List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Taylor]

Worth considering that having Bolton in the forward line with Freddy would stretch a team's ability to cover both of them on the charge back to goal. Frederick is a key player in Freo ball movement that leads to score, I think you can all picture him marking in the centre square and then driving it long to Treacy.

With two of them there won't be as much ability to hold space. We only have one Brandon Walker, imagine if we came up against a side with two speedy smalls that can mark high.

 

[dominguez]

Cmon, if you have watched them both play you would know which one out of Bolton and Owies is better. It's actually not even close.

I think he's worth the Pies pick so pick 7 and maybe the saints second rounder (pick 24?). Would be very happy to get it done and increase our chances of winning a flag.

I'd be happy with that.

Then look to maybe trade our pick or the Port pick for a future first so that we have 2 x firsts next year as leverage for Warner.

 

[Joao]

I'd be happy with that.

Then look to maybe trade our pick or the Port pick for a future first so that we have 2 x firsts next year as leverage for Warner.

I've cooled on trading forward. They are bringing in the trading 2 x F1s so no need for Warner. Reckon we are better just using the pick this year (assuming we trade 2).

 

[dominguez]

I've cooled on trading forward. They are bringing in the trading 2 x F1s so no need for Warner. Reckon we are better just using the pick this year (assuming we trade 2).

The death ride with a future first is fun though. Has made every Collingwood loss this year even more enjoyable.

 

[Joao]

The death ride with a future first is fun though. Has made every Collingwood loss this year even more enjoyable.

 

[Purple Suit]

Far out for some reason I was thinking of Owens from St Kilda. I had no idea what people were on about haha.

Yes, Bolton is much better than Owies from Carlton. Owies would not improve us - he's a slightly better but much older Emmett. Small forwards and one more A Grade mid are what will hold back Carlton just like us - We have the same problems as they do tbh.

Carlton also have a crap backline so we have them covered.

Chasing Owies would be like trying to pry Tabs out of Freo three years ago. Given all the opportunity in a side screaming out for a small forward and barely making the grade.

 

[doppo]

I’m at the point where Bolton’s an absolute no brainer given he wants to get here. Walters and Emmett becoming available this week is hardly going to turn the wheel in our favour. I think Walls / current admin have earned our trust in terms of making it work.

 

[Docker82]

Carlton also have a crap backline so we have them covered.

Chasing Owies would be like trying to pry Tabs out of Freo three years ago. Given all the opportunity in a side screaming out for a small forward and barely making the grade.

I honestly think a second KPD that's not an absolute hack or undersized would just about fix their backline.

 

[Vimal Anand]

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[Docker82]

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Here comes all the re-signings the media have known about for ages.

Stay tuned for the massive shock of Wagner re-signing for two years...

 

[MadMundy]

Draper has a lot of Michael Johnson

Michael Johnson

Age

40

Ht

195cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

260.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.6

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

about the way he plays, it's definitely worth keeping him around for the long term future.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

So we keep losing close games & there is debate over Bolton’s worth?

We don’t have match winners with big game experience, Bolton is that player. He may have quiet games, he might kick a few points but he can impact in the middle & forward & will compliment our team of hard workers.

He lifts blokes around him & frees up others because opposition will put their best small defender on him & he’ll draw defenders to him.

If he wants to come home, we get him here. Let’s see what he can do in front of family & friends. He looked good at home against us.

 

[fnerd]

Owies

FMD

yeah it’s one of the best comparisons I’ve seen yet on here and there’s been some absolute ball tearers on this site over the journey

He can’t be serious surely…..

 

[fnerd]

Worth considering that having Bolton in the forward line with Freddy would stretch a team's ability to cover both of them on the charge back to goal. Frederick is a key player in Freo ball movement that leads to score, I think you can all picture him marking in the centre square and then driving it long to Treacy.

With two of them there won't be as much ability to hold space. We only have one Brandon Walker, imagine if we came up against a side with two speedy smalls that can mark high.

Yeah this will be biggest reason to get Bolten as much as his actual output

I don’t think people realise just how much havoc Bolten will cause oppo coaches and defences just by being in our side and playing that type of role for us
- it’s the flow on effect that will make all our other fwds become that much more dangerous

 

[Purple Suit]

Yeah this will be biggest reason to get Bolten as much as his actual output

I don’t think people realise just how much havoc Bolten will cause oppo coaches and defences just by being in our side and playing that type of role for us
- it’s the flow on effect that will make all our other fwds become that much more dangerous

Not just Bolton, have Switta & Freddie in the team too and that is a lot of pace forward of centre.

 

[Taylor]

Judge small forwards on the quality of the tall forward's ability to bring the ball to ground and their midfield's ability to get it inside fifty.

Carlton arguably two of the better talls, midfield delivers it plenty. Owies
Richmond playing international rookies as their tall forwards, midfield VFL level most of the year. Bolton

Melbourne with warm bodies and a game plan designed to bring to grass and mids who bomb it in. Pickett

Add Bolton to the 2025 Treacy/Amiss/Jackson all another year in the gym and fitness building with our already quite good midfield putting it inside fifty. Perfect fit.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Literally a season where we are missing on top 4 because we are slightly not good enough when it counts. We've lost how many games by less than two goals?

Kids aren't making a difference. 100 game players that elevate our floor and ceiling are what's needed.

I know it's been a gut punch of a season at the moment but we are "this" close.

 

[FreoGirl]

am gutted to hear Bob Murphy is leaving

 

[doppo]

am gutted to hear Bob Murphy is leaving

In all seriousness, how come?

I was pretty excited when he was announced as coming over but I haven’t really seen or heard much other than a few pats on the bum in the rooms at half time?

 

[apuchar]

Bolton can be a high impact mid rotation too.

I think that is the selling point. We do lack that in the midfield. He should be ok in the pretty good forwardline we are putting together as well...assuming he can be a little team orientated.

 

[Mr Cheese]

I think that is the selling point. We do lack that in the midfield. He should be ok in the pretty good forwardline we are putting together as well...assuming he can be a little team orientated.

If by some miracle we get him and Warner in, our rolling mid-fwd Corp would be the best in the league. Strength when needed, speed and explosiveness if required, a heady mix of the two should that be best. We really would have versatility to get on top regardless of who we'd be facing.

As for people crying about overpaying; those picks are not worth what they usually would be to us. Say we pick a Bolton or Warner with our picks, they won't be in the side for a while or contributing at the level they need to for a couple of seasons minimum. Therefore if we spend them all but get those two, so what?

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[mightymouse75]

Having thought about it JL has to go. Like I said in the autopsy thread I think everyone is just too comfortable at the club and no one is really pushing these guys to chase excellence. Need a new voice to come in and really drive higher standards and push these guys to get the best out of themselves. Some guys have really gone up a level like Treacy and Young. But a lot of the younger guys have stagna

I like JL when we are winning.
Most of the losses we have been painfuly rudderless and banal.
There is no flexibility.
Seems to miss doing the obvious.

 

[apuchar]

Far out for some reason I was thinking of Owens from St Kilda. I had no idea what people were on about haha.

Yes, Bolton is much better than Owies from Carlton. Owies would not improve us - he's a slightly better but much older Emmett. Small forwards and one more A Grade mid are what will hold back Carlton just like us - We have the same problems as they do tbh.

Owies is a better goal-kicker than Emmett at this point. The snap he missed in the Essendon match was unacceptable for a small forward at AFL level.

 

[Docker82]

Owies is a better goal-kicker than Emmett at this point. The snap he missed in the Essendon match was unacceptable for a small forward at AFL level.

Emmett is a second year player and I'm not sure I really rate him. There's a small chance he'll be okay for us.

I really don't rate Owies at all. So much so I forgot he existed for a bit there.

 

[Ge3ks]

I really don't rate Owies at all. So much so I forgot he existed for a bit there

His name sounds like something a toddler says when he falls over.