Strategy 2024 Midprice Madness

[gutsroy]

300k and been ages since he played WTF.
Joel Hamling been inj for 3 years still 270k...crazy ...

Yeah, you would have to really like what you see...
Hamling over the injuries? Don't think he was a big scorer.
Budarick might be alright if they run it thru him a lot on the way out, I guess.

Pre-season hit out at Hawks, Macdonald, Mackenzie and Hustwaite all rolling through the middle in the absence of Day.

If he gets enough time in there, he could be handy.
Was good late last year

 

[dabombers]

Oh My .....how long B4 Coaches start utilising AI to create sides and trade options ?

I am sure there would be someone somewhere trying to utilise this. Almost be silly not to give it a go.

It is just Player Data at the end of the day, feed an AI or Data Analysist enough data and a model magically pops out.

This year in “FPL” - English Soccer Fantasy, subscription to web services advertising increased promoting several team building and trading tools.
But FPL is a different fantasy game then AFL ones as it is based on popularity not just singularly form based results. It doesn’t matter in SuperCoach how many own a player just how many points they get.
So trying to do an AI would be much harder as predicting the future would only be based on the past, which is what we do ourselves. So realistically it would just be a random luck generator suggesting optimal trades at any round in a season given past results.
The human factor is impossible to predict, like which round Tex Walker kicks a bag.

I think the best we could get out of AI is trading tools, where you put in your starting team and your wishful Finishing side and give it database’s of info and up to date team selection data.

On a side point. An AI can never interpolate the eye test, as in what the stats sometimes don’t show. Could be a moment or two in say a rookies first game that says he is going to be good player, but he only scores 30SC points.
Unless you had access to all the on ground video feeds and player telemetry data and were a semi-genius programmer and well funded.

SuperCoach is usually a few years behind data tools from other big Fantasy world sports like FPL, NBA, NFL etc… as it is really a niche in the world market but slowly gaining popularity.

 

[Choppers]

I know AI is all the rage these days, but, being an ole f*rt, I just can't work out why Amnesty International would have any bearing on Supercoach...

 

[rocker_oz33]

I know AI is all the rage these days, but, being an ole f*rt, I just can't work out why Amnesty International would have any bearing on Supercoach...

ALF before AL...

 

[JuddgementDay]

Thoughts on Aliir & JHF please

 

[Northernsoul74]

Thoughts on Aliir & JHF please

Allir is a watch as rumoured to be freed up a bit by a slight role change.

 

[Duckworthy]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere or if this is the best spot for it.....

 

[Northernsoul74]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere or if this is the best spot for it.....

Nick Martin? I was hoping he’d get f/m dpp but as a mid only he dropped off my radar.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Thoughts on Aliir & JHF please

Esava on Adel radio last week saying he will take the bigger forward and “free Aliir up”.
D3 for me with Ports draw hoping for a really good start, $ and Naicos flip.

On JHF was talk he would have to spend some time forward to give a very fit Wines mid time but the Port boys might have a better idea on that.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Esava on Adel radio last week saying he will take the bigger forward and “free Aliir up”.
D3 for me with Ports draw hoping for a really good start, $ and Naicos flip.

On JHF was talk he would have to spend some time forward to give a very fit Wines mid time but the Port boys might have a better idea on that.

Thanks - for a bit of fun, I like to have a few PODs in my team each year and hope that they don't become POS

 

[jdstorm]

Nick Martin? I was hoping he’d get f/m dpp but as a mid only he dropped off my radar.

Might get D/M but still issue is Ridley, Redman, McGrath all back there too and 4 players can’t all seagull

 

[Duckworthy]

Might get D/M but still issue is Ridley, Redman, McGrath all back there too and 4 players can’t all seagull

Especially if the ball doesn't get down there much

 

[Hawkboy62]

Might get D/M but still issue is Ridley, Redman, McGrath all back there too and 4 players can’t all seagull

Redman is a loose cannon in their back line. Who needs team mates when you are The Man? Prepared to pay retail for Martin if he turns out to be a must have. Good young player on the way up and hits targets but not great defensively. Probably not scoring many goals from HB either.

 

[Significant]

Has anyone ever taken a little bit of bank ($150k-$200k) into the season and upgraded a rookie to a midpricer?

I see it as a complete waste of trade when you could have committed to a midpricer before teams were locked in, but genuinely interested.

On the flipside, if you went in with full DPP and went open minded enough to upgrade the worst performing rookie, then I could see the appeal. On the other hand, is there any point spending a trade if all of your rookies are hitting 60s?

Tough call.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Has anyone ever taken a little bit of bank ($150k-$200k) into the season and upgraded a rookie to a midpricer?

I see it as a complete waste of trade when you could have committed to a midpricer before teams were locked in, but genuinely interested.

On the flipside, if you went in with full DPP and went open minded enough to upgrade the worst performing rookie, then I could see the appeal. On the other hand, is there any point spending a trade if all of your rookies are hitting 60s?

Tough call.

I'd say generally you want your cash on the field gaining value. I like having approx $50k for corrections, much more feels like a missed opportunity.

Having said that there is no point spending for the sake of it.

IMO if you have $200k in the bank upgrade a speculative pick (Guthrie, Crouch, Amon, etc) to a genuine keeper and save the later trade and bank the extra points.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Has anyone ever taken a little bit of bank ($150k-$200k) into the season and upgraded a rookie to a midpricer?

I see it as a complete waste of trade when you could have committed to a midpricer before teams were locked in, but genuinely interested.

On the flipside, if you went in with full DPP and went open minded enough to upgrade the worst performing rookie, then I could see the appeal. On the other hand, is there any point spending a trade if all of your rookies are hitting 60s?

Tough call.

I always plan to have a bit of $$$ left in the bank for flexibility, but come RD1 RD0 - I'll spend all the available funds to squeeze in another midpricer

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

I could go in with this. Basically locked in Young, NWM, Coleman, Chapman & Williams. I could potentially go with Stewart at D1 but i dont mind playing a rookie alongside the 5 ive locked in.

Midfield is full of premos that dont have early byes.

Generic rucks.

Forwardline is where the mid-priced madness kicks in and why im posting in this thread. Im hoping all 5 of my mid-pricers get a decent increase in midfield minutes.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I could go in with this. Basically locked in Young, NWM, Coleman, Chapman & Williams. I could potentially go with Stewart at D1 but i dont mind playing a rookie alongside the 5 ive locked in.

Midfield is full of premos that dont have early byes.

Generic rucks.

Forwardline is where the mid-priced madness kicks in and why im posting in this thread. Im hoping all 5 of my mid-pricers get a decent increase in midfield minutes.

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I had a few of those mid-priced forwards as well but then I thought they're probably not going to be scoring all that much more than a semi-decent 123k rookie who will end up increasing in value significantly more over a short time period.

With the additional trades we have this year, we can perhaps afford to turnover the rookies a bit faster and not have to wait until they have fully ripened which makes those mid-pricers less attractive unless they are scoring at a reasonable level to be worth holding long term. Fyfe and Billings are significant injury risks and Harmes and Phillipou haven't proven themselves as great Supercoach scorers so what is their realistic potential?

I've taken the rookie option and spent the additional money elsewhere on proven players with better and more consistent scoring potential on other lines.

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

I had a few of those mid-priced forwards as well but then I thought they're probably not going to be scoring all that much more than a semi-decent 123k rookie who will end up increasing in value significantly more over a short time period.

With the additional trades we have this year, we can perhaps afford to turnover the rookies a bit faster and not have to wait until they have fully ripened which makes those mid-pricers less attractive unless they are scoring at a reasonable level to be worth holding long term. Fyfe and Billings are significant injury risks and Harmes and Phillipou haven't proven themselves as great Supercoach scorers so what is their realistic potential?

I've taken the rookie option and spent the additional money elsewhere on proven players with better and more consistent scoring potential on other lines.

Chances are ill be downgrading at least 1 of those mid-pricers to a rookie who is scoring well and looks good. Im happy to spend a fair few trades correcting the ones that dont hit as i think if i can nail 2-3 it will potentially save trades down the road. Im really not a fan of the forwardline premiums so it helps that i like the mid-pricers. In addition, I think i've found a mix of value/points/potential cash generation from the other positions which means im giving myself latitude with the forwardline. It could well backfire massively but at this stage im willing to risk that.

 

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

Tom Powell $312k FWD.

Very awkward price but has been on a heater this preseason, looks a new player and much fitter.

Think he’ll earn a R1 mid spot, big PS watch to complement Harmes & Fyfe potentially for me to minimise forward rookies.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Tom Powell $312k FWD/MID.

Very awkward price but has been on a heater this preseason, looks a new player and much fitter.

Think he’ll earn a R1 mid spot, big PS watch to complement Harmes & Fyfe potentially for me to minimise forward rookies.

Yep. Powelly looks primed to be the breakout player among the established North ranks. My gut feeling is I'll start R1 with one of Comben and Powell. For me, those two are in competition with Harmes, Billings, Fyfe, Reid and Phillipou. If I pick one of Comben and Powell as F3 or F4, then I'll only pick one of the others. Preseason games will reveal much.

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

Yep. Powelly looks primed to be the breakout player among the established North ranks. My gut feeling is I'll start R1 with one of Comben and Powell. For me, those two are in competition with Harmes, Billings, Fyfe, Reid and Phillipou. If I pick one of Comben and Powell as F3 or F4, then I'll only pick one of the others. Preseason games will reveal much.

Powell and Bailey Scott interest me. Scott is probably a tad expensive as a mid only, would absolutely pick him if he was available in a different position. Powell is a little awkwardly priced but absolutely could break out.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Powell and Bailey Scott interest me. Scott is probably a tad expensive as a mid only, would absolutely pick him if he was available in a different position. Powell is a little awkwardly priced but absolutely could break out.

Yeah it’s actually that Powell and Comben are fwds in a year where there are bugger-all reliable options down front that interests me.

At this point it’s basically a niche BF meme how North posters have high hopes for Chom despite all the injuries, so I could understand the skepticism, but the dude knows how to take a contested mark, the match sim reports have been good, and SC awards points for interceptors very well.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Any thoughts on Sheldrick?

He was going really well last year, until injured

 

[buttox]

Yeah it’s actually that Powell and Comben are fwds in a year where there are bugger-all reliable options down front that interests me.

At this point it’s basically a niche BF meme how North posters have high hopes for Chom despite all the injuries, so I could understand the skepticism, but the dude knows how to take a contested mark, the match sim reports have been good, and SC awards points for interceptors very well.

Powell over chom everyday of the week.
I love chom but he's made of glass