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My mistake, if we delist those 3 we will have 3 senior spots and 1 rookie spot available.
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Currently 1 senior list spot available
Expect us to go 38-6 next year
I’d only keep one of the 3 and it would be moving coop to the rookie list
The 6 rookies Teakle, Payne, RHJ, Dawson, Maley and coop to get the last spot
Then gives us 3 ND picks, currently we only have 2 and 62
But would assume we get 3 decent picks and not have to use 62
Or worst case we use 2,62 and upgrade a rookie like (teakle/Finnbar) then select a rookie
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First-round AFL Phantom Draft: Who your club could pick on night 1
With six bids and 28 picks, this is ESPN draft expert Jasper Chellappah's first-round phantom mock, a month out from the 2024 AFL Draft. Who will your club pick on the first night?
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1. Richmond -- Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID/FWD, 188cm
He wears No. 4 on his back, loves using the fend off and hits the scoreboard from the midfield. Richmond is becoming enamoured with Lalor, and he may be the least likely of the top handful of prospects to be available to them at pick 6. The midfielder's upside is worthy of the top selection. He's a nightmare matchup with his power and aerial ability when swung forward, and the potential is there for him to become the next forward-half game-wrecker capable of the sublime. Lalor edges out Finn O'Sullivan and Jagga Smith for the top spot as it stands.
2. North Melbourne -- Alix Tauru
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
FWD/DEF, 193cm
North's interest in Tauru is well-documented. The high-flying tall is a sensational aerialist, launching himself at the ball with reckless abandon. He can intercept down back or play as a traditional lead-out full forward, and fits North's build perfectly. The Roos have flirted with trading down the order for another top 20 selection but would risk missing out on Tauru if they traded too far back, such is his meteoric rise.
3. Carlton -- Finn O'Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm
O'Sullivan had a frustrating campaign with injury and consistency but it speaks volumes that multiple clubs would still take him at No. 1 overall. Carlton worked some magic to push up the order and they're now in a position to draft the midfielder, pairing him with cousin Sam Walsh for the next decade. O'Sullivan provides immediate remedy to a midfield unit looking for more running power.
4. BID: Brisbane -- Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
Ashcroft will attract a top five bid after capping off a historic junior football career with his third CTL premiership. The younger brother of North Smith medallist Will, Levi brings more scoreboard impact and may start his career inside 50 before graduating to the on-ball brigade at the Lions.
5. Adelaide -- Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
Draper is SA's top prospect and showed he's AFL-ready with dominant SANFL performances to end the year. For a Crows midfield lacking speed and dare, Draper's burst from stoppage, creativity going inside 50 and ability to kick goals from the midfield will surely appeal. Adelaide won't be short of options to retool their midfield brigade, with Josh Smillie, Murphy Reid and Jagga Smith all offering something different.
6. Melbourne -- Harvey Langford
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
MID, 190cm
Melbourne's disappointing campaign offers a silver lining at this pick, where a stack of highly touted midfielders will appeal. Langford is the big-bodied goalkicker, adept at taking contested marks around the ground and using his booming left boot to break down defences. The Demons' midfield trio is ageing, and Langford's point of difference height and skillset adds depth.
7. Richmond -- Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
It's a huge coup for the Tigers if Smith is on the board here after considering at the top choice. The local boy turned out impressive performances for their VFL side and had an unbelievably consistent year on-ball, proving to be one of the best CTL accumulators ever. He's fleet of foot, opens the game up for teammates and offers one of the highest floors in the draft pool.
8. BID: Gold Coast -- Leo Lombard
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 179cm
Lombard adds to the Suns Academy riches; an explosive forward-half midfielder that won a VFL premiership as a 16-year-old and would have played a lot of AFL football if he was on the Gold Coast list in 2024. His mix of speed, agility and power is unmatched in junior football and the Suns will happily match a bid wherever it falls. The Saints have been rumoured to strike here, but this bid could come a little later.
9. St Kilda -- Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 195cm
Smillie is the type of high-upside midfielder St Kilda has been craving. His ceiling is tantalising as a 195cm inside midfielder with beautiful skills, able to feed runners like Darcy Wilson on the outside and get forward to kick goals. Smillie spent extended periods as the top choice for a lot of recruiters this year but fell away late in the year.
10. St Kilda -- Xavier Lindsay
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
MID, 183cm
Lindsay's intangibles as a leader with a professional mindset is super impressive when combined with his silky inside-outside game. He's a running machine with a laser left boot, fitting Ross Lyon's power running list build to a tee. Isaac Kako may attract a bid at this point, and local talent Murphy Reid and Harry Armstrong will also be considered.
11. Melbourne -- Murphy Reid
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 180cm
Reid's draft range is wide, but his silky talent has been undeniable all season. He claimed Vic Metro's MVP at the championships and won another flag with Sandringham despite injuring his knee in the Grand Final. Melbourne's search for more goals could settle on Reid after trading up for this pick; he figures to start his career as a creative half forward before eventually moving on-ball.
12. Richmond -- Tobie Travaglia
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
DEF/MID, 187cm
Travaglia is unique at the top of the pool, a hard-running halfback with leadership aspirations and bucket loads of competitiveness. It's not only an area of need for the Tigers, but Travaglia suits in the cultural elements that he provides for a rebuild. His flexibility to play across all three levels will appeal for a club effectively restarting with a blank canvas.
13. BID: Essendon -- Isaac Kako
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
A bid for Kako may come earlier, and Essendon saw it likely that pick 9 would be eaten up so pulled the trigger to trade out. It means they guarantee themselves the best small forward in the pool. Kako is a sublime goalkicker with aspirations to move up the ground in time. His dash, dare and poise are much-needed in the Dons' forward 50.
14. Richmond -- Harry Armstrong
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD, 195cm
Armstrong finished the season with a bang and is a lot of recruiter's best key forward in the pool. After taking Lalor, Smith and Travaglia, shoring up key position stocks should be a priority for the Tigers. Armstrong's ability to get up the ground, clunk big pack marks and kick accurately for goal is a well-rounded package.
15. West Coast -- Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/MID, 191cm
It's no sure thing WA's best prospect makes it to the Eagles after they traded down from No. 3. But it's also not a given that they target him at this point if Travaglia or Reid are available. Allan won a WAFL premiership with Peel Thunder last month and has split his time both in the engine room and off halfback. He's defensively inclined, offers an elite athletic profile and is one of the best leaders in the pool. Allan will play a lot of senior football next year.
16. Port Adelaide -- Joe Berry
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 181cm
Berry's creativity, scoreboard impact and precise ball use has made him a first-round lock, and he has a host of clubs interested in this range. It's the type of player Port Adelaide would have loved in finals, able to make the most of half-chances and execute under pressure. Berry adds immediate competition in a shallow small forward unit at the Power, who have also shown interest in Cooper Hynes and Luke Trainor.
17. Fremantle -- Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Hotton is a relative unknown after tearing his ACL early in the season, but he was on track to be picked much higher than this spot. Fremantle has registered interest in Berry and Hotton may be the next best thing, with his accumulation, goalkicking penchant and class all hallmarks of his game. Long-term, the agile Dragons star may become a nasty one-two punch with recruit Shai Bolton.
18. GWS -- Oli Hannaford
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
FWD/DEF, 180cm
Hannaford has burst into first-round contention after leaving his run too late to attract a national combine invite. That won't stop the Giants from swooping at this stage - his aerial ability for a small forward is elite, and he loves to use his speed and nous to kick goals in a variety of ways.
19. GWS -- Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
A Moama native, Shanahan solidified his first-round stock with a brilliant block of football for Essendon in the VFL. The barrel-chested tall is a strong contested mark and booming kick, plus showed good aerobic capacity at the combine. He's a long-term prospect at the next level and GWS can afford to wait, but this selection is also a live trade chance on the night.
20. BID: Brisbane -- Sam Marshall
Sandringham Dragons/Allies
MID, 185cm
Academy graduate Marshall adds to the Lions' riches and is likely to bring about a bid on the first night. While the Dogs would love to add his running power, it's Brisbane who has first dibs. Like Jaspa Fletcher before him, Marshall may start his career on a wing.
21. Western Bulldogs -- Cooper Hynes
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
FWD/MID, 190cm
The Dogs don't have a player like Hynes, whose power, speed and tackling intent will make him an exciting half forward at the next level. Hynes tore games apart from the midfield by kicking bags of goals and finding a lot of the ball, and his upside as a game-changing midfielder is also exciting. The Dogs have lost a lot of run from their midfield and Hynes has the scope to fill the hole alongside Ryley Sanders, but not before he adds more pressure to their forward line.
22. Richmond -- Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Trainor is the slider in this phantom draft, but he shouldn't make it past the Tigers at this point. The intercepting tall was touted as a top 10 pick earlier this season but an inconsistent run due to injury has seen him drop out of that top rung. He's a beautiful aerialist and classy by foot, able to kickstart transition with slicing ball use. The tutelage of Nick Vlastuin may be exactly what Trainor needs.
23. Sydney -- Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
The Swans took their ruck of the future last year in Will Green and should be looking for more depth in their key position players after falling short again. Jack Whitlock is a strong-marking forward with huge potential up forward with his athletic base and reach. He'll be a slow burn as he builds out his frame but the upside is huge as the focal point of a team's forward line.
24. Richmond -- Alex Dodson
Sturt/South Australia
RUC, 203cm
This pick may be moved if a package entices the Tigers, but if not Alex Dodson will appeal as the ruck of the future. The basketball star turned his back on college scholarships and a professional contract to pursue football; he's the top ruck prospect this year and his soft hands and ability to win clearances will eventually translate well to the next level.
25. GWS -- Matt Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
DEF/FWD, 199cm
Matt won't be made to wait long after Jack is picked, and the Giants are able to take key position talent of the future if they don't move this selection. A key defender who has been swung forward to great success, Whitlock will require time but offers good insurance if Leek Aleer moves on next year.
26. Sydney -- Hamish Davis
Claremont/Western Australia
FWD/MID, 190cm
The Swans took a swing at Will Hayward to great success a few years ago and could do so again with a similar player in Hamish Davis. The aerobic freak is a prolific goalkicker at half forward and had monster games in the midfield at Colts level. Davis has everything required of the modern-day half forward.
27. BID: St Kilda -- Adrian Cole
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
It might be a surprise to see Cole bid on in the first round, but he's quietly put together a brilliant season as a lockdown tall defender and his strong combine 2km has him in considerations on night one. St Kilda will be keen to match a bid on their academy prospect who looks sure to eventually fill the place of the departed Josh Battle.
28. Richmond -- Jesse Dattoli
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 179cm
Dattoli's profile is unique -- he averages a contested mark per game despite his size and is a nightmare one-on-one matchup with his smarts and strength. He's also shown ability on-ball to rack up possessions and hit the scoreboard from the midfield, but despite the package there isn't buzz around him much higher than this spot. The Tigers could trade out here, but the upside swing on Dattoli would be a nice decision.
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID/FWD, 188cm
He wears No. 4 on his back, loves using the fend off and hits the scoreboard from the midfield. Richmond is becoming enamoured with Lalor, and he may be the least likely of the top handful of prospects to be available to them at pick 6. The midfielder's upside is worthy of the top selection. He's a nightmare matchup with his power and aerial ability when swung forward, and the potential is there for him to become the next forward-half game-wrecker capable of the sublime. Lalor edges out Finn O'Sullivan and Jagga Smith for the top spot as it stands.
2. North Melbourne -- Alix Tauru
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
FWD/DEF, 193cm
North's interest in Tauru is well-documented. The high-flying tall is a sensational aerialist, launching himself at the ball with reckless abandon. He can intercept down back or play as a traditional lead-out full forward, and fits North's build perfectly. The Roos have flirted with trading down the order for another top 20 selection but would risk missing out on Tauru if they traded too far back, such is his meteoric rise.
3. Carlton -- Finn O'Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm
O'Sullivan had a frustrating campaign with injury and consistency but it speaks volumes that multiple clubs would still take him at No. 1 overall. Carlton worked some magic to push up the order and they're now in a position to draft the midfielder, pairing him with cousin Sam Walsh for the next decade. O'Sullivan provides immediate remedy to a midfield unit looking for more running power.
4. BID: Brisbane -- Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
Ashcroft will attract a top five bid after capping off a historic junior football career with his third CTL premiership. The younger brother of North Smith medallist Will, Levi brings more scoreboard impact and may start his career inside 50 before graduating to the on-ball brigade at the Lions.
5. Adelaide -- Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
Draper is SA's top prospect and showed he's AFL-ready with dominant SANFL performances to end the year. For a Crows midfield lacking speed and dare, Draper's burst from stoppage, creativity going inside 50 and ability to kick goals from the midfield will surely appeal. Adelaide won't be short of options to retool their midfield brigade, with Josh Smillie, Murphy Reid and Jagga Smith all offering something different.
6. Melbourne -- Harvey Langford
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
MID, 190cm
Melbourne's disappointing campaign offers a silver lining at this pick, where a stack of highly touted midfielders will appeal. Langford is the big-bodied goalkicker, adept at taking contested marks around the ground and using his booming left boot to break down defences. The Demons' midfield trio is ageing, and Langford's point of difference height and skillset adds depth.
7. Richmond -- Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
It's a huge coup for the Tigers if Smith is on the board here after considering at the top choice. The local boy turned out impressive performances for their VFL side and had an unbelievably consistent year on-ball, proving to be one of the best CTL accumulators ever. He's fleet of foot, opens the game up for teammates and offers one of the highest floors in the draft pool.
8. BID: Gold Coast -- Leo Lombard
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 179cm
Lombard adds to the Suns Academy riches; an explosive forward-half midfielder that won a VFL premiership as a 16-year-old and would have played a lot of AFL football if he was on the Gold Coast list in 2024. His mix of speed, agility and power is unmatched in junior football and the Suns will happily match a bid wherever it falls. The Saints have been rumoured to strike here, but this bid could come a little later.
9. St Kilda -- Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 195cm
Smillie is the type of high-upside midfielder St Kilda has been craving. His ceiling is tantalising as a 195cm inside midfielder with beautiful skills, able to feed runners like Darcy Wilson on the outside and get forward to kick goals. Smillie spent extended periods as the top choice for a lot of recruiters this year but fell away late in the year.
10. St Kilda -- Xavier Lindsay
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
MID, 183cm
Lindsay's intangibles as a leader with a professional mindset is super impressive when combined with his silky inside-outside game. He's a running machine with a laser left boot, fitting Ross Lyon's power running list build to a tee. Isaac Kako may attract a bid at this point, and local talent Murphy Reid and Harry Armstrong will also be considered.
11. Melbourne -- Murphy Reid
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 180cm
Reid's draft range is wide, but his silky talent has been undeniable all season. He claimed Vic Metro's MVP at the championships and won another flag with Sandringham despite injuring his knee in the Grand Final. Melbourne's search for more goals could settle on Reid after trading up for this pick; he figures to start his career as a creative half forward before eventually moving on-ball.
12. Richmond -- Tobie Travaglia
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
DEF/MID, 187cm
Travaglia is unique at the top of the pool, a hard-running halfback with leadership aspirations and bucket loads of competitiveness. It's not only an area of need for the Tigers, but Travaglia suits in the cultural elements that he provides for a rebuild. His flexibility to play across all three levels will appeal for a club effectively restarting with a blank canvas.
13. BID: Essendon -- Isaac Kako
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
A bid for Kako may come earlier, and Essendon saw it likely that pick 9 would be eaten up so pulled the trigger to trade out. It means they guarantee themselves the best small forward in the pool. Kako is a sublime goalkicker with aspirations to move up the ground in time. His dash, dare and poise are much-needed in the Dons' forward 50.
14. Richmond -- Harry Armstrong
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD, 195cm
Armstrong finished the season with a bang and is a lot of recruiter's best key forward in the pool. After taking Lalor, Smith and Travaglia, shoring up key position stocks should be a priority for the Tigers. Armstrong's ability to get up the ground, clunk big pack marks and kick accurately for goal is a well-rounded package.
15. West Coast -- Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/MID, 191cm
It's no sure thing WA's best prospect makes it to the Eagles after they traded down from No. 3. But it's also not a given that they target him at this point if Travaglia or Reid are available. Allan won a WAFL premiership with Peel Thunder last month and has split his time both in the engine room and off halfback. He's defensively inclined, offers an elite athletic profile and is one of the best leaders in the pool. Allan will play a lot of senior football next year.
16. Port Adelaide -- Joe Berry
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 181cm
Berry's creativity, scoreboard impact and precise ball use has made him a first-round lock, and he has a host of clubs interested in this range. It's the type of player Port Adelaide would have loved in finals, able to make the most of half-chances and execute under pressure. Berry adds immediate competition in a shallow small forward unit at the Power, who have also shown interest in Cooper Hynes and Luke Trainor.
17. Fremantle -- Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Hotton is a relative unknown after tearing his ACL early in the season, but he was on track to be picked much higher than this spot. Fremantle has registered interest in Berry and Hotton may be the next best thing, with his accumulation, goalkicking penchant and class all hallmarks of his game. Long-term, the agile Dragons star may become a nasty one-two punch with recruit Shai Bolton.
18. GWS -- Oli Hannaford
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
FWD/DEF, 180cm
Hannaford has burst into first-round contention after leaving his run too late to attract a national combine invite. That won't stop the Giants from swooping at this stage - his aerial ability for a small forward is elite, and he loves to use his speed and nous to kick goals in a variety of ways.
19. GWS -- Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
A Moama native, Shanahan solidified his first-round stock with a brilliant block of football for Essendon in the VFL. The barrel-chested tall is a strong contested mark and booming kick, plus showed good aerobic capacity at the combine. He's a long-term prospect at the next level and GWS can afford to wait, but this selection is also a live trade chance on the night.
20. BID: Brisbane -- Sam Marshall
Sandringham Dragons/Allies
MID, 185cm
Academy graduate Marshall adds to the Lions' riches and is likely to bring about a bid on the first night. While the Dogs would love to add his running power, it's Brisbane who has first dibs. Like Jaspa Fletcher before him, Marshall may start his career on a wing.
21. Western Bulldogs -- Cooper Hynes
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
FWD/MID, 190cm
The Dogs don't have a player like Hynes, whose power, speed and tackling intent will make him an exciting half forward at the next level. Hynes tore games apart from the midfield by kicking bags of goals and finding a lot of the ball, and his upside as a game-changing midfielder is also exciting. The Dogs have lost a lot of run from their midfield and Hynes has the scope to fill the hole alongside Ryley Sanders, but not before he adds more pressure to their forward line.
22. Richmond -- Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Trainor is the slider in this phantom draft, but he shouldn't make it past the Tigers at this point. The intercepting tall was touted as a top 10 pick earlier this season but an inconsistent run due to injury has seen him drop out of that top rung. He's a beautiful aerialist and classy by foot, able to kickstart transition with slicing ball use. The tutelage of Nick Vlastuin may be exactly what Trainor needs.
23. Sydney -- Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
The Swans took their ruck of the future last year in Will Green and should be looking for more depth in their key position players after falling short again. Jack Whitlock is a strong-marking forward with huge potential up forward with his athletic base and reach. He'll be a slow burn as he builds out his frame but the upside is huge as the focal point of a team's forward line.
24. Richmond -- Alex Dodson
Sturt/South Australia
RUC, 203cm
This pick may be moved if a package entices the Tigers, but if not Alex Dodson will appeal as the ruck of the future. The basketball star turned his back on college scholarships and a professional contract to pursue football; he's the top ruck prospect this year and his soft hands and ability to win clearances will eventually translate well to the next level.
25. GWS -- Matt Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
DEF/FWD, 199cm
Matt won't be made to wait long after Jack is picked, and the Giants are able to take key position talent of the future if they don't move this selection. A key defender who has been swung forward to great success, Whitlock will require time but offers good insurance if Leek Aleer moves on next year.
26. Sydney -- Hamish Davis
Claremont/Western Australia
FWD/MID, 190cm
The Swans took a swing at Will Hayward to great success a few years ago and could do so again with a similar player in Hamish Davis. The aerobic freak is a prolific goalkicker at half forward and had monster games in the midfield at Colts level. Davis has everything required of the modern-day half forward.
27. BID: St Kilda -- Adrian Cole
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
It might be a surprise to see Cole bid on in the first round, but he's quietly put together a brilliant season as a lockdown tall defender and his strong combine 2km has him in considerations on night one. St Kilda will be keen to match a bid on their academy prospect who looks sure to eventually fill the place of the departed Josh Battle.
28. Richmond -- Jesse Dattoli
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 179cm
Dattoli's profile is unique -- he averages a contested mark per game despite his size and is a nightmare one-on-one matchup with his smarts and strength. He's also shown ability on-ball to rack up possessions and hit the scoreboard from the midfield, but despite the package there isn't buzz around him much higher than this spot. The Tigers could trade out here, but the upside swing on Dattoli would be a nice decision.
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These published top 25 lists start to look very similar this time of year.
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Huge accusation that nostra is repetative.
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It’s surprising how many still don’t know the list spot situation
My post should be pinned to the top of the thread
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Lots of requests recently for more vision of Sam Lalor. Given his injury restricted 2024 season we have to go back to 2023 when he was a bottom ager. Here we see him putting in a remarkably powerful game as an inside midfielder given he's a year younger than most of his opponents, bulldozing through stoppage or crunching in with tackling pressure. He found plenty of the footy, but was uncharacteristically a bit variable with his disposal.
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| Draft | ESPN Phantom OCT 23 | Zero Hanger Phantom OCT 23 |
| 1 | Richmond – Sam Lalor | Richmond – Finn O'Sullivan |
| 2 | North Melbourne – Alix Tauru | Brisbane (bid) – Levi Ashcroft |
| 3 | Carlton – Finn O'Sullivan | North Melbourne – Sam Lalor |
| 4 | Brisbane (bid) – Levi Ashcroft | Carlton – Jagga Smith |
| 5 | Adelaide – Sid Draper | Adelaide – Sid Draper |
| 6 | Melbourne – Harvey Langford | Melbourne – Harvey Langford |
| 7 | Richmond – Jagga Smith | Richmond – Murphy Reid |
| 8 | Gold Coast (bid) – Leo Lombard | St Kilda – Josh Smillie |
| 9 | St Kilda – Josh Smillie | St Kilda – Harry Armstrong |
| 10 | St Kilda – Xavier Lindsay | Essendon (bid) – Isaac Kako |
| 11 | Melbourne – Murphy Reid | Melbourne – Luke Trainor |
| 12 | Richmond – Tobie Travaglia | Richmond – Tobie Travaglia |
| 13 | Essendon (bid) – Isaac Kako | Richmond – Alix Tauru |
| 14 | Richmond – Harry Armstrong | Gold Coast (bid) – Leo Lombard |
| 15 | West Coast – Bo Allan | West Coast – Bo Allan |
| 16 | Port Adelaide – Joe Berry | Port Adelaide – Cooper Hynes |
| 17 | Fremantle – Taj Hotton | Fremantle – Taj Hotton |
| 18 | GWS – Ollie Hanford | GWS – Xavier Lindsay |
| 19 | GWS – Jobe Shanahan | GWS – Jobe Shanahan |
| 20 | Brisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall | Western Bulldogs – Alex Dodson |
| 21 | Western Bulldogs – Cooper Hynes | Richmond – Joe Berry |
| 22 | Richmond – Luke Trainor | Brisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall |
| 23 | Sydney – Jack Whitlock | Sydney – Kayle Gerreyn |
| 24 | Richmond – Alex Dodson | Richmond – Jonty Faull |
| 25 | GWS – Matt Whitlock | GWS – Jack Whitlock |
| 26 | Sydney – Hamish Davis | Sydney – Jesse Datoll |
| 27 | St Kilda (bid) – Adrian Cole | Richmond – James Barat |
| 28 | Richmond – Jesse Dattoll |
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Would put money that the bloke who wrote the ESPN one is a tigger supporter. Zero Hanger harder to pick.
We typed exact same thing....so obvious isn't it.Clearly written by a Tigers fan. Jagga slipping to 7 and Armstrong to 14
FTFY. This is what I want to see. I've seen all the top 10 and for me it's obvious. Remember the numbers that Sheezel was putting up in his final year before being drafted? Jagga has done the same and is super consistent, as Sheezel was, and then has been as an AFL player. I feel like we need that. We have that with Sheezel and with McKercher. With Jagga we get a third player who accumulates it and has great skill and footy IQ. To me that is priceless.
I get the allure with guys like Lalor and Langford and so on, but Smith has the runs on the board, so to speak. I'll be stoked if we keep pick two and then draft him at pick 3.
In the event that we were able to get 10/11 from Richmond for a future first rounder, I'd love to see what we'd do there.
Assuming we'd go with a mid at 2 Lalor/O'Sullivan/Smith/Langford
Pick 10 a KP - Armstrong/J.Whitlock/Tauru/Shanahan
Pick 11 all-rounder or utility - Xavier Lindsay/Bo Allen/Taj Hotton/Tobie Travaglia
Re-jigged the senior list and Trade in a F3 to take one of the other KP's later on in the draft - Kayle Gerreyn, Tom Sims, Harry O'Farrell, Noah Mraz.
That would be an ideal scenario for us imo.
Assuming we'd go with a mid at 2 Lalor/O'Sullivan/Smith/Langford
Pick 10 a KP - Armstrong/J.Whitlock/Tauru/Shanahan
Pick 11 all-rounder or utility - Xavier Lindsay/Bo Allen/Taj Hotton/Tobie Travaglia
Re-jigged the senior list and Trade in a F3 to take one of the other KP's later on in the draft - Kayle Gerreyn, Tom Sims, Harry O'Farrell, Noah Mraz.
That would be an ideal scenario for us imo.
We would. They have it wrong.
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Thought the same thing.Clearly written by a Tigers fan. Jagga slipping to 7 and Armstrong to 14
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Ashcroft completed his under-18 career with another premiership – his third in a row for the Sandringham Dragons. In the Grand Final, the midfielder finished as he had played just about every other game, with a prolific return of 29 disposals and three goals. It was his third flag of his season, joining wins at school level with Brighton Grammar and Vic Metro in the under-18 championships, and saw him again lift when the big games arrived. He averaged 33 disposals and two goals a game in Sandringham's four-match finals run. Shoulder surgery after the season meant Ashcroft wasn't at the Draft Combine but he is bound for Brisbane as an early pick under father-son rules – where he'll be hoping to emulate brother (and Norm Smith medallist) Will's quick ascent in the AFL.
Recruiters got a good reminder of O'Sullivan's athleticism at the Combine, with the midfielder placing eighth overall for agility (8.136 seconds) and second in the running vertical jump (93cm). Neither would have surprised – his lateral movement is key to his quick-footed approach in the midfield, and his overhead marking can rely on his leap. He also did the 20m sprint in 2.99 seconds and the 2km time trial in 6:28 minutes, marking a strong few days. O'Sullivan's season was hit by different injury issues but he remains a top-flight midfielder in this year's group and a player with high impact. He started the season as a No.1 pick contender and remains it at the end.
Langford's standout result at the Combine was his 2km time trial, when the Dandenong Stingrays midfielder completed the run in 6:24 minutes, placing him inside the top-10. It is a trait reflected in his game, with Langford gut running right to the end of contests. He had a terrific draft campaign, with the marking on-baller dominant at all levels. The left-footer's carnival for Vic Country saw him named a joint winner of the Larke Medal while his Stingrays performances were clinical, averaging more than a goal a game and 26 disposals. Langford's appeal comes in his size, presence, versatility and impact – he will be playing significant AFL footy next year.
Unfortunately a high-grade hamstring injury late in Greater Western Victoria's season ruled Lalor out of the Rebels Grand Final and from testing at the Draft Combine. He was disappointed to miss as he felt he had something to prove with his 2km time trial. Scouts were already well aware of his talents as a powerful, explosive, fending-off midfielder who can just as easily be stationed inside-50 and impact games. That's probably where he will start his AFL career. He likes the physical elements of the game – watch his highlights reel for his tackles and searching for body-on-body moments – and he can also jump and take strong grabs.
The extraction gun. Smith's ability to get his hands on the ball is almost unrivalled in this year's draft – whatever team he is in and whatever level he plays, Smith manages to tally up possessions. That was clear when he played three games for Richmond's VFL side late in the season, averaging 27 disposals across that period. The 18-year-old had some big games for Oakleigh, too, including a 50-disposal effort against the Western Jets and 40 the next week against Calder. His innate footy brain, awareness and appetite for the ball make him a serious player inside this year's top echelon. His standout Combine result was his 6:27 minute 2km time trial.
An ankle injury suffered midway through the Coates Talent League Grand Final meant Reid didn't test at the Draft Combine. There were fears he had also suffered a knee injury in the awkward tackle, but he was all clear on that front, apart from aggravating a muscle problem he had been managing in previous weeks. Reid had continued to show his midfield and half-forward talents through Sandringham's finals series, including a three-goal and 32-disposal game against the Jets in the wildcard round and three goals from 25 disposals against Calder in the qualifying final. Reid finished his season averaging 25 disposals a game and he makes them hurt – finding creative options, opening up space for teammates and directing the play with his ball use.
A back issue kept Draper from competing at the Draft Combine but he still impressed clubs in interviews – his no-nonsense, focused and professional approach showing he is ready to step up to the next level. Truly, clubs have known that for some time. After a bottom-age season where he won just about everything, including being a All-Australian, Draper had a shin stress fracture that ruled him out for most of the first half of 2024. His best run of form came late whilst playing for South Adelaide's league team. He has genuine zip, speed and burst from stoppages and knows how to get the ball in his hands.
A good set of testing results at the Combine completed Smillie's draft campaign. The tall midfielder finished in the top-10 for the standing vertical jump but also did well in the running, finishing the 2km time trial in 6:38 minutes and recording a 3.09 second 20m sprint. Smillie's point of difference – his height and size for a midfielder – has been watched closely by recruiters in the second half of his season. His kicking is good, he takes risks with the ball and has shown he can be a forward threat too.
Tauru had a busy Draft Combine. He had interviews with 17 clubs – everyone wanted a chat with the surging youngster – and he also impressed with his testing, winning the running vertical jump test (94cm), running 3.00 seconds in the 20-metre sprint and 6:36 minutes in the 2km time trial. It came after a strong end to his season with the Gippsland Power, including an exciting qualifying final performance against Dandenong when he swung forward and kicked 2.2 from 16 disposals. A back stress fracture, discovered post-Combine, means he will have a few weeks off before likely being eased into the start of his first pre-season.
Even when Armstrong isn't dominant, he manages to kick goals. The key forward showed that late in the Dragons' campaign, kicking four goals in each of the wildcard round final, the qualifying final and the Grand Final. The straight-kicking left-footer closed the year with 27.10 from 10 games and is still far from the finished product. The 195cm prospect has strong athleticism and finished seventh in the agility test at the Combine and is the best pure key forward in the draft crop.
Travaglia came second in the 2km time trial at the Draft Combine, completing the endurance test in 6:13 minutes. That marries up with his game – his running capacity is a real strength and will see him be able to slot into an AFL side next year. He probably starts as an attacking half-back, whose awareness in the air, closing speed and courage come through. But he could also progress further up the field in time, where his competitiveness and size can also be deployed. Travaglia takes the game on and finished fifth in the Larke Medal voting for the best players in the mid-year carnival.
The Peel Thunder premiership player is right in the frame around the top 10 for this year's draft. After managing some injury issues late in the season, he returned to League level for Peel's preliminary final against Swan Districts, having a run-with role. He kept his spot for the following week's Grand Final and had 11 disposals in the Thunder's win alongside a number of Fremantle-listed AFL players. He backed it up with very good Combine testing – finishing in the top five for the running vertical jump (92cm), standing vertical jump (72cm) and agility (7.94 seconds).
After plenty of three-vote games this season, Lombard also got top honours at the Draft Combine. He won the agility test with a blinding time of 7.812 seconds – fifth fastest in Combine history – and was then second in the 20m sprint (2.851 seconds), which was the sixth fastest in Combine testing. It was the final reminder of Lombard's high-powered game before he officially joins the Suns as an Academy product next month. Gold Coast has moved its picks knowing a bid will come early for the midfielder/forward, whose defensive pressure will also see him be edging for a game early in his debut season.
In trading out their first pick at this year's draft for a future selection and later back-end picks, the Dons have assured they are ready to go wacko for Kako. The electric small forward is a huge talent – he dominated games for the Calder Cannons and was Vic Metro's leading goalkicker at the championships with eight majors. He wants to work on his goalkicking – he kicked 20.24 this season for the Cannons – but produced some magic in there as well. Essendon will have first rights on the Next Generation Academy youngster, who didn't test at the Combine after having ankle surgery.
After undergoing his knee reconstruction earlier this year, Hotton had recent follow-up surgery ahead of his next recovery milestone, which is to return to running. Hotton was tracking towards being a top-10 pick before the injury ended his draft season, but he still might not be far off that point, given his talents as a midfielder/forward. He was best on ground in round two against Oakleigh when he gathered 32 disposals, 10 marks and kicked four goals and he showed he could spin out of trouble and create something from nothing.
That Lindsay can play a bit of everywhere is part of his appeal. But his best form this season was in being a midfielder for the Gippsland Power, where he averaged 23 disposals across 12 games to claim the Morrish Medal as the Coates Talent League's best player. The left-footer makes good decisions with the ball and has a turn of speed when in space. He missed Gippsland's finals series with a PCL knee injury, which also took him out of testing at the Combine.
Trainor sat out testing at the Draft Combine with a hip injury, having missed Sandringham's Grand Final with concussion. The tall defender is always on the attack: he flies for his marks, takes on the game with his kicking and wants to be a penetrating player from defence. He has also shifted forward at times through his draft season.
A small forward who is built for the modern game. Berry can run, he gets up and down the ground, he sets up teammates and he has the killer instinct around goal. He kicked 27 from 14 games for the Bushrangers this season and also led Vic Country during the carnival with nine goals. The crafty left-footer is super smart and precise by foot and reads the game well. Clubs liken him to a Dylan Moore-type of small forward.
Whitlock showed at the Combine he could mix his height with a strong leap, finishing second in the standing vertical jump (75cm) and fifth in the running vertical jump (91cm). Across the year Whitlock proved he could get the ball around the ground and not just inside-50 and he finished with 25 goals from 12 games for the Bushrangers. He leads at the ball carrier and goes for his marks whilst also being a good set-shot kick.
Shanahan knows where the goals are, there's no doubt about that. He kicked 11 goals from three games playing in Essendon's VFL side late in the year and 23.12 in 11 appearances for Bendigo. Included in that were hauls of six against the Bushrangers and five against the Stingrays, with Shanahan able to hit the scoreboard and convert his shots even when he isn't having a big day out. Is efficient and mobile and right among the pack of tall talents around this part of the draft.
An ankle injury ruled Hynes out of testing at the Draft Combine, with the Stingrays talent managing it towards the end of his season. As a forward/midfielder, Hynes has size on his side and plays in a style that uses it – he bustles through packs, breaks out of tackles and has the strength to mark overhead. He booted 23 goals for the Stingrays from 15 games whilst also averaging 24 disposals.
It's not just Levi Ashcroft who is headed for Brisbane's midfield. They have a second gun set to lob. Marshall closed his draft campaign with a brilliant performance in the Coates Talent League Grand Final, where he had 28 disposals and two goals in a rampaging, running masterclass where he was named best afield. Marshall has never had any strife finding the ball and is a top-end runner, so will settle in well once he officially joins Brisbane under Academy rules.
Whitlock has done it at both ends of the ground this year – starting the season as a key defender before changing around to be an impressive forward threat. He kicked 27 goals for the Bushrangers through the season, including eight games of multiple goals. He was in the top-10 at the Draft Combine for the running and standing vertical jumps tests.
Dattoli plays with some swagger and confidence and has the necessary tools to take those traits into the AFL: as a midfielder/forward he takes his chances, has a natural goal sense, reads the play well and dominated in some big games this year. The best of those might have been his late-season run for the Knights, when he had two three-goal games then followed it with a 35-disposal performance against Eastern. Injury kept him from testing at the Combine.
Injury curtailed his first half of the season, with Faull recovering from a back concern, but he returned to show his ability as a tough, competitive goalkicker. His hard running and work ethic has been central to his style and he booted four goals in the qualifying final and then five goals in the preliminary final to help push his side into the Grand Final. He finished his season with 27 goals from 11 games – a prolific output – and placed in the top-10 for the standing vertical jump at the Combine.
The tough, brave and competitive half-back has his fans as a potential first-round pick, such is his influence on games from defence. He can stop opposition forward forays while also creating some play himself and he enjoys locking down on opponents and making them earn every kick. He played a key part in Sandringham's premiership win.
Gross has been most damaging and influential when he splits his time between the midfield and forward line. He bobs up and kicks goals – averaging just under one a game this season – with his best performance coming in the qualifying final when he booted 2.3 from 21 disposals. He's a contested player who enjoys the cut and thrust of getting it in his hands.
There wasn't much of the ball heading Hannaford's way early in the Coates Talent League Grand Final as the Rebels were crushed by Sandringham, so Hannaford moved from attack into the midfield and helped his team get moving. The talented prospect finished with 24 disposals, nine tackles and a goal in an impressive display to finish off a red-hot close to 2024. The quick and robust small forward moved into top-25 contention with his back end of the year, kicking 21 goals in the final nine games.
The leading ruckman in the draft group has locked in on being drafted to the AFL, having also explored a strong junior basketball career. Dodson gets around the ground like a player who wants the ball in his hands, having averaged 24 disposals and 27 hitouts in the final month of Sturt's under-18 season. That came after being named as the All-Australian ruckman from the under-18 carnival for South Australia.
Moraes' running capacity was on show at the Combine, when he completed the 2km time trial in 6:25 minutes, placing him inside the top-10 of all players. It backed up what we've seen from him over the past two years in particular as a hard-working wingman who can get up and down the ground. He's not just that, though, having tallied up an average of 24 disposals this year and 18 goals, including a five-goal haul against the Western Jets late in the season.
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Wreck-Em RalphyClearly written by a Tigers fan. Jagga slipping to 7 and Armstrong to 14
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Plausible but I think its simply the fairest deal.
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