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Sholl on one wing, Cumming on another would be a nice balance (one a good accumulator with neat skills, one more athletically dynamic)
Might push Dowling down the pecking order a bit but better depth is never a bad thing
Might push Dowling down the pecking order a bit but better depth is never a bad thing
I’m not quite as big on Luko as I am on ANB/Cumming now, but all four would help make us a better side now and in the future
Cumming’s athleticism and speed would fix a large flaw in our side, as is. Sure there’s injury risk, but you can’t forever play it safe
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Gulden wasn't hidden away, from memory he was best for his team in the U17 Allstars game. Think his short stature let him drift out to 30 something. Shows the fallibility of recruiters who didn't value his ball winning ability and sharp foot skills.
Swans first round drafting has been poor but they've found some guns in later rounds, none better than our captain.
For all the adulation and praise, Stephen Wells at Geelong has a similar bad first round miss rate going back 12/13 years, Menzel, Smedts, Thurlow, Lang, Cockatoo, Fogarty, Cooper Stephens, hmmmmm
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So he has a defensive mindset? Havent you said Murphy would be a good back pocket player because he has a defensive mindset?
Havent the coaches said Murphy is there to protect the ground and apply pressure - like a defender would?
So tell me why Cummins cant do it again
To be fair, Cumming is more an attacking half-back/wing than a defensive one
No reason we can’t add both ANB (who replaces Murphy) AND Cumming, though
Yep we neee better players for 5-6 spots and that would be a couple sorted
Obvs ruck and midfield , another small forward would be handy ..can’t help but think giants and hawks have the model right re multiple small forwards and pressure
Let us have a look at the Crows first round draft picks from 2014 - 2022:
2014 - Pick 14 - Jake Lever - Talented but we couldn't keep him.
2015 - Pick 11 - Wayne Milera - Talented but injury prone and is statistically an average player. Arguably not worthy of a first round pick.
- Pick 17 - Tom Doedee - Talented but injury prone and we couldn't keep him.
2016 - Pick 15 - Jordan Gallucci - Bust
2017 - Pick 12 - Darcy Fogarty - Talented and still developing after 7.5 years in the system.
2018 - Pick 9 - Chayce Jones - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick.
- Pick 16 - Ned McHenry - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick.
2019 - Pick 6 - Fischer McAsey - Bust
2020 - Pick 2 - Riley Thilthorpe - Talented and still developing.
- Pick 10 - Luke Pedlar - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick. Potential Bust
- Pick 25 - Brayden Cook - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick.
2021 - Pick 6 - Josh Rachele - Talented and still developing.
2022 - Pick 17 - Max Michalanney - Talented and developing.
Other statistically below average to average players drafted during this period include Will Hamill, Sam Berry, Lachlan Murphy, Harry Schoenberg, Elliott Himmelberg, Patrick Parnell and Lachlan Gollant. Delisted players in the same category include James Rowe and Ronin O'Connor.
Of these 13 first round picks it is arguable that only 6 are worthy of a first round pick, and of those 6 we have retained 4. In what other profession is being correct 30.8% of the time considered a success?
Let us investigate a parallel universe where we discover what could have been:
2015 - Milera becomes Charlie Curnow
2016 - Gallucci becomes Jarrod Berry
- Himmelberg becomes Jack Graham
2018 - Jones becomes Jordan Clark
- McHenry becomes James Rowbottom
- Hamill becomes James Jordan
2019 - McAsey becomes Hayden Young
- Schoenberg becomes Jeremy Sharp
- Gollant becomes Jake Riccardi
2020 - Pedlar becomes Heath Chapman
- Sam Berry becomes Caleb Poulter
- James Rowe becomes Jack Carroll
2021 - Parnell becomes Ned Moyle
In this parallel universe the Crows team would look something like this:
Back - Worrell, Butts, Michalanney
H/Back - Hinge, N. Murray, Clark
Mids - Soligo, Dawson, Sharp
H/Fwd - Rankine, Curnow, Curtin
Fwd - Fogarty, Thilthorpe, Rachele
Rucks - Moyle, Young, J. Berry
Inter - Chapman, Nankervis, Poulter, Dowling
Sub - Graham / Keays / Rowbottom
Emer - Riccardi, Carroll, Sholl
Of the Crows current list, I can only see a maximum of 15 players who would make it onto the list of a top 4 team. Of those 15 players, there are maybe 5 - 10 who would make it into the playing squad. There needs to be an independent external review into the recruiting and list management teams, the high performance team, the coaching staff, and the board. We all want another premiership and sustained premiership success. The incompetence of the Adelaide Crows AFL organisation over the past several years beggars belief.
2014 - Pick 14 - Jake Lever - Talented but we couldn't keep him.
2015 - Pick 11 - Wayne Milera - Talented but injury prone and is statistically an average player. Arguably not worthy of a first round pick.
- Pick 17 - Tom Doedee - Talented but injury prone and we couldn't keep him.
2016 - Pick 15 - Jordan Gallucci - Bust
2017 - Pick 12 - Darcy Fogarty - Talented and still developing after 7.5 years in the system.
2018 - Pick 9 - Chayce Jones - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick.
- Pick 16 - Ned McHenry - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick.
2019 - Pick 6 - Fischer McAsey - Bust
2020 - Pick 2 - Riley Thilthorpe - Talented and still developing.
- Pick 10 - Luke Pedlar - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick. Potential Bust
- Pick 25 - Brayden Cook - Statistically a below average player not worthy of a first round pick.
2021 - Pick 6 - Josh Rachele - Talented and still developing.
2022 - Pick 17 - Max Michalanney - Talented and developing.
Other statistically below average to average players drafted during this period include Will Hamill, Sam Berry, Lachlan Murphy, Harry Schoenberg, Elliott Himmelberg, Patrick Parnell and Lachlan Gollant. Delisted players in the same category include James Rowe and Ronin O'Connor.
Of these 13 first round picks it is arguable that only 6 are worthy of a first round pick, and of those 6 we have retained 4. In what other profession is being correct 30.8% of the time considered a success?
Let us investigate a parallel universe where we discover what could have been:
2015 - Milera becomes Charlie Curnow
2016 - Gallucci becomes Jarrod Berry
- Himmelberg becomes Jack Graham
2018 - Jones becomes Jordan Clark
- McHenry becomes James Rowbottom
- Hamill becomes James Jordan
2019 - McAsey becomes Hayden Young
- Schoenberg becomes Jeremy Sharp
- Gollant becomes Jake Riccardi
2020 - Pedlar becomes Heath Chapman
- Sam Berry becomes Caleb Poulter
- James Rowe becomes Jack Carroll
2021 - Parnell becomes Ned Moyle
In this parallel universe the Crows team would look something like this:
Back - Worrell, Butts, Michalanney
H/Back - Hinge, N. Murray, Clark
Mids - Soligo, Dawson, Sharp
H/Fwd - Rankine, Curnow, Curtin
Fwd - Fogarty, Thilthorpe, Rachele
Rucks - Moyle, Young, J. Berry
Inter - Chapman, Nankervis, Poulter, Dowling
Sub - Graham / Keays / Rowbottom
Emer - Riccardi, Carroll, Sholl
Of the Crows current list, I can only see a maximum of 15 players who would make it onto the list of a top 4 team. Of those 15 players, there are maybe 5 - 10 who would make it into the playing squad. There needs to be an independent external review into the recruiting and list management teams, the high performance team, the coaching staff, and the board. We all want another premiership and sustained premiership success. The incompetence of the Adelaide Crows AFL organisation over the past several years beggars belief.
Tom Powell is also someone who should be on our radar this trade period
Local lad , sneaky breakout year this year and north look like targeting a Viney or Wines
Absolute upgrade on some of our mids and still on upward trajectory
Him and Draper would be a decent combo together
I have my doubts on Pedlar being full time mid and am happy if he recaptures his forward role form of last year
Local lad , sneaky breakout year this year and north look like targeting a Viney or Wines
Absolute upgrade on some of our mids and still on upward trajectory
Him and Draper would be a decent combo together
I have my doubts on Pedlar being full time mid and am happy if he recaptures his forward role form of last year
Yeah agree, re: small forwards we’re part of the way there with Keays/Rachele and Rankine part-time. ANB helps for three or four years. Need to think about drafting a couple of dynamic ones in the next two or three drafts to prepare for life after Keays/ANB
Young ruck, another one or two high-potential mids, a speedy wing (if Cumming doesn’t come), a 3rd tall forward (if Luko doesn’t come and Welsh doesn’t develop) and maybe a more dynamic key defender, if Keane leaves? Those are the main holes I can think of
Yep if we are talking 1st round hits I think Melbourne , Freo and Bulldogs prob lead the way ( although dogs plenty of father son favours )
Am I missing any other clubs that have nailed it ?
Sydney and Geelong absolutely not nailed 1st round picks
Powell re-signed earlier in the year unfortunately
Would be an excellent long-term replacement for the Crouch role. Maybe re-visit in 2026
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If we could land Pickett and ANB for 4, I would do it understanding that we forgo a top end mid again BUT Pickett is like Rankine and if they could share that midfield role and forward role, that would be devastating imo. Pickett when up and going is elite at what he does and is worth the price, but I can fully understand why others would not do the deal.
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What? Nank is a gun
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May need some more than a speculative F1, but yeah, maybe Draper, ANB and Pickett costing us pick 4, Melb 2nd and F1. If Keane heads home, then we could even add in our 3rd round pick in the deal to get Pickett and ANB and leave us with a pick for Keane in this draft that we could split for points for Welsh and a late pick
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