List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[JammoMonty]

Everyone knew it yet guys were still talking about their source on radio that assured them Jackson was going to stay afterall.

Garry Lyon was adamant he was staying

 

[Tundrawolf]

Pickett is contracted. It's not like he going to extend his contract or get poached by another club in between now and the trade period.

We need to play the long(ish) game and convince him in between now and the trade period that his future is with Freo. If it is something that he has thought about before then we need to entice him of the prospect of playing with Bolton et al and in front of his family and friends.

In the meantime no amount of media reports about him staying at Melbourne (or even leaving for that matter) will be relevant until the trade period is over.

 

[freo1997]

Pickett is contracted. It's not like he going to extend his contract or get poached by another club in between now and the trade period.

We need to play the long(ish) game and convince him in between now and the trade period that his future is with Freo. If it is something that he has thought about before then we need to entice him of the prospect of playing with Bolton et al and in front of his family and friends.

In the meantime no amount of media reports about him staying at Melbourne (or even leaving for that matter) will be relevant until the trade period is over.

He is flakey. His Mrs will have to be our saviour from here. If she says “Kosi we’re going” he’s coming. She’s the one with family links in Perth right?

 

[Tundrawolf]

The problem is again, RD, which is why I'll be close to binning him if nothing comes of it. We really have just RD saying specifically he asked Freo about a trade. RD has been shown multiple times to spin information the club wants him to spin.

What would be achieved by the club providing RD with the Pickett info though?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

What would be achieved by the club providing RD with the Pickett info though?

This places attitude certainly flipped pretty quickly following the news...

 

[Purpletown]

Garry Lyon was adamant he was staying

Garry Lyon, enough said. Happy to push the MFC agenda in the media, so absolutely no credibility. And a knob to go with it.

 

[DragoDelph]

This places attitude certainly flipped pretty quickly following the news...

Don't think we're that high on the agenda at the club snuff.

I know you mean fans in general. But doesn't seem right if there's nothing in it.

They would have been better off confirming a contract.

 

[Tundrawolf]

This places attitude certainly flipped pretty quickly following the news...

Agreed, but how does that affect the club positively if it doesn't have legs? It can only affect the club negatively if we don't get him.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Agreed, but how does that affect the club positively if it doesn't have legs? It can only affect the club negatively if we don't get him.

Everyone talks about Pickett for a week or so instead of the finals miss. When we miss on Pickett it's because he didn't committ and/or Melbourne wouldn't trade him. It's an easy distraction / sell and missing on a contracted player is a much easier pill to swallow than "lost 4 games in a row to go from top 4 to missing finals'. This is like, media management 101 (if this is what we've done).

I'm not saying there is nothing in the Kozzie stuff or ruling it out, but RD specifically saying Pickett approached us about joining could easily be the club taking advantage of an easy PR distraction.

Don't think we're that high on the agenda at the club snuff.

I know you mean fans in general. But doesn't seem right if there's nothing in it.

They would have been better off confirming a contract.

BF is a microcosm of the general public. The hardcore nuffies on here still reflect the masses for the most part

 

[AstonSouffle]

Agreed, but how does that affect the club positively if it doesn't have legs? It can only affect the club negatively if we don't get him.

I personally would get over a trade not happening easier than not making finals when we should have, this talk helped me get over Freo not making finals fast.

I've been swiddled and dazzled, played for a fiddle one would say.

 

[freo84]

Everyone talks about Pickett for a week or so instead of the finals miss. When we miss on Pickett it's because he didn't committ and/or Melbourne wouldn't trade him. It's an easy distraction / sell and missing on a contracted player is a much easier pill to swallow than "lost 4 games in a row to go from top 4 to missing finals'. This is like, media management 101 (if this is what we've done).

I'm not saying there is nothing in the Kozzie stuff or ruling it out, but RD specifically saying Pickett approached us about joining could easily be the club tskong advantage of an easy PR distraction.


BF is a microcosm of the general public. The hardcore nuffies on here still reflect the masses for the most part

That's Mr Hardcore Nuffie thank you.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Has anyone seen Rosas play at all?

1.7 goals for the Gold Coast, looks decent enough. Why are they pushing him out? Weaknesses in his game?

 

[DragoDelph]

Everyone talks about Pickett for a week or so instead of the finals miss. When we miss on Pickett it's because he didn't committ and/or Melbourne wouldn't trade him. It's an easy distraction / sell and missing on a contracted player is a much easier pill to swallow than "lost 4 games in a row to go from top 4 to missing finals'. This is like, media management 101 (if this is what we've done).

I'm not saying there is nothing in the Kozzie stuff or ruling it out, but RD specifically saying Pickett approached us about joining could easily be the club tskong advantage of an easy PR distraction.


BF is a microcosm of the general public. The hardcore nuffies on here still reflect the masses for the most part

Yeah, I get it.

But if was just a PR exercise, that's some risk to take to calm the masses.

 

[Taylor]

Yeah, I get it.

But if was just a PR exercise, that's some risk to take to calm the masses.

Not to mention that it started in Melbourne and SA and makes the Demons look bad to their supporters while they are already suffering Petracca news.

 

[DragoDelph]

Has anyone seen Rosas play at all?

1.7 goals for the Gold Coast, looks decent enough. Why are they pushing him out? Weaknesses in his game?



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Maybe a combination of factors.

Gold Coast need to create list spots. Talk he's not the hardest worker off-field (all rumour and innuendo).

Could just be Hardwick not liking him. Seemed hell bent on Chol not being in his team at 2x clubs, and he goes alright.

Think Adelaide most likely. Think most clubs have reached out though.

 

[Tundrawolf]

Everyone talks about Pickett for a week or so instead of the finals miss. When we miss on Pickett it's because he didn't committ and/or Melbourne wouldn't trade him. It's an easy distraction / sell and missing on a contracted player is a much easier pill to swallow than "lost 4 games in a row to go from top 4 to missing finals'. This is like, media management 101 (if this is what we've done).

I'm not saying there is nothing in the Kozzie stuff or ruling it out, but RD specifically saying Pickett approached us about joining could easily be the club tskong advantage of an easy PR distraction.


BF is a microcosm of the general public. The hardcore nuffies on here still reflect the masses for the most part

Yeah I think that is a long bow - particularly given that we already know Bolton is likely to come.

 

[Quazar2]

Everyone talks about Pickett for a week or so instead of the finals miss. When we miss on Pickett it's because he didn't committ and/or Melbourne wouldn't trade him. It's an easy distraction / sell and missing on a contracted player is a much easier pill to swallow than "lost 4 games in a row to go from top 4 to missing finals'. This is like, media management 101 (if this is what we've done).

I'm not saying there is nothing in the Kozzie stuff or ruling it out, but RD specifically saying Pickett approached us about joining could easily be the club tskong advantage of an easy PR distraction.


BF is a microcosm of the general public. The hardcore nuffies on here still reflect the masses for the most part

That's very cynical. But actually, Dockeroo called this out in another thread, and I agree with both of you. I think that's PRECISELY what has played out here; I don't feel any 'Kossie to Freo' vibes given the flakiness of it and the fact the AFL has to keep the coffers going whilst teams have blundered their finals chances. You watch it ramp it up when the GF is over, nothing like juicy trade rumours to keep the footy-masses happy with the long summer wait for pre-season to start. It's a business folks, and it's a big one at that

 

[DragoDelph]

If Rachele is on the outer, and Rosas looks like heading there, could we grease the wheels in that?

Get Rachele to Melbourne, Pickett Here, Luko & Rosas to Adelaide and picks to GC?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yeah, I get it.

But if was just a PR exercise, that's some risk to take to calm the masses.

I'm not sure it is, Freo didn't start it, there's likely something there but didn't we get pretty excited with Daniels specifically saying he asked us to join? It's just taking advantage of the layup given to you.

Here's my tinfoil hat fulfilling criteria. If we get an RD tweet before trade period saying "Pickett enquired but ultimately decided to stay", we've been managed. If we get nothing definitive before trade period starts, there's a bit more there

 

[DragoDelph]

I'm not sure it is, Freo didn't start it, there's likely something there but didn't we get pretty excited with Daniels specifically saying he asked us to join? It's just taking advantage of the layup given to you.

Here's my tinfoil hat fulfilling criteria. If we get an RD tweet before trade period saying "Pickett enquired but ultimately decided to stay", we've been managed. If we get nothing definitive before trade period starts, there's a bit more there

I think Daniels was the end of the edging we'd copped all day.

From the initial report, to the confirmation, to the Theo link, and THEN Daniels.

Was just the crescendo

 

[Tundrawolf]

I'm not sure it is, Freo didn't start it, there's likely something there but didn't we get pretty excited with Daniels specifically saying he asked us to join? It's just taking advantage of the layup given to you.

Here's my tinfoil hat fulfilling criteria. If we get an RD tweet before trade period saying "Pickett enquired but ultimately decided to stay", we've been managed. If we get nothing definitive before trade period starts, there's a bit more there

Snuff - I need your bin emoji!

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

I personally would get over a trade not happening easier than not making finals when we should have, this talk helped me get over Freo not making finals fast.

I've been swiddled and dazzled, played for a fiddle one would say.

Unless Picket ends up at Freo. Ironically if he does it would be in a trade that most Dockers supporters will say is massive overs and I expect a promising player will be involved not just draft picks. Melbourne hold the cards here.

 

[DragoDelph]

Unless Picket ends up at Freo. Ironically if he does it would be in a trade that most Dockers supporters will say is massive overs and I expect a promising player will be involved not just draft picks. Melbourne hold the cards here.

Yeah, they'll want a foot in both camps.

Player for the now, Draft pick for the future before the tassie drafts.

 

[Rockmelon]

Melbourne seem to have had their head in the sand in regards to the Petraca situation, so maybe they’re doing the same with Kozzy?

“Oh he does this every year, he always gets homesick he’s 100% staying” sounds like a bit of cope.

Pretty weird that we had all of this stuff come out last week and then nothing since

 

[Taylor]

Melbourne seem to have had their head in the sand in regards to the Petraca situation, so maybe they’re doing the same with Kozzy?

“Oh he does this every year, he always gets homesick he’s 100% staying” sounds like a bit of cope.

Pretty weird that we had all of this stuff come out last week and then nothing since

As with most negotiations the one who keeps talking tends to lose.

So I'd expect there to be nothing said from either Melbourne or Freo until waaaay down the line.