List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

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Except Travis was 10 when the club was into Jason, can’t believe our recruiter that identified a 10 year old as a superstar didn’t land us multiple flags…

They were talking about him being well ahead of his peers and that stayed that way until his draft year.

Just like there was talk of Nick at 10 and onwards.

When Cam came it heated up again with Richmond piping up to try convince the 3rd most talented brother to pick them...

You can think what you want but I remember posting and reading in threads about Travis well out from his draft.

Was also at the time of draft spoken of as a top 5 or so pick had he not been in FS discussions.

He was a genuine Gun junior and also elite player for us for many years.
 

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Yeah it was one of those stories that was made up as a joke when Trav was looking ok in juniors to take the piss out of Jason and Cameron - they only got selected so thier younger brother would join the Pies rather than Richmond - ha ha.


There is some truth to it, I believe, with Cam’s recruitment especially. I reckon maybe at 13/14 Trav was tagged as a gun. A big pies fan in the media who I knew told me we did not want to risk giving Richmond a sniff so we’ were happy to take all the Clokes we could.
 
They were talking about him being well ahead of his peers and that stayed that way until his draft year.

Just like there was talk of Nick at 10 and onwards.

When Cam came it heated up again with Richmond piping up to try convince the 3rd most talented brother to pick them...

You can think what you want but I remember posting and reading in threads about Travis well out from his draft.

Was also at the time of draft spoken of as a top 5 or so pick had he not been in FS discussions.

He was a genuine Gun junior and also elite player for us for many years.
This was definitely the case.
 
Yeah it was one of those stories that was made up as a joke when Trav was looking ok in juniors to take the piss out of Jason and Cameron - they only got selected so thier younger brother would join the Pies rather than Richmond - ha ha.

You are living in a phantasy land if you believe Travis Cloke wasn't an elite junior and entered his draft year as one of the best talents.

I find it pretty funny it is even being suggested.

It'd be like in 20 years saying they had no idea Nick Daicos was going to be any good and didn't rate him. Laughable.

Fact is the rules around FS allowed us and Geelong (Hawkins draft) to get a steal on them both were universally rated very high.
 

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You are living in a phantasy land if you believe Travis Cloke wasn't an elite junior and entered his draft year as one of the best talents.

I find it pretty funny it is even being suggested.

It'd be like in 20 years saying they had no idea Nick Daicos was going to be any good and didn't rate him. Laughable.

Fact is the rules around FS allowed us and Geelong (Hawkins draft) to get a steal on them both were universally rated very high.
I didn't say anything of the sort.

Jason was a highly rated prospect - we thought we had the next Glen Archer. There was no mention of Travis at the time because he was 10.

Cam was speculative. There was mention of Trav at the time.
 
Speaking of timing, how about timing the rookie draft to potentially finish minutes before the summer cricket series starts.
 
Even if Markov or Ash got picked up by someone else I wouldn't be expecting us to pick up a rookie. We'd just leave their spot open for an SSP wouldn't we?
Depends on whether there was a player we would have taken in the ND available if we’d had the list spot.
 
I didn't say anything of the sort.

Jason was a highly rated prospect - we thought we had the next Glen Archer. There was no mention of Travis at the time because he was 10.

Cam was speculative. There was mention of Trav at the time.

When Jason was drafted in 2000 I think Trav was 13 and on the radar to some extent. The interesting thing for me was that they got them at all. We were lucky Richmond were a basket case about then as I always considered David as much more of a Richmond man than a pies man.
 
They were talking about him being well ahead of his peers and that stayed that way until his draft year.

Just like there was talk of Nick at 10 and onwards.

When Cam came it heated up again with Richmond piping up to try convince the 3rd most talented brother to pick them...

You can think what you want but I remember posting and reading in threads about Travis well out from his draft.

Was also at the time of draft spoken of as a top 5 or so pick had he not been in FS discussions.

He was a genuine Gun junior and also elite player for us for many years.

Yes he was, but the narrative that we only drafted Jason to get Travis is complete bullshit. The club was heavily into Jason well before Travis played competitive football!!!
 
Yes he was, but the narrative that we only drafted Jason to get Travis is complete bullshit. The club was heavily into Jason well before Travis played competitive football!!!


This is true. Jason was a very good footballer in his own right. Probably underrated in the shade of how good Trav became. And also because of the whole being suspended for the gf thing
 

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