List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think he'll sign an extension with Sydney before the start of next season. He has ,more family in Victoria than WA including his parents. I cant see him coming to Freo to be honest. I'll happily admit Im wrong if he does.

Nah, far far too much noise for nothing to come of this whether it's this year or next

 

[DragoDelph]

In your Taylor optimism, what do you think we can get Tigers and Sydney to actually accept if it became a thing

Get gold coast involved.

Swans get pick 6 & 10
Tigers get 9 & 14

Plus whatever else needs to swap around.

 

[theGav56]

How optimistic are you guys Kuek can overcome his injury issues? I really like the new minimalist look of our injury list this year, and would love it to improve further.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Get gold coast involved.

Swans get pick 6 & 10
Tigers get 9 & 14

Plus whatever else needs to swap around.

There's still what we would be paying, we only have so much available

 

[DragoDelph]

There's still what we would be paying, we only have so much available

9, 10, 14 & F1 for bolton and Warner.

Just gets creative with Suns involved as well.

 

[DragoDelph]

(Though I'm starting to think we've offered Richmond Ports R1, F1 & Saints R2 for stuff back)

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

9, 10, 14 & F1 for bolton and Warner.

Just gets creative with Suns involved as well.

I just dont see how that's enough though it would be nice to walk out of a trade thinking we've paid unders for once

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

(Though I'm starting to think we've offered Richmond Ports R1, F1 & Saints R2 for stuff back)

Worth it just for the melts from Tigger posters but I have to think that's fantasy land stuff

 

[Taylor]

I think Richmond are selling their players, they want something for them - not that they want maximum value for them, if that makes sense.

A similar deal to Neale/Shiel/Treloar(first trade, all under contract) for both is:

#9 & F1 for Player and F2
#10 & #14 for Player and F2

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think Richmond are selling their players, they want something for them - not that they want maximum value for them, if that makes sense.

A similar deal to Neale/Shiel/Treloar(first trade, all under contract) for both is:

#9 & F1 for Player and F2
#10 & #14 for Player and F2

I agree that's fine for Richmond but Swans would seem to be very hard to compensate enough if we are getting Bolton as well

 

[DragoDelph]

Roffey gone at the Dee’s.

Biggest supporter of Goodwin I believe.

 

[s_wd6]

Roffey gone at the Dee’s.

Biggest supporter of Goodwin I believe.

Is that the gal who just did the worst damage control I’ve ever heard on radio the other day?

 

[DragoDelph]

Is that the gal who just did the worst damage control I’ve ever heard on radio the other day?

Correct.

When you try to put out a fire with Napalm.

 

[arsesmart]

I just dont see how that's enough though it would be nice to walk out of a trade thinking we've paid unders for once

Warner's likely to fetch his peak price for Sydney this year obviously. Especially if he's ardent on a move. Could drive movement, don't see much hope for a bargain though.

Bolton's contract length and seeming willingness to stay if Richmond can't get the deal they want almost guarantees we won't be paying unders for him.

 

[Purple Suit]

Warner's likely to fetch his peak this year obviously. Especially if he's ardent on a move. Could drive movement, don't see much hope for a bargain though.

Bolton's contract length and seeming willingness to stay if Richmond can't get the deal they want almost guarantees we won't be paying unders for him.

I still think we have to pay more overs for Warner than Bolton this year. The overs we pay for Bolton gets converted into salary paid. Overs for Warner will be for playing the 2025 season at Freo.

 

[dominguez]

Houston still on to go to Melbourne.
Don't see them letting Koz go if they're hellbent on another tilt. Unless they still want to hold some draft capital as well.

Houston to St Kilda is a possibility too.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I still think we have to pay more overs for Warner than Bolton this year. The overs we pay for Bolton gets converted into salary paid. Overs for Warner will be for playing the 2025 season at Freo.

And Warner off an AA year and younger is just objectively worth more.

 

[DragoDelph]

Houston to St Kilda is a possibility too.

They're an interesting watch.

They should go hard at the draft. Right?

 

[dominguez]

They're an interesting watch.

They should go hard at the draft. Right?

Saints have the 2nd worst list in the comp IMO, only WC are in a deeper hole.

If they end up with 6 and 7 I'd go to the draft but they'll be tempted to trade one of those picks.

 

[Purple Suit]

And Warner off an AA year and younger is just objectively worth more.

I think that is the issue. I was dreaming of getting Pickett and Kossi this year and it seemed possible if Kossi wanted out. I'm not sure we can do Warner & Bolton this year as Swans will want too much in contract when they are in flag mode. They have history too of holding out, Horse must have some great tricks to get them to change their mind in 12 months.

 

[ignoramus]

Get gold coast involved.

Swans get pick 6 & 10
Tigers get 9 & 14

Plus whatever else needs to swap around.

I love this strategy of getting other clubs to straight up pay for our trade acquisitions. Not sure why no one's thought of it before.

 

[s_wd6]

I think that is the issue. I was dreaming of getting Pickett and Kossi this year and it seemed possible if Kossi wanted out. I'm not sure we can do Warner & Bolton this year as Swans will want too much in contract when they are in flag mode. They have history too of holding out, Horse must have some great tricks to get them to change their mind in 12 months.

I also think Kozzie is a much bigger need for us. Would be cheaper contract and picks wise. If it were up to me I’m taking him over Warner

 

[Taylor]

Given the price for contracted good players in trade has been two firsts with a second coming back, usually one around top ten and one around the later part, as you can see in the trades of Neale, Shiel and the Treloar to Pies trade, then that should be the reasonable point we end up at for Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

Age

26

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

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M/F

Career

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12.3

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3.0

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4.6

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4.6

4star

M

2.0

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T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

and Chad Warner

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Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

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7.0

2star

K

4.5

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2.5

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1.5

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1.5

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7.0

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4.5

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2.5

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1.5

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I'm willing to drop the second coming back.

 

[DragoDelph]

I love this strategy of getting other clubs to straight up pay for our trade acquisitions. Not sure why no one's thought of it before.

We still give up 4x 1sts.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think that is the issue. I was dreaming of getting Pickett and Kossi this year and it seemed possible if Kossi wanted out. I'm not sure we can do Warner & Bolton this year as Swans will want too much in contract when they are in flag mode. They have history too of holding out, Horse must have some great tricks to get them to change their mind in 12 months.

For me, the only way is like Drago said and you can somehow con Tigers into taking the Port pick and a future 1st as the main part of the value. Would need some hefty steak knives I imagine because we'd also need later picks coming back. Port going straight sets really helps.

I think there is a world where Swans accept 9 and 10. It would be a take it or leave it we have nothing else to give type thing and Warner would probably need to have a mental breakdown in front of Beatson AND they win the flag AND they get Stringer but that's the 1% RD is talking about I guess haha.