This makes me happy - for those who watched ultan’s highlight reel, picture freddy but faster. (Not sure if i am joking here or not tbh!). Far better defender and has a massive reputation for reading the play way in advance. Here’s hoping!
List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2
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Haven’t we hired someone from Geelong’s recruitment team just recently?
Surely NOD has to stay (if he doesnt get pinched!). He brings another Young to the midfield in terms of burst running thru the middle, kicking it into the 50. We need his speed to complement fyfe, brayshaw and serong extractions.
Kuek as a back as well (ie as swingman) is interesting. Hows his tackling and defense? Our backs are our sleeping time bomb for me - AP, cox and ryan all injury possibilities. Needing more than draper and Davies to cover - need the height of kuek, does the rest of him fit the KD role if he adds another 5-10kgs?
Voss developed as a swingman also interesting - any thoughts on this?
Thought Reidy was serviceable - though the support for Knobel in this group is v promising. Don’t think we can keep both - and gotta feel sorry for Jones - brought in as a development player but no room to develop him
Kuek as a back as well (ie as swingman) is interesting. Hows his tackling and defense? Our backs are our sleeping time bomb for me - AP, cox and ryan all injury possibilities. Needing more than draper and Davies to cover - need the height of kuek, does the rest of him fit the KD role if he adds another 5-10kgs?
Voss developed as a swingman also interesting - any thoughts on this?
Thought Reidy was serviceable - though the support for Knobel in this group is v promising. Don’t think we can keep both - and gotta feel sorry for Jones - brought in as a development player but no room to develop him
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I would move Williams and Kuek on before Jones. Big bodied, aggressive fowards that can ruck don't grow on trees at age 19. He missed a bit early this year through concussion and the last few games were just shocking conditions for a big forward. Still he clunked a few pack marks late in the game. Deserves one more year.
Ok so based on the last few days posts, a complete list of those who we could possibly
a) trade and b) cut is something like:
TRADE
CUT
Definites:
Anyone else you can think of? Or who should not be on that list?
In terms of list spaces in 2025, far more likely than not someone we dont want to lose will want to go home “for personal reasons”. (Heh, bolton possibility means we cant complain.). Reasonable to include this extra list spot when planning who and how many to bring in and cut for next season.
a) trade and b) cut is something like:
TRADE
- erasmus
- brodie (if we can)
- NOD?
CUT
Definites:
- corbett
- hughes
- taberner
- walters?
- stanley
- reidy?
- emmett?
- kuek?
- delean?
- worner?
- murphy?
- williams?
- jones?
- knobel?
- NOD?
Anyone else you can think of? Or who should not be on that list?
In terms of list spaces in 2025, far more likely than not someone we dont want to lose will want to go home “for personal reasons”. (Heh, bolton possibility means we cant complain.). Reasonable to include this extra list spot when planning who and how many to bring in and cut for next season.
This post is not wishful enough for my liking. If Sydney and Port both lose next week (obviously Sydney could also win tomorrow) then it becomes 9, 10 and 13 instead.
Genuinely think pick 17 coming into pick 13 or 14 would genuinely help us if the Pickett trade becomes live. It's not an insignificant difference.
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Picks 14 & F1 with a swap of second and third rounders for Shai.
9 & 10 for Warner.
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9 & 10 for Warner.
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That won’t be happening, can assure you .. maybe a late 3rd
(and only because if they don’t bundle it up for points ,in which case they probably wouldn’t use it considering the amount of picks they likely bringing in with trades)
The much more likely scenario and one I’d prefer and think is much more beneficial considering where our list is at is we trade 9 and 14 for Bolten and get the tigers to pay a reasonable amount of his salary,
If we truly are going to acquire a Pickett/warner or both or some one else good ,salary cap space wil be our most pressing issue by far not trade capital
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good grief, that's almost as mouthwatering as the year we had 7, 8, 9 (?) and killed it, w/ exception of having to match Liam Henry w/8
once again, for the cheap seats: f you, Carlton
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We need a little bit of both.
No point having all that spare cash, if we don't have the trade currency to bring in who we want.
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We had 7 & 8.
9 was created when Carlton bid and we matched (pushing them to 10, before they bid on Green and then traded it away, campaigners).
For sure but my point was more in regards to old m8s suggestion that we should be getting a second back with a 9/14 trade for Bolten with the tigers.
It just isn’t happening for the simple fact the tigers at this stage will value idraft picks , certainly second rounders , above salary cap space of which they ll have a shit tonne.
It’s big reason along with the obvious contracted status they ll ask the world of both Bolten AND Rioli
Pick purchasing in not so subtle disguise
Conversely trying to extract a late 3rd or the like out of them is hardly going to move the needle for us in trades for who we’re rumoured to be after
We have access to 4 first rounders plus a decent second this year and another 2 next year .
It should be close enough to get what we want , barring anything more then we’re simply going to have to move on some one half decent
There’s just no getting around that
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Richmond hold:
R1: #1, F1
R2: #21, #29, F2
R3: #39, #41, #47, F3
R4: #57, #66, #73, F4
Fremantle hold:
R1: #9, #10, #17, F1
R2: #27, F2
R3: F3
R4: #63, F4
Gold Coast hold:
R1: #6, #13, #20, F1
R2: #26, #34, F2
R3: #46, F3
R4: #70, F4
Richmond are heavy on late picks and moving players to the two sides heavy on top picks.
We will end up holding some late picks.
R1: #1, F1
R2: #21, #29, F2
R3: #39, #41, #47, F3
R4: #57, #66, #73, F4
Fremantle hold:
R1: #9, #10, #17, F1
R2: #27, F2
R3: F3
R4: #63, F4
Gold Coast hold:
R1: #6, #13, #20, F1
R2: #26, #34, F2
R3: #46, F3
R4: #70, F4
Richmond are heavy on late picks and moving players to the two sides heavy on top picks.
We will end up holding some late picks.
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Brodie won't be traded. He was a salary dump from GC and now he's 3 years older. No one will take him, similar to Connnor Blakely who spent the last few years of his contract playing for Peel.
The Port Adelaide pick looks like 13 or 14 now.
What's your prediction on the Bolton deal? We'll offer 9 and 27, they'll want 9 and 10 and we'll settle on 9 and 14 with Bolton, 39 and a F4 coming back. That's my guess. Anything more than that is overs, anything better is a win.
It's been suggested that Richmond will look to trade the Bolton pick with Baker for pick 3 and the Eagles will take Bo Allan. Hopefully that doesn't happen if we retain a first rounder because I rate Allan.
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One of those 3 clubs is going to end up with Brisbanes 1st round pick this year, I’m hoping it’s us as Tigers won’t have enough list spots to carry all those 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks into the draft night and Brisbane will want someone to hold them.
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**** I hate this thread 
Come one trade week and put us all out of our misery
Come one trade week and put us all out of our misery
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I hate it too.**** I hate this thread
Come one trade week and put us all out of our misery
But I also love it...
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He was a salary dump because he was being paid an absurd amount, partly due to pay deferrals. There was even a figure out there saying, were it not for the trade, Brodie was due to be paid 600k from Gold Coast the following year. We'd have to be complete lunatics to be paying him anywhere in that realm. Given Freo's form, more likely a low flat rate with incentives that he hasn't hit. We're also talking about a player who's only a couple years removed from a double digit brownlow vote season.
I'm not saying there's gonna be some crazy market for him by any means. But I think there's gonna be some team that needs midfield reinforcements which will look at him as a moneyball solution, and with only 2 years left on the deal now I think that's a figure other teams would be willing to match. You'd also hope that now having been playing WAFL for 2 seasons basically, Brodie himself would be more open to finding a new club, though he seems settled in WA.
I think we’ll select 4 players in the ND. The Rookie Draft we haven’t had much involvement in recent years aside from 1-2 picks and some of those mature age like Voss and Sharp.
I’d consider Martin as SSP rookie list. Jones, Kuek and Stanley questionable. That opens two spots on rookie list.
Primary list:
Hughes, Corbett, Tabs, Walters (should retire), Brodie (move on/trade), one other Delisting if no other trades (Delean - I’d delist and re-list him to Rookie list if needed - depends on whether any other players request a trade.
The above would enable 2 traded in and 4 ND selections.
Then re-sign Emmett, re-sign Knobel and definitely re-sign NOD.
I’d consider Martin as SSP rookie list. Jones, Kuek and Stanley questionable. That opens two spots on rookie list.
Primary list:
Hughes, Corbett, Tabs, Walters (should retire), Brodie (move on/trade), one other Delisting if no other trades (Delean - I’d delist and re-list him to Rookie list if needed - depends on whether any other players request a trade.
The above would enable 2 traded in and 4 ND selections.
Then re-sign Emmett, re-sign Knobel and definitely re-sign NOD.
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Houston still on to go to Melbourne.
Don't see them letting Koz go if they're hellbent on another tilt. Unless they still want to hold some draft capital as well.
Don't see them letting Koz go if they're hellbent on another tilt. Unless they still want to hold some draft capital as well.
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