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He was an unbelievably smart mark even as a teenager in the seniors at WAFL. He is building his body as key forwards do and will get better and better, definitely has footy smarts- want!
Like I said, I don't remember but I know his stats weren't great for a while.
The hype would have been partly from being F/S too.
I like you.
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AFL trade, free agency analysis: Fremantle’s big plans after Lachie Schultz, Liam Henry join exodus
Armed with three first-round picks in 2024, one team is about to strike back after losing key players in recent years. Which rival clubs should be worried?@ClarkyHeraldSun
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Fremantle has three juicy worms already baited on the hook.
The club has been hit hard by player departures in recent years but is ready to turn to the tables on the competition in one year’s time with a trio of first-round picks to go shopping for a new key forward.
In what is already shaping as the one of the biggest stories of the 2024 trade period, Fremantle is eyeing off Western Australian goal kicker Logan McDonald, and could join Sydney Swans in throwing the kitchen sink at Western Bulldogs Jamarra Ugle-Hagan.
Todd Marshall (Port Adelaide), Ben King (Gold Coast), Elliott Himmelberg (Adelaide) and Aaron Cadman (GWS) would also be on the watch list, while Jacob Van Rooyen (Melbourne) remains contracted until 2025.
But before the Dockers can make a million-dollar splash for another prime big man to partner Jye Amiss and Luke Jackson in attack, there is a more pressing short-term need.
And coach Justin Longmuir, who is out of contract next season, will be desperate to sort it in the drafts next month.
When Lachie Schultz moved to Collingwood a fortnight ago, joining Liam Henry, Blake Acres, Griffin Logue and Adam Cerra out the door in recent years, Fremantle lost its most dangerous and consistent small forward.
Shaun Mannagh would be a ready-made forward-midfield option for Fremantle. Picture: Kelly Defina/AFL Photos/via Getty Images
But if there is a ready-made replacement who looks cherry ripe for the Dockers, it might be Werribee pocket rocket Shaun Mannagh.
The 175cm goal kicker dominated the VFL Grand Final racking up six goals and 28 disposals to win the Norm Goss medal in a losing side, after snagging six goals from 26 touches in a big win over Sandringham mid-season.
They are eye-popping hauls from the clean ballwinner, who rotated between the midfield and forward lines to finish fifth in the VFL best and fairest award.
And former Werribee coach Michael Barlow has given Mannagh the ultimate endorsement, saying the powerful half forward would slot straight into an AFL side.
With Schultz and Henry gone at Fremantle, Michael Walters about to turn 33, and a big hole punched in the Dockers’ goal kicking capabilities for next season, Mannagh seems perfect for Longmuir’s side.
Could the Dockers get themselves in the mix for Jamarra Ugle-Hagan? Picture: Michael Klein
WA product Logan McDonald shapes as a key target for the Dockers. Picture: Phil Hillyard.
The only question is how far will he fall in a draft which seems light on for depth?
The Dockers have picks 34, 46 and 60, but could also use one of the three first-round picks in next year’s draft to trade up in November’s draft live on the night.
Fremantle knows 2024 will be another season of consolidation, before it will try to have a genuine crack at a deep finals run the year after with a bolstered forward half.
Longmuir but will hope for a contract extension over summer or at least early in the season to diffuse any pressure which ramps up on his job.
The search for a key forward is an obvious play from Fremantle to help find a co-pilot for Amiss.
Another big body would also allow Jackson to maximise his extraordinary versatility roaming up the ground as mobile marking target, or tall ballwinner around stoppages.
It is a big season for 193cm Josh Treacy, 21, who will use this season to try and show he can be the second banana in attack.
But if they miss on McDonald and Ugle-Hagan, there is a healthy batch of superstar ballwinners Fremantle could also target to bolster the engine room, including Brisbane free agent Hugh McCluggage, Sydney’s Errol Gulden and Western Bulldogs’ Bailey Smith.
Most clubs will be having a crack at those three out-of-contract stars.
Fremantle has made it clear it is keen to keep Sean Darcy as the No. 1 ruckman despite continued interest from Geelong.
But personnel isn’t the only big question mark for this club after a 10-win season in 2023.
The style also needs to be tweaked. They need more gears, the Dockers.
In 2022, Fremantle had one of the best defences, and best defensive systems in the caper, conceding on average 68 points a game.
But the team went backwards defensively last season conceding 83 points a game.
That’s leaking two-and-a-half more goals per match.
FREO IN FOCUS
DRAFT PICKS2023 national draft
34, 46, 60, 64, 85
2023 TRADE PERIOD
IN: Collingwood’s first-round pick and pick 34
OUT: Lachie Schultz
IN: Port Adelaide’s first-round pick
OUT: Pick 23 and a future-second
IN: St Kilda’s future-second and future-fourth
OUT: Liam Henry and future-fourth
WHO’S GONE
2023
Lachie Schultz
Liam Henry
2022
Blake Acres
Griffin Logue
Darcy Tucker
Rory Lobb
Lloyd Meek
2021
Adam Cerra
2020
Jesse Hogan
2019
Brad Hill
Ed Langdon
2018
Lachie Neale
The club’s one wood kept finding the bunker off the tee.
In attack, where the improvement was meant to come last season, Fremantle’s scoring increased by only one point from 79 to 80 per match.
And Schultz, who has booted 63 goals over the past two years, is gone, Nat Fyfe wants to play midfield again, and Walters is near the end.
So Longmuir will attempt to re-establish the top-line defensive game, while being able to add some layers and tricks to its ball movement and scoring power.
So there are considerable challenges ahead in Longmuir’s contract year.
But here is the good news from a list perspective, despite the long list of recent departures.
Amiss, 20, looks like one of the best developing key forwards in the game (and on a similar trajectory to Melbourne’s Van Rooyen) after booting 41 goals in his second season.
Jackson is a unicorn, and could become the top ruckman in the game over the next decade.
And beneath All-Australian hard nuts Andrew Brayshaw and Caleb Serong, there will be a key focus on the emergence of developing midfield prospects Neil Erasmus (pick 10 in 2021) and Matthew Johnson (pick 21), who can help provide more polish and class to help round out the engine room.
Half-back turned midfielder Hayden Young has the weapons to follow Serong to All-Australian honours.
Those four, combined with Jackson, Amiss and Brayshaw are the core of what the club hopes will be Fremantle’s first premiership team.
But they will have to add some pieces.
They have the picks to trade, it’s just a matter of who takes the bait.
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People thinking McDonald wouldn’t be a need…
we’re one Amiss serious injury from having a forward line that is below dog shit level
we’re one Amiss serious injury from having a forward line that is below dog shit level
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The thing that accentuates this even more is that its actually a Jackson, Darcy or Amiss injury that takes us there.
Our forward line is nonfunctional when you take out the ruckman going forward.
McDonald is an absolute need, him or someone of his stature is a MUST get. Pay the $$$ required and two first rounders to get it done every day of the week.
Cox could be swung forward as an option. McDonald into the team, Oscar that is. I’m all for targeting McDonald, Oscar McDonald.
Amiss, Jackson, Treacy is great. Use the draft capital to target the wings and rebounding back flankers.
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12 month Wishlist
Sign Darcy
Draft Mannagh
Trade for McDonald
Chapman excels on a wing
Regain our stingy defence
Regain clearance dominance
Fix our inside 50 efficiency
Too greedy?
Sign Darcy
Draft Mannagh
Trade for McDonald
Chapman excels on a wing
Regain our stingy defence
Regain clearance dominance
Fix our inside 50 efficiency
Too greedy?
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Not impossible.
Not sure on our draft targets, but wouldn’t be surprised if JL has a similar list.
F50 efficiency least likely imo.
Wizard
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Dockers target ex-Dees, Blues tall as defensive cover
Fremantle has set its sights on a former Blues and Demons defender as a delisted free agent
www.afl.com.au
Happy with this if it eventuates.
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1) Find a deep one on one, not there then….
2) Hit a leading target even if short or
3) kick a ground ball at the pack and let the smalls go to work while taking away intercept marking
Basically the opposite of what we currently do but what Collingwood does really well.
Wizard
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Probably should have upgraded his coaching staff if this is the case.
Decent cover for injuriesDockers target ex-Dees, Blues tall as defensive cover
Fremantle has set its sights on a former Blues and Demons defender as a delisted free agent
Happy with this if it eventuates.
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How tall and heavy is Oscar McDonald? All I can find is he is a 27yo. 81 AFL games for Melbourne and 5 for Carlton, and then played VFL for Williamstown in 2023.
Edit: ha. Playercard link ^answered it for me. 196cm and 100kg. Nice.
Edit: ha. Playercard link ^answered it for me. 196cm and 100kg. Nice.
What? He kicked 13 more goals than JVR. They make it sound like JVR also kicked 35-40 goals hahaha
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Just clarifying that greatgatsby didn’t say that!
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At least one McDonald won’t cost the farm.
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you might be right....
But I remember 2012-15 where we had barely any kpf depth outside an ageing matty pavlich.
People love to sink the boots on Matty Taberner. But post pav era from 2017-2021, we clung on to him as our next KPF hope. He showed he could play well as a Full forward.
Taberner was capable of kicking 30-35 goals a season if he ever had a full season.
Saying that, We are heavily reliant on one KPF kicking goals. We got guys like Luke Jackson, Jye Amiss, Josh Traecy and Even Brennan cox capable of kicking 30-40 goals each.
hell, if the dockers Key defender stocks were not dire, Cox could easily play KPF and pinch hit as a ruckman and still kick 30-35 goals a season.
As gutted as I am with Lachie Schulz leaving, I Dont think our small forward stocks isnt as dire as most think. Yeah Schulz kicked 60 goals in his last 2 years here. Frederick has kicked 50-55 goals in the last 2 seasons.
Yes I know walters is near the end of his career, But I see him kicking 25-30 goals in 2024.
Surely we have some small blokes that can kick 15-25 goals in 2024 on a forward flank?
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Paying with farms? Isn't that a Geelong thing?
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Is there farms near South Freo oval or around Mandurah? lol
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I don't blame some of them... We all know how the Jesse Hogan and Rory Lobb trade went.
Imagine we bring McDonald from the swans then he becomes absolutely garbage?
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