a former pick 19 (Ryan Burton

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Ryan Burton

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27

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191cm

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92kg

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18.5

5star

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12.1

4star

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6.3

4star

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4.6

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2.1

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277.3

4star

D

16.8

4star

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12.3

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4.5

3star

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5.0

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1.0

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277.3

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13.4

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9.0

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4.4

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4.8

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2.2

4star

). Was he at a similar trade value to what Bolton is now?

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

How high is one of the Camporeale's expected to go in the draft? With the GC academy player and Battle our picks are already gonna be pushed out to 11 and 12 on draft night at a minimum.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Wingard trade is interesting, pick 15, 35 and a former pick 19 (Ryan Burton). Was he at a similar trade value to what Bolton is now?

At his best, he was a level above Bolton. (Talent wise at least)

I don't think he worked hard enough to be most out of himself, and his talent could only take him so far. He was already having issues at Port before he left along the lines of not working hard enough in the off season etc etc.

4 seasons where he kicked 38+ goals or more is impressive.

 

[go_the_dockers]

How high is one of the Camporeale's expected to go in the draft? With the GC academy player and Battle our picks are already gonna be pushed out to 11 and 12 on draft night at a minimum.

Battle unlikely to get F1 compo.

Ashcraft will go top 3.
GC academy player (Lombard) will be top 15.
Camporeale both look to be 30+, same with Welsh.

Have a read of Twomey's phantom form guide, to get a basic understanding.

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey delivers his first Phantom Form Guide ahead of the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

How high is one of the Camporeale's expected to go in the draft? With the GC academy player and Battle our picks are already gonna be pushed out to 11 and 12 on draft night at a minimum.

In the 25-40 range according to recent mocks.

 

[dont bowl there]

At his best, he was a level above Bolton. (Talent wise at least)

I don't think he worked hard enough to be most out of himself, and his talent could only take him so far. He was already having issues at Port before he left along the lines of not working hard enough in the off season etc etc.

4 seasons where he kicked 38+ goals or more is impressive.



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Agree, Wingard at his best was above Bolton. As you said, he was on the way down during his last two seasons at Port but pick 15, 35 and a former pick 19 who was best 22 at the Hawks is a pretty big trade. Would be similar to us trading the Port pick (16-18) and Chapman?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Agree, Wingard at his best was above Bolton. As you said, he was on the way down during his last two seasons at Port but pick 15, 35 and a former pick 19 who was best 22 at the Hawks is a pretty big trade. Would be similar to us trading the Port pick (16-18) and Chapman?

There's other intangibles from that trade as well from memory. Port half pushed him out and he had fallen a fair bit since his first few seasons

 

[go_the_dockers]

Agree, Wingard at his best was above Bolton. As you said, he was on the way down during his last two seasons at Port but pick 15, 35 and a former pick 19 who was best 22 at the Hawks is a pretty big trade. Would be similar to us trading the Port pick (16-18) and Chapman?

Burton had never really fired, and Hawks were happy to trade multiple picks looking for top talents.

You are normally win with 3 15+ picks for a top 10 in the comp. They did a similar trade for Burgoyne and it worked really well. They just learnt, that if the player is not willing to work hard then changing teams won't help.

 

[Midnite65]

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As if Cornes and Morris would have any clue on Brayshaw from their ivory towers in Melbourne.

 

[Midnite65]

Not so much player related but Fremantle are heavily pursuing Adam Simpson for the position title General Manager of player development.

Based on how well he developed the talent at WC the last 4 years?

 

[s_wd6]

https://archive.md/gDvtX

"The club is also throwing its support behind Kysaiah Pickett

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0.6

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8.0

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4.7

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3.3

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0.7

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0.6

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, who does not want to be traded but informed the club last week he felt homesick at times.

A source close to Pickett, who preferred to remain anonymous to speak freely, said that was reinforced post-season when he caught up with AFL footballers playing in Western Australia who encouraged him to think about joining them. However, a trade has never been seriously considered."

Nothing that hasn’t been said before, but despite everything else it doesn’t seem like Kozzy is pushing this at all.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Based on how well he developed the talent at WC the last 4 years?

But he won a flag when the players were motivated and bought in. Been obvious the last few years none of the senior players over there give a shit anymore and are just going through the motions. Derbies aside.

 

[Dayts]

https://archive.md/gDvtX

"The club is also throwing its support behind Kysaiah Pickett, who does not want to be traded but informed the club last week he felt homesick at times.

A source close to Pickett, who preferred to remain anonymous to speak freely, said that was reinforced post-season when he caught up with AFL footballers playing in Western Australia who encouraged him to think about joining them. However, a trade has never been seriously considered."

Come on down Malcolm Rosas!

Big fan

 

[GingerDocker]

https://archive.md/gDvtX

"The club is also throwing its support behind Kysaiah Pickett, who does not want to be traded but informed the club last week he felt homesick at times.

A source close to Pickett, who preferred to remain anonymous to speak freely, said that was reinforced post-season when he caught up with AFL footballers playing in Western Australia who encouraged him to think about joining them. However, a trade has never been seriously considered."

Nothing that hasn’t been said before, but despite everything else it doesn’t seem like Kozzy is pushing this at all.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

https://archive.md/gDvtX

"The club is also throwing its support behind Kysaiah Pickett, who does not want to be traded but informed the club last week he felt homesick at times.

A source close to Pickett, who preferred to remain anonymous to speak freely, said that was reinforced post-season when he caught up with AFL footballers playing in Western Australia who encouraged him to think about joining them. However, a trade has never been seriously considered."

Nothing that hasn’t been said before, but despite everything else it doesn’t seem like Kozzy is pushing this at all.

Yeah, I wont write it off completely but starting to feel like we got AFL media'd and Pickett is a massive tease