Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who will be our first selection on night 2 of the Draft?


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Austin has said the club is looking for speed and run which suggests that Draper and FOS are in our sights.

But Langford is an interesting proposition - he would definitely lift the standard of forward entries to our key forwards with his penetrating kicks and generate more goal scoring opportunities for H and CC.

I wonder if Austin is welded to the idea that the player must have super sonic speed. If he thinks Langford is the next Bontempelli then I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls out Langfords name on Wed.
That Pommy guy on YouTube made a point about Austin that in the past when he was at the Dogs and Tigers, that the players that were linked to go for their picks was a smokescreen to who Austin actually wanted so could this apply to us selecting Langford?

It’s in this video

 

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Geez you’re a bit sensitive pulling out the champ comment. But that’s cool.

It’s not rude that I think seeing Draper play live isn’t the same as YouTube clips. I’d say it’s a fair comment.

You don’t like when people don’t view Draper the same as you and you’ve made your point known on plenty of occasions. We all know who you prefer and I have no issue with that nor do I want to change your mind.

My views are my views and from my time seeing him play, again, I don’t think he is a pick 3. Would I be upset if we took him, no, but I’d hope we don’t 👍
I am with Walshy HCJ. I watched the games that are being spoken of, back two years. I am an unabashed Draper fan and have always had him ahead of FOS as the two have been somewhat paralleling each other. Both had slowish returns from injury, but Draper built consistently until his stellar finish to the season against men.

I just see him (in short) as the best extractor in the group, as well as the best defensively (Jagga in that discussion)

If not for concerns raised over his back, I would be “screaming his praises”. I will not knock the other boys as there are some real talents there but only have Sid and Jagga as genuine mids. The other three in this discussion are IMO hybrid types who perhaps enter the terminology of “strikers” a little more.

I find it difficult to understand strong negative comments on any of the group, particularly Draper.

People are listing preferences
For Carlton.
Draper (injury dependent)
Smith
Lalor (will be gone)
O’Sullivan (I relate to questions on commitment to work, easy enough for a kid to turn around)
Langford (love aspects, and we could use his skills, but that yard of pace lacking excludes him to joining our mix)
 
l believe you are going to be disappointed we won't be trading pick 3
How does Smillie help us, we have Cripps.

Agreed. Not sure we get rid of slower mids like Carroll and Kennedy just to draft Smillie.

I don't really get how FOS is rated higher than Draper. He really hasn't put in anywhere near the same level of performances.

Draper looks like possibly the safest bet in the draft. Speed, kicking and high pos numbers every time he plays. FOS only ticks 2 of those boxes.
 
No need to worry Dirty, reckon Austin has done a magnificent job to get us up to three.

Now he is just eagerly waiting to see who drops to us. We should end up with one of Jagga or FOS imo.

Jagga might be the safer pick and I do really like him. FOS has the so called x-factor and star quality.

With Owies now gone, I think Finn could make an immediate impact. Mainly up forward, with some midfield minutes.

Motlop and Durdin have shown glimpses, but have been unlucky with injuries so far. FOS could easily play round one as a

small forward and if he has a good run could end up kicking 30 goals. Would provide a nice point of difference to Harry,

Charlie, Zac, Fog and Kemp/JSOS.

Of course Jagger would be great in our midfield, maybe allowing Walsh to play on a wing. Ollie looks good at half back.

Five days to go, bring it on.
Thanks Sweetie!!!

Most reassuring, there is no SOS private school, nice boy bias. Agreed that Jagga would be the most likely, although the Hun is reporting that The Laides are courting the Kangas for pick two, therefore FOS is a no brainer.....having said that...
 
I can’t believe this thread has hit “I know more about draftees than you” territory.
Having read all of the posts so far I believe that we will pass on pick 3 as according to this thread all in contention have glaring weaknesses and limited redeeming features.

Apparently we'll just straight move on to pick #38.
 
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That Pommy guy on YouTube made a point about Austin that in the past when he was at the Dogs and Tigers, that the players that were linked to go for their picks was a smokescreen to who Austin actually wanted so could this apply to us selecting Langford?

It’s in this video


Thanks CTG9. Will be a hard decision, they all look great in a Carlton jumper!

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For those criticising Drapers disposal it is worth remembering hes been playing in the middle against men (for a rubbish team too).

His touches would be under significantly more pressure then the vic kids. Even Jagga, as good as his vfl games were, wasnt very tidy in those games. Much cleaner in under 18s. Makes a difference.
 
Have any of the ITK posters given us an idea of who we’re likely to take yet?
Some vague references. I believe we’ve
been on the Sullivan train for a while now - but the club will be doing its due diligence because there’s no guarantee he will be available or preferred if other clubs’s selections don’t go as expected.
 
I am with Walshy HCJ. I watched the games that are being spoken of, back two years. I am an unabashed Draper fan and have always had him ahead of FOS as the two have been somewhat paralleling each other. Both had slowish returns from injury, but Draper built consistently until his stellar finish to the season against men.

I just see him (in short) as the best extractor in the group, as well as the best defensively (Jagga in that discussion)

If not for concerns raised over his back, I would be “screaming his praises”. I will not knock the other boys as there are some real talents there but only have Sid and Jagga as genuine mids. The other three in this discussion are IMO hybrid types who perhaps enter the terminology of “strikers” a little more.

I find it difficult to understand strong negative comments on any of the group, particularly Draper.

People are listing preferences
For Carlton.
Draper (injury dependent)
Smith
Lalor (will be gone)
O’Sullivan (I relate to questions on commitment to work, easy enough for a kid to turn around)
Langford (love aspects, and we could use his skills, but that yard of pace lacking excludes him to joining our mix)
No issues with yours or anyone’s opinions. I do think it’s off the mark to be called champ or stating I’m rude. That shit is childish.

All I’ve stated is I have read people saying Draper will be a great fit for next year and others might be a slower burn. And that I don’t think Draper is pick 3 worthy.

Totally don’t understand the angst if someone doesn’t agree with another opinion on here. Well I do, but geez!!!

It’s great Walsh and yourself want Draper and it also should be fine if I or others don’t think he isn’t worthy. And I’m not basing it off just YouTube clips. Have seen Draper play numerous times.
 
That Pommy guy on YouTube made a point about Austin that in the past when he was at the Dogs and Tigers, that the players that were linked to go for their picks was a smokescreen to who Austin actually wanted so could this apply to us selecting Langford?
I agree with this.

In fact, I even think Austin is going too far and to over the top and extreme lengths in his trying to push a false narrative to the media…

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Have any of the ITK posters given us an idea of who we’re likely to take yet?
The big one was Yazz on 12 October who had news of pick swap before anyone, and who said draft target 1 was Lalor, and then Finn O'Sullivan, but that club would be happy with either - plus lots of discussion internally.
 
Live, videos, highlights/full games, interviews, speaking with family, friends, teachers, junior coaches, etc, etc

Majority of us here are able to do the bolded, so it will always be limited, but isn't that what we do when we watch our games and debate the value of a player?

I actually think the top 6 of this year is slightly down on talent compared to the last handful of drafts, so I believe there are limitations with that pointy end group

Will be very interesting to see who we select
 

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