Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ...

1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM
2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM

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[BringFevBack2021]

Ben also has a great leap. Did 96cm at the running jump test at SA testing in Feb. Would have won the combine.

Good he didn't test 

I would love to see some of their aerobic testing. They seem to be everywhere so must run ok but not in the top 10 at the combine 2km or yoyo test at SA testing.

Wowww that’s incredible

I seriously feel the kids are underrated based on the footy I’ve watched

They aren’t top 10 picks but I reckon Ben’s ability puts him in the first round

Admittedly I don’t follow the draft closely most years but Ben has me scratching my head being rated so lowly

 

[macca_74]

Isn't he more of a contested player? If so, doesn't exactly complement our current mid set-up.

From what I’ve seen Jagga seems a good balance b/w inside and outside. Been comparison to N.Daicos so if remotely true that would be a good fit for our midfield imo


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[Sector 7G]

From what I’ve seen Jagga seems a good balance b/w inside and outside. Been comparison to N.Daicos so if remotely true that would be a good fit for our midfield imo


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I don't see it. Doesn't have a penetration kick and doesn't seem afraid of contact.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

If you wanna just start preparing the 'Cody Walker Pick 1 highlights montage' with accompanying soundtrack ...



Then be my guest Noober. Will save you some work in 2026!

Just be sure to get the right era...

 

[reubsblues]

Fos, Smith and Lalor are my preferences in that order. Not counting fs and academy
Any of Fos Smith Lalor Langford and Draper and even Smillie could go 1 or 2 all will play afl next yr
So honestly we can't lose

My top 3 most desired at pick #3 for us, based on our needs are:
-LALOR: I think he is potentially the next Petracca, hits the scoreboard, has an excellent mark over head, burst type player, loves to tackle. Naturally attacking in nature in a Dusty, Petracca guise. Would love to know his 20m sprint time as he didnt enter the combine (thats my only question I would have is sprint speed accuracy). By eye he looks fast in break away speed at Coates level (similar to Petracca, has burst speed but does he have 100m speed?)
-FOS: Has the most upside and x factor. Doesn't need huge high possession games to impact and will learn how to accumulate solely by spending time on the ball with Walsh, Cripps etc. Has a Heeney type set of hands above head, ran a sub 3 sec 20m sprint (Elite Speed) and was top 5 agility. Needs to build some size to compete at AFL level but has all the toys in the bag.
-JAGGA: Daicos mk2, moves just like him. Has a natural ability to rack up possessions and finds the ball at will. Great vision and nous around packs. Has natural elite skills. Size doesn't seem to hinder his performance's.

Same

 

[macca_74]

I don't see it. Doesn't have a penetration kick and doesn't seem afraid of contact.

I can see why people could make the comparison based on his movement and IQ. Unlikely to be as good a kick but good enough.


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[Magruder]

As soon as we float the offer they know we aren't taking Draper and don't give us anything

We have to make noises that we are interested in Draper and hope they initiate

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Also, sounds like a distinct possibility that Tiges offer 6+10 for 2.
Much better deal for North

North should even if it’s for 10 and 11 imo. Get two of Berry, Tauru, Armstrong, Shanahan, Trainor or Travaglia. They’ll have another high pick next year if they still think their midfield isn’t good enough.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

We have to make noises that we are interested in Draper and hope they initiate

We should be interested in Draper.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

We have to make noises that we are interested in Draper and hope they initiate

Just word up Twomey

 

[gbatman]

I would not care about height for midfielders now. Tall midfielders became desirable in the early 2000s, not because being tall is an advantage, it's not, it's because teams began to use zone defence. The more taller players you have in a zone, the better it works was the theory. It's mostly based around that.

During the rolling maul years with huge numbers around the ball, the player getting first hands on the ball was often tackled so being big tall and strong helped a little getting the arms free and a handball away. There's less numbers around the ball and more space on the outside so this is not so important.

Shorter mids are coming back into fashion because of their agility and closing speed. Their ability to chase and run down often being better as well as being able to sidestep and weave throught traffic. These qualities are what we lack.

Speed, agility and a good ability to chase and rundown opposition players as well as being a great natural footballer is who we need to select at number 3. A good all rounder. Height is not important.

 

[T2B_]

I would not care about height for midfielders now. Tall midfielders became desirable in the early 2000s, not because being tall is an advantage, it's not, it's because teams began to use zone defence. The more taller players you have in a zone, the better it works was the theory. It's mostly based around that.

During the rolling maul years with huge numbers around the ball, the player getting first hands on the ball was often tackled so being big tall and strong helped a little getting the arms free and a handball away. There's less numbers around the ball and more space on the outside so this is not so important.

Shorter mids are coming back into fashion because of their agility and closing speed. Their ability to chase and run down often being better as well as being able to sidestep and weave throught traffic. These qualities are what we lack.

Speed, agility and a good ability to chase and rundown opposition players as well as being a great natural footballer is who we need to select at number 3. A good all rounder. Height is not important.

Agreed, and we have a tall midfielder in Cripps who's tall enough for the whole midfield lol

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

We have to make noises that we are interested in Draper and hope they initiate

Yep would be the only way is if they come to us. Even then I think they'd look to north and try to jump us

 

[Bletch]

Which o' these varmints gonna rustle our bull?

Current Pick	Likely Pick	Club	Note
29	32	Port Adelaide	First big chance
30	33	Fremantle	Hope there's a good WA prospect here
31	--	(Essendon)	May get traded back, hope not
32	34	St Kilda	Sweetheart deal?
33	35	Hawthorn	Maybe not a good fit for Hawks
34	--	(Brisbane)	May get traded back, hope not
35	36	Western Bulldogs	Not a good fit/Sweetheart deal
36	37	Port Adelaide	Really big chance
37	38	GWS	Maybe
38	39	Carlton	Phew!

Think Port Adelaide, with two picks in range, are the varmint most likely. Hopefully we can trade 38 ahead of their 36, but I think there's still a possibility they throw in a bid with their earlier pick. They might see Ben as a replacement for Boak/Wines, and as a SA boy, not as worried about the flight risk as other clubs might be.

I'm also hoping as part of the Kennedy deal that there's been a handshake agreement with StK & WB not to put in a bid on Ben.

GWS the second most likely varmint, but if we can get ahead of PA, we get ahead of them too.

Grabbing Brisbane's 34, or possibly Essington's 31 would help, but sadly, I think Brisbane's 27 is a bridge too far. If we can get 34, I'll be happy-ish, and cross fingers and toes when it comes to Port's 29 (~32).

 

[Stamos]

Be astounded if Tiges did that. 6 and 18 or even 6 and 20 maybe. I'd even throw 6+10 for 2+F1 and see if they bite.

The cost to move up at the top end of the draft is huge. The most recent example is Giants trading up from 3 to guarantee Cadman. Cost them 12 + F2, got 53+57 back.

Sure 2 isn’t 1, but they’d be trading up 4 spots instead of 2. And they’re flush with picks. If they want 2 it’ll cost them 10 (or 11 at best).

 

[Juice030103]

I keep watching Draper and I keep seeing red flags with his kicking

Would rather Jagga personally

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

My top 3 most desired at pick #3 for us, based on our needs are:
-LALOR: I think he is potentially the next Petracca, hits the scoreboard, has an excellent mark over head, burst type player, loves to tackle. Naturally attacking in nature in a Dusty, Petracca guise. Would love to know his 20m sprint time as he didnt enter the combine (thats my only question I would have is sprint speed accuracy). By eye he looks fast in break away speed at Coates level (similar to Petracca, has burst speed but does he have 100m speed?)
-FOS: Has the most upside and x factor. Doesn't need huge high possession games to impact and will learn how to accumulate solely by spending time on the ball with Walsh, Cripps etc. Has a Heeney type set of hands above head, ran a sub 3 sec 20m sprint (Elite Speed) and was top 5 agility. Needs to build some size to compete at AFL level but has all the toys in the bag.
-JAGGA: Daicos mk2, moves just like him. Has a natural ability to rack up possessions and finds the ball at will. Great vision and nous around packs. Has natural elite skills. Size doesn't seem to hinder his performance's.

Spot on mate. The Draper hype on here is crazy. These are your best three.

 

[Bletch]

The cost to move up at the top end of the draft is huge. The most recent example is Giants trading up from 3 to guarantee Cadman. Cost them 12 + F2, got 53+57 back.

Sure 2 isn’t 1, but they’d be trading up 4 spots instead of 2. And they’re flush with picks. If they want 2 it’ll cost them 10 (or 11 at best).

Cost us 12 & 14 to get 3. Can't see Tigs wanting to pay more than that. And I see Norf's need greater than Tigs.

If I was Richmond's list mgr, I'd be very happy with what I've got, and would only look at moving up if it's a deal in my favour.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Cost us 12 & 14 to get 3. Can't see Tigs wanting to pay more than that. And I see Norf's need greater than Tigs.

If I was Richmond's list mgr, I'd be very happy with what I've got, and would only look at moving up if it's a deal in my favour.

I don't think you can look at our trade as reflective of what it takes to move up the draft. It was unique due to the baker situation. Doubt you see a top 3 pick go that cheaply again anytime soon.

 

[Sector 7G]

I would not care about height for midfielders now. Tall midfielders became desirable in the early 2000s, not because being tall is an advantage, it's not, it's because teams began to use zone defence. The more taller players you have in a zone, the better it works was the theory. It's mostly based around that.

During the rolling maul years with huge numbers around the ball, the player getting first hands on the ball was often tackled so being big tall and strong helped a little getting the arms free and a handball away. There's less numbers around the ball and more space on the outside so this is not so important.

Shorter mids are coming back into fashion because of their agility and closing speed. Their ability to chase and run down often being better as well as being able to sidestep and weave throught traffic. These qualities are what we lack.

Speed, agility and a good ability to chase and rundown opposition players as well as being a great natural footballer is who we need to select at number 3. A good all rounder. Height is not important.

Small mids are fine as long as they are not slow and/or lightly built. Why SPS and Fisher weren't able to make it

 

[AndyLucimitis]

I keep watching Draper and I keep seeing red flags with his kicking

Would rather Jagga personally

Gee watching The Bombs highlights - Jagga Smith looks like exactly what we need - pace and 'fast movement'.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Interesting on Gettable that Cal Twomey suggested that Richmond were most likely keen on Lalor, O’Sullivan then Langford, with Smith only a maybe at pick 1.

I’d be quite happy for Smith to make it to pick 3. I think he could help transform our transition footy game.


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[Sector 7G]

I don't think you can look at our trade as reflective of what it takes to move up the draft. It was unique due to the baker situation. Doubt you see a top 3 pick go that cheaply again anytime soon.

It also reflects that this is seen as a deep draft with great players available in the teens and first early rounders that I am not sure are particularly special. While it is a fairly uneducated opinion, I would prefer McKercher/Reid than the players on offer in this years draft. So is the top end really all that special? Torn on whether we should have traded up this year.

 

[gbatman]

Holes in the middle and up forward. I think we will be hoping that 1 plugs two.

Strengthen both areas, improve forward mid rotations. I feel we will be looking at this with our pick.

 

[goreds]

From what to what??

From other to FOS...

I do not rate anyone outside of ten in any draft. It's a lottery.

Once we got inside 5, the quality is there!