List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[manicpie]

Geelong loaded up in 2001.

Geelong done extremely well with half those picks. richmond have 8 picks in the first 23. The Tigers are going to have to get it right


8 Bartel
17 Kelly
23 charlie Gardner
24 Steve Johnson
40 Gary Ablett
41 Henry playfair
69 M McCarthy
81 D Johnson

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

A champion team will always beat a team of champions.

“unless the team of champions is very very good”

Guru Bob.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Supposed super draft.
Potentially set them up for one.

Both are IFs.

If it is one and if they get it right. Then develop well.

Geelong loaded up heavily in 01 which i guess is still used as the flag bearer for so called super drafts.

That was 23 years ago ( it also included the best father son of all time up until that point in time). Assume there must have been some other super drafts, supposed or otherwise, since then with presumably mixed to poor results for teams that went hard at them

 

[sr36]

Supposed super draft.
Potentially set them up for one.

Both are IFs.

If it is one and if they get it right. Then develop well.

Geelong loaded up heavily in 01 which i guess is still used as the flag bearer for so called super drafts.

There were about a dozen stars drafted in 2001 and Cats got a third of them: Gaz, Bartel, StevieJ and Kelly.

 

[manicpie]

That was 23 years ago ( it also included the best father son of all time up until that point in time). Assume there must have been some other super drafts, supposed or otherwise, since then with presumably mixed to poor results for teams that went hard at them

I can't remember any but there might be 1 or 2. What we haven't seen before is 8 picks in the first 23. Tiger's can't afford to stuff it up

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I can't remember any but there might be 1 or 2. What we haven't seen before is 8 picks in the first 23. Tiger's can't afford to stuff it up

Yeah there’s a reason we haven’t seen before and it’s absolutely crazy stuff

 

[sr36]

Yeah there’s a reason we haven’t seen before and it’s absolutely crazy stuff

I like it. Having a real crack. I think it'll work. From this haul and next year's first or second - get in 3 or 4 top liners and then trade hard to build a team set for sustained success. They're not doing Ninthmond again.

 

[Jen2310]

COLLINGWOOD​

Current Draft Picks: 52, 55, 58

The Magpies were more focused on landing Port Adelaide defender Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

during the trade period than boosting their draft hand.

Their first pick entering the trade period was 36 but now sits at 52.

As list boss Justin Leppitsch

Justin Leppitsch

Age

49

Ht

191cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.2

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

0.6

1star

T

1.0

3star

put it: “You can’t get everything you want”.

Collingwood still believes there will be “some quality players” available to it with the late selections, which should come forward a few spots after bids are matched on father-son and Academy players higher up the order.

Leppitsch has said that key position players will be a focus for the Magpies, particularly those who can light it up the forward half.

Could a player like 199cm Northern Knights key forward Tom Sims, 197cm South Australian swingman Charlie Nicholls or 199cm Greater Western Victorian Rebels ruck-forward Floyd Burmeister slip through to Collingwood’s first selection?

Another Northern Knights player — 196cm key forward Gabriel Stumpf — could be another option if the Magpies want to bolster that area of the ground.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl-draft-2024-every-clubs-picks-and-the-young-stars-they-could-land-in-november/news-story/f0e39a7d1c1249d02db1b4ae351ed705

 

[Couch Coach]

COLLINGWOOD​

Current Draft Picks: 52, 55, 58

The Magpies were more focused on landing Port Adelaide defender Dan Houston during the trade period than boosting their draft hand.

Their first pick entering the trade period was 36 but now sits at 52.

As list boss Justin Leppitsch put it: “You can’t get everything you want”.

Collingwood still believes there will be “some quality players” available to it with the late selections, which should come forward a few spots after bids are matched on father-son and Academy players higher up the order.

Leppitsch has said that key position players will be a focus for the Magpies, particularly those who can light it up the forward half.

Could a player like 199cm Northern Knights key forward Tom Sims, 197cm South Australian swingman Charlie Nicholls or 199cm Greater Western Victorian Rebels ruck-forward Floyd Burmeister slip through to Collingwood’s first selection?

Another Northern Knights player — 196cm key forward Gabriel Stumpf — could be another option if the Magpies want to bolster that area of the ground.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl-draft-2024-every-clubs-picks-and-the-young-stars-they-could-land-in-november/news-story/f0e39a7d1c1249d02db1b4ae351ed705

43 Tom Sims, Forward/Ruck, Height 199cm
An exciting prospect, this athletic tall is a great size to be a modern-day key forward and can provide back-up in the ruck.

The forward/ruckman with Briggs-like qualities who starred for the Knights

He was dominant in Round 1.

www.sen.com.au

44 Charlie Nicholls, Forward/Defender, Height 197cm
A marking tall who can run all day, Nicholls showed that he can get it done at both ends of the ground this year.

Charlie Nicholls Draft Profile

Central Districts tall Charlie Nicholls is a mobile key position player capable of impacting at either end of the ground.

central.rookieme.com

SANFL U18s Player Focus: Charlie Nicholls (Central District)

Central District key forward Charlie Nicholls was in fine form as his side notched a third-straight SANFL U18s win in Round 4.

central.rookieme.com

45 Floyd Burmeister, Ruck/Forward, Height 199cm
A former competitive high jumper, Burmeister does things that few 199cm prospects can.

Floyd Burmeister Draft Profile

GWV Rebels ruck-forward Floyd Burmeister burst onto the scene in 2024, showcasing his promising athletic upside and aerial ability.

central.rookieme.com

Search Results - AFL Photos

www.aflphotos.com.au

60 Gabriel Stumpf, Forward, Height 196cm
A unique talent, Stumpf showcased his rare traits as a key forward at the national draft combine with the fifth best 20m sprint of all-time.

Gabriel Stumpf Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

"his coach Anthony Rocca labelled him as a player to watch."

 

[Jen2310]

43 Tom Sims, Forward/Ruck, Height 199cm
An exciting prospect, this athletic tall is a great size to be a modern-day key forward and can provide back-up in the ruck.

The forward/ruckman with Briggs-like qualities who starred for the Knights

He was dominant in Round 1.

www.sen.com.au

44 Charlie Nicholls, Forward/Defender, Height 197cm
A marking tall who can run all day, Nicholls showed that he can get it done at both ends of the ground this year.

45 Floyd Burmeister, Ruck/Forward, Height 199cm
A former competitive high jumper, Burmeister does things that few 199cm prospects can.

60 Gabriel Stumpf, Forward, Height 196cm
A unique talent, Stumpf showcased his rare traits as a key forward at the national draft combine with the fifth best 20m sprint of all-time.

take em all lol
I think we'll take our forward. one defender and one mid

 

[Fat Jesus]

take em all lol
I think we'll take our forward. one defender and one mid

I want them all. Pass this on to Leppa.
Fat wants the stump , burgermeister and Charlie.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

43 Tom Sims, Forward/Ruck, Height 199cm
An exciting prospect, this athletic tall is a great size to be a modern-day key forward and can provide back-up in the ruck.

The forward/ruckman with Briggs-like qualities who starred for the Knights

He was dominant in Round 1.

www.sen.com.au

44 Charlie Nicholls, Forward/Defender, Height 197cm
A marking tall who can run all day, Nicholls showed that he can get it done at both ends of the ground this year.

Charlie Nicholls Draft Profile

Central Districts tall Charlie Nicholls is a mobile key position player capable of impacting at either end of the ground.

central.rookieme.com

SANFL U18s Player Focus: Charlie Nicholls (Central District)

Central District key forward Charlie Nicholls was in fine form as his side notched a third-straight SANFL U18s win in Round 4.

central.rookieme.com

45 Floyd Burmeister, Ruck/Forward, Height 199cm
A former competitive high jumper, Burmeister does things that few 199cm prospects can.

Floyd Burmeister Draft Profile

GWV Rebels ruck-forward Floyd Burmeister burst onto the scene in 2024, showcasing his promising athletic upside and aerial ability.

central.rookieme.com

Search Results - AFL Photos

www.aflphotos.com.au

60 Gabriel Stumpf, Forward, Height 196cm
A unique talent, Stumpf showcased his rare traits as a key forward at the national draft combine with the fifth best 20m sprint of all-time.

Gabriel Stumpf Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

"his coach Anthony Rocca labelled him as a player to watch."

We have 3 picks all very close together

No excuse not to take at least two of those options should they still be available.

Other clubs seem to be able to develop low pick key forwards to a reasonable standard. Maybe it's time we try our hand at it too?

Mitch Lewis was a pick in the 70s for god's sake
Ollie Lord was pick 49

We don't have to create a superstar, when a solid contributor will work just fine in our system

 

[stormskye]

We have 3 picks all very close together

No excuse not to take at least two of those options should they still be available.

Other clubs seem to be able to develop low pick key forwards to a reasonable standard. Maybe it's time we try our hand at it too?

Mitch Lewis was a pick in the 70s for god's sake
Ollie Lord was pick 49

We don't have to create a superstar, when a solid contributor will work just fine in our system

You mean like checkers? Not sure what you mean when you say “other clubs seem to be able to”. Outside of larkey you aren’t going to find many late pick KPF dominating. The Coleman race is full of top picks.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

You mean like checkers? Not sure what you mean when you say “other clubs seem to be able to”. Outside of larkey you aren’t going to find many late pick KPF dominating. The Coleman race is full of top picks.

Checkers was a mid-season/rookie draft pick no?

Also, I never even talked about anyone dominating

I literally spoke of getting someone up to a "reasonable standard" and being a "solid contributor". I don't expect any of the kids that were listed in the post I quoted to turn out to be Nick Larkeys.

If one happened to? Awesome! But I certainly don't expect it.

I'd just like for one of them to turn out to be a solid contributor.

 

[sr36]

We have 3 picks all very close together

No excuse not to take at least two of those options should they still be available.

Other clubs seem to be able to develop low pick key forwards to a reasonable standard. Maybe it's time we try our hand at it too?

Mitch Lewis was a pick in the 70s for god's sake
Ollie Lord was pick 49

We don't have to create a superstar, when a solid contributor will work just fine in our system

We actually have two who were drafted late (admittedly only one by us) and have been better contributors than Lord or Lewis. With McStay and Checkers, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about with us and our KPFs - they're really solid players. I do hope we draft one this year though as neither are young.

 

[stormskye]

We actually have two who were drafted late (admittedly only one by us) and have been better contributors than Lord or Lewis. With McStay and Checkers, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about with us and our KPFs - they're really solid players. I do hope we draft one this year though as neither are young.

I also forgot about big coxy! We’ve done pretty well tbh. The issue we’ve had is we haven’t had that top 10 pick to nab the elite ones

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

We actually have two who were drafted late (admittedly only one by us) and have been better contributors than Lord or Lewis. With McStay and Checkers, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about with us and our KPFs - they're really solid players. I do hope we draft one this year though as neither are young.

There's no real fuss. Again we're also referring specifically to the draft. the last time we took a key forward in the national draft was Chris Dawes. Or maybe Liam McMahon?

As you said, the two we have are older and will need successors.

People understandably want to know that a kid is coming through. Seems fair enough no?

 

[sr36]

There's no real fuss. Again we're also referring specifically to the draft. the last time we took a key forward in the national draft was Chris Dawes. Or maybe Liam McMahon?

As you said, the two we have are older and will need successors.

People understandably want to know that a kid is coming through. Seems fair enough no?

I don't know. There's this one bloke who wants us to recruit Weideman to add to our short term KPF stocks ...


I do think he'd be an OK option if we had lists of 52, where you could afford to run heaps of depth. But at 42 with the need and desire to have some developing players, you can't run that much depth.

And every year there's a clamouring for every NQR KPF who might be available.

 

[Jen2310]

 

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[manicpie]

Probably don't need another ruck forward

 

[Jen2310]

Probably don't need another ruck forward

We can ignore the ruck stuff and just make him into a forward

 

[gouki88]

Probably don't need another ruck forward

Agree, we should be looking for someone who is first and foremost a KPF. Smit and Steene are solid enough as young ruck prospects (let alone the unknown of Condon)

 

[satanshoof101]

Thomas Sims Draft Profile

Northern Knights ruck-forward Thomas Sims is an athletic tall prospect with strong hands, capable of scoring in bunches.

central.rookieme.com