List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

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5 is a decent culling.
It's absolutely **** all considering we were already one up on our list and Williams was a Category B rookie. Only becomes a decent amount of some of our players request trades.

They'll be at least one more gone, possibly two.

My guess would be Stanley is gone except if NOD goes in which case he'll stay.

Emmett seems to be the one they'll delist and move to the rookie list if required.

That doesn't leave space for someone like Martin. There's noise around him that's why I reckon there may possibly be two more gone.
 
We had too many KPFs anyway with Voss already replacing Corbett as the depth player and Jones replacing Kuek as the development player. We still have too many KPDs with all of McDonald, Draper, Murphy and Davies needing a game at peel, one of them can play forward with Voss and Jones or we play both Reidy and Knobel with one always in the forward line.
Writing that list out, we have too many talls, maybe Jones will get cut after all.
 

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We had too many KPFs anyway with Voss already replacing Corbett as the depth player and Jones replacing Kuek as the development player. We still have too many KPDs with all of McDonald, Draper, Murphy and Davies needing a game at peel, one of them can play forward with Voss and Jones or we play both Reidy and Knobel with one always in the forward line.
Writing that list out, we have too many talls, maybe Jones will get cut after all.
I've got nothing against the amount of talls on our list ATM tbh but when Knobel is ready Reidy should be cut and when the KPDs are ready McDonald probably retires. We're at bit in the now and a bit in the future ATM.
 
But with Air, ground, being dangerous, skill, toughness, two legs, two arms and ahead... That's all you need.

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Two eyes, two ears, nose and mouth?
 
Just read the Jack Martin article:

Martin, 29, joined the Blues ahead of the 2020 season on a lucrative five-year deal but only managed 54 games in that time, including just three games this year.

If we pick him up we have rocks in our head.
 
Just read the Jack Martin article:

Martin, 29, joined the Blues ahead of the 2020 season on a lucrative five-year deal but only managed 54 games in that time, including just three games this year.

If we pick him up we have rocks in our head.
Or we get him fit and gain a gun on chips

Then we look like geniuses
 
Just read the Jack Martin article:

Martin, 29, joined the Blues ahead of the 2020 season on a lucrative five-year deal but only managed 54 games in that time, including just three games this year.

If we pick him up we have rocks in our head.
There's no harm in picking him up free, literally no downsides if we pay nothing.
 

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List spot and salary?

Will cost stuff all salary wise.
List spot? Mate there’s always 10 on a list that won’t amount to much.
He’s a free hit.
Can everyone stop worrying about a spot on our list or think we’ll pay him big dollars.
At his best he’ll improve our front half. If he’s injured all year then boo hoo.

There’s guys like Delean and Simpson who combine for 8 touches in WAFL games.

Martin is the definition of a free roll gamble.
 
Just read the Jack Martin article:

Martin, 29, joined the Blues ahead of the 2020 season on a lucrative five-year deal but only managed 54 games in that time, including just three games this year.

If we pick him up we have rocks in our head.
The thing is Carlton are so awful at handing soft tissue concerns that it's hard to tell how much of this is attributable to Carlton being stupid and how much to Jack Martin being cooked. I assume there's ways to ascertain how cooked long-term a player's soft tissues are, which was probably the purpose of the medical in the first place.

The bigger concern is even if it does work out, he kinda gives stuff we already have while being weak in areas we need more of (a problem that go_the_dockers in particular accurately stresses on). He's very good overhead and quite silky. We've got enough guys who can take a mark, though the skills obviously help. We need crumbing and pressure, and Jack Martin doesn't help those areas.

If we're lining up next season with the 3 talls and Darcy (Jackson more midfield time hopefully), Sturt, Freddy and Martin with Bolton rotating fwd a fair amount, it's an offensively potent group. But once teams withstand the initial entry, they'll be waltzing it out. Granted, Sturt has improved in those areas, so next season hopefully improved competition means we can demand Freddy improves in those areas too.
 
Will cost stuff all salary wise.
List spot? Mate there’s always 10 on a list that won’t amount to much.
He’s a free hit.
Can everyone stop worrying about a spot on our list or think we’ll pay him big dollars.
At his best he’ll improve our front half. If he’s injured all year then boo hoo.

There’s guys like Delean and Simpson who combine for 8 touches in WAFL games.

Martin is the definition of a free roll gamble.
This guy isn’t going to be coming on rookie wages. It’ll be multi year $400k minimum. Guy is a mercenary. Just look at how he got to Carlton.
 
This guy isn’t going to be coming on rookie wages. It’ll be multi year $400k minimum. Guy is a mercenary. Just look at how he got to Carlton.

Won’t be $400. Might be 2 years.

I’d hope it’s 1 with a trigger for a 2nd and is heavily games played based.

Give him $150k and $7.5k per game.

Or a sliding scale with greater payments for more matches played.

No way we just give him $350k to sit on sidelines. We’re stupid but not stoopid.
 
This guy isn’t going to be coming on rookie wages. It’ll be multi year $400k minimum. Guy is a mercenary. Just look at how he got to Carlton.
Not sure it'll be that straight forward, reckon we are looking at 300k then heavily incentivised on games, in which case he will be worth it when he plays games
 

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