List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[nurries]

I think we have other targets as well as McDonald

 

[Taylor]

I think we have other targets as well as McDonald

How do you feel about Errol Gulden and Logan McDonald for four first round picks?

 

[Dockeroo]

How do you feel about Errol Gulden and Logan McDonald for four first round picks?

Maybe we should get them to throw in Heeney and Warner too

 

[wakojako]

What has more trade value, the midfielder who can't get a game ahead of AA mids or the key forward stuck behind AA key forwards assuming both are equally talented and only miss out on a game because they are sliiiiightly less good than the superstar ahead of them?

I'd argue the key forward will have higher value in the future if they show any ability than the midfielder or otherwise small player.

Maybe it's just banking draft capital for later, the likelihood of a player drafted so late becoming a star or even a regular 22 player isn't high regardless, so since you need to choose someone maybe choose the someone who if they do turn into a gun will be able to be sold later for a pick in the early twenties.

Weideman was traded for 54 and 72, Hogan for 54. I don't think depth key forwards are traded for much.

 

[Taylor]

Weideman was traded for 54 and 72, Hogan for 54. I don't think depth key forwards are traded for much.

Those two wouldn't be something I'd say I was talking about, but both would also represent banking and increasing value over the sort of price we paid for Treacy and Odin Jones.

 

[mayne iac]

W

How do you feel about Errol Gulden and Logan McDonald for four first round picks?

Warner and Logan thanks

 

[Taylor]

W

Warner and Logan thanks

Chad is contracted until 2025

 

[mayne iac]

so we wait

 

[Docker82]

The three F1 picks next year provide us the opportunity to create a GWS type scenario if we chose not to given them away in a trade. Let’s just say we went in with pick 5, pick 10 and pick 15.
On the night - you can really leverage those picks to generate a long term supply of round 1 picks regardless of ladder position almost. For example you could give pick 5 & 15 to another team for 7, 16 and their F1, if they were desperate for a particular player that didn’t suit us.
You could trade pick 10 to another club for 11 and an F2, then slide back one pick like the saints did this year at pick 17 or Geelong did at pick 10.
The smart live traders are using first round picks in draft night to generate more draft capital into the future and it’s a never ending cycle. GWS have been particularly smart with this type of thing in recent years. They are of course losing players for draft capital but - so are we.

It hasn’t been mentioned yet but I think it should be on the table as it could realistically happen…. IF Sean Darcy asked to leave in 2024, we could be looking at pick 5, 6, 14 and 19 when trade week starts up - that’s an insane amount of draft capital for a club supposedly at the end of a rebuild

We could easily turn the three first rounders and second rounder into two top ten picks if we're on the fringes of the eight even. There's probably little scope/reasoning to make mass changes to the list if we have an okay season next year tbh.

Probably 3-4 picks plus trades and one or two changes to the rookie list. That'd be it I reckon.

Once Darcy re-signs I'm not sure we have all that many players to worry about tbh. The rest of our re-signings will be list management decisions made by the club and/or easy enough to re-sign of we don't **** these players around.

 

[Ge3ks]

Just days after the Dockers drafted Jack Delean, part of their push to replace Lachie Schultz, they have invited Woodville West Torrens forward Max Beattie to train with the club.
Beattie will train at Cockburn in the hope of winning the final rookie spot on the Dockers’ list.
The 19-year-old Beattie played league for Woodville West Torrens this season, including stints in the midfield.
He has kicked 19 goals from 18 State league matches for the Eagles after moving there from Wodonga before this season.
The 173cm dynamic forward was invited to South Australia’s State Combine and is considered a more ready-made prospect than others, despite some question marks surrounding his size.

Another South Aussie to get train-on chance at Fremantle

Fremantle’s bid to boost their small forward stocks isn’t over yet, inviting a South Australian livewire to train with the club.

thewest.com.au

https://archive.md/Eu8Gi

 

[Dockeroo]

Patrick Voss is Michael Voss’s son right?

 

[Tonga Bob]

Just days after the Dockers drafted Jack Delean, part of their push to replace Lachie Schultz, they have invited Woodville West Torrens forward Max Beattie to train with the club.
Beattie will train at Cockburn in the hope of winning the final rookie spot on the Dockers’ list.
The 19-year-old Beattie played league for Woodville West Torrens this season, including stints in the midfield.
He has kicked 19 goals from 18 State league matches for the Eagles after moving there from Wodonga before this season.
The 173cm dynamic forward was invited to South Australia’s State Combine and is considered a more ready-made prospect than others, despite some question marks surrounding his size.

Another South Aussie to get train-on chance at Fremantle

Fremantle’s bid to boost their small forward stocks isn’t over yet, inviting a South Australian livewire to train with the club.

thewest.com.au

https://archive.md/Eu8Gi

 

[The Feeder Club]

Patrick Voss is Michael Voss’s son right?

Is he? There you go. For some reason I thought Michael had, like, five daughters or something. In the pre AFLW days, every birth was greeted with a collective groan on the brissie board.

 

[MadMac]

Patrick Voss is Michael Voss’s son right?

Nah, Brett’s

 

[Wizard]

Patrick Voss is Michael Voss’s son right?

Michaels lad is Casey, hes at Sturt in the SANFL.

 

[theGav56]

I am reasonably confident he will stay. I'm more worried about which forward will leave considering we drafted another KPF and are supposedly going for Macca.

We need three viable KPFs, and that probably excludes Jackson. Amiss, Treacy #3. Odin is a few years away if he makes it. If MacDonald actually did come, we have our 3 and are a step closer to Finals mode.

 

[MadMac]

I’m not fussed about Logan McDonald. Be nice to have him but I don’t think we need to potentially sell a farm for him. I don’t mind Jackson trade and still reckon he’s worth it, not sure about Logan and giving away multiple first round picks. Get midfield sorted (which hopefully will be with Cooper Simpson) and that forward line will function way better than now

 

[MakeshiftMartyr]

What is the least we could realistically expect to pay for Logan McDonald?

Two first rounders seems to be the expected value, but could we maybe get away with the highest of the first rounders plus the second rounder?

I suppose we won't really know until we know the value of the picks.

 

[pK75]

What is the least we could realistically expect to pay for Logan McDonald?

Two first rounders seems to be the expected value, but could we maybe get away with the highest of the first rounders plus the second rounder?

I suppose we won't really know until we know the value of the picks.

Really depends on how far Port fall next year! Top 5 pick and saints second should be enough.

 

[Joao]

What is the least we could realistically expect to pay for Logan McDonald?

Two first rounders seems to be the expected value, but could we maybe get away with the highest of the first rounders plus the second rounder?

I suppose we won't really know until we know the value of the picks.

Price will depend on where we and Sydney finish but I'd say something around 10 + decent 2nd is the floor for price. It goes up from there unless we win the spoon and use the PSD threat which I doubt.

 

[Swan Districts Kid]

Last thing we need is another KPD, but have heard a rumour we've been talking to Sam Taylor

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Sam Taylor

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

. Pre-agent in 2024.

 

[poshman]

Last thing we need is another KPD, but have heard a rumour we've been talking to Sam Taylor. Pre-agent in 2024.

Sam Taylor would be an amazing get - however, how would we pay him and everyone else? Amiss is heading towards top end pay on top of what we already have.

 

[Wee Jessies]

Last thing we need is another KPD, but have heard a rumour we've been talking to Sam Taylor. Pre-agent in 2024.

Surely this only makes sense if Brennan Cox has agreed to play forward. I appreciate its not his call but you would want the player to be comfortable.

 

[Wee Jessies]

What is the least we could realistically expect to pay for Logan McDonald?

Two first rounders seems to be the expected value, but could we maybe get away with the highest of the first rounders plus the second rounder?

I suppose we won't really know until we know the value of the picks.

Jeremy Cameron was 13 15 and 20 with two second rounders going back. I agree depends on your best pick. If we have a top 5 that would be close as suggested. Anything outside of that and it would likely be our best two firsts.

 

[Joao]

Taylor is substantially better than Pearce but not sure how you'd handle that transition.