Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

More I think about it, Draper has Jack Steven traits

Let's hope without the gambling and wizz fizz addictions

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

You think Jagga Smith is vanilla?

Vanilla probably the wrong adjective, but he certainly doesn't have the same impact with ball in hand that some of the others do

 

[JuddgementDay]

Vanilla probably the wrong adjective, but he certainly doesn't have the same impact with ball in hand that some of the others do

And what’s wrong with Vanilla anyways?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

And what’s wrong with Vanilla anyways?

We've already got Vanilla... need to add some topping

 

[FlowersByIrene]

When deciding on who we pick I think a large part of it will be how our midfield looks in 4-5 years... Obviously next years impact is also critical but the future is still a priority.

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Lalor

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, FOS

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Draper

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smith

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Smillie

Walsh, Cerra, Lord, Walker, Langford

To me looking at those, once Cripps is gone we really lack that POD type outside of Cody Walker. Adding Smith is one that sticks out as a bit too vanilla to me.
High class talent but we may run into the same issue we face today with too much likeness across the midfield mix in that projected group.

Langford and Smillie look better in that group but once again, I'm not going near them as long as we have Cripps and Hewett. They'd have to play other roles until those two finish up imo.

Think to me the first 3 are still the best options, Jagga may be just as good next year or even better than the others, but looking ahead I think FOS, Lalor and Draper provide what we need most.

We need to win a premiership with Patrick Cripps - that is the absolute priority. A post Cripps world is not even worth thinking of. Imagine the free agents we'd be able to target in a post-Cripps world after we've won a premiership.

I firmly believe we need to pick the player that will make the most impact in the next 1-3 seasons. Now thankfully any player that can make an impact immediately can also make an impact long term so I don't think it's short sighted to target immediate impact. In fact the opposite I think it could be short sighted to target a development player knowing that they may not contribute to a premiership in our window.

If Cripps retires or phases out of the midfield in 3-4 years time we could go out and target any midfield free agent we wanted. Think a Zak Butters who comes out of contract as a free agent at 2026, Matt Rowell OOC 2025 not as a free agent but as a trade opportunity, Noah Anderson or Caleb Serong, OOC 2027 as a free agent - the list goes on from there, Tom Green, Sam Flanders, Chad Warner start to become gettable.

History shows us with Bailey Smith, Adam Treloar, Tom Mitchell, Josh Dunkley, Tim Taranto, Adam Cerra etc there are always chances to land quality first-team midfielders each and every year. That's not including the less successful ones but who would have seemed like quality midfielders at the time like Taylor Adams, Dylan Shiel, Jacob Hopper etc.

If we become premiership winning Carlton, the doors open up so much. We can top up, use our brand to attract players. We need to do everything to win a premiership within the next three years.

 

[TerryWallet]

As a club with upcoming academy, and F/S prospects over the next two years … we’d want to play nice when it comes to bidding.

That's why i'm really only worried about Freo bidding on Ben Campo with their 30's pick. There will be plenty there still seething about SOS's bid on Liam Henry before expectations and wanting a little payback. I'm just hoping young Wallsy still has a soft spot for us.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

We need to win a premiership with Patrick Cripps - that is the absolute priority. A post Cripps world is not even worth thinking of. Imagine the free agents we'd be able to target in a post-Cripps world after we've won a premiership.

I firmly believe we need to pick the player that will make the most impact in the next 1-3 seasons. Now thankfully any player that can make an impact immediately can also make an impact long term so I don't think it's short sighted to target immediate impact. In fact the opposite I think it could be short sighted to target a development player knowing that they may not contribute to a premiership in our window.

If Cripps retires or phases out of the midfield in 3-4 years time we could go out and target any midfield free agent we wanted. Think a Zak Butters who comes out of contract as a free agent at 2026, Matt Rowell OOC 2025 not as a free agent but as a trade opportunity, Noah Anderson or Caleb Serong, OOC 2027 as a free agent - the list goes on from there, Tom Green, Sam Flanders, Chad Warner start to become gettable.

History shows us with Bailey Smith, Adam Treloar, Tom Mitchell, Josh Dunkley, Tim Taranto, Adam Cerra etc there are always chances to land quality first-team midfielders each and every year. That's not including the less successful ones but who would have seemed like quality midfielders at the time like Taylor Adams, Dylan Shiel, Jacob Hopper etc.

If we become premiership winning Carlton, the doors open up so much. We can top up, use our brand to attract players. We need to do everything to win a premiership within the next three years.

Yes which makes me happy with any of the top 4 mids. Lalor, Finn, Jagga and Draper will all impact in the next two seasons. Can’t lose.

 

[SurreyBlue]

You think Jagga Smith is vanilla?

Agree. Nothing of the sort.

 

[GT619]

You think Jagga Smith is vanilla?

 

[GT619]

More I think about it, Draper has Jack Steven traits

is that a good thing or bad thing

 

[Red Bull]

Reckon North should accept Saints trade offer :

1.Richmond - Lalor
2.Brisbane - Ashcroft
3.St.Kilda - Smith
4.Carlton - O’Sullivan
5.Adelaide - Draper
6.Melbourne - Langford
7.Richmond - Smillie
8.North - Tauru
9.St.Kilda - Reid
10.Melbourne - Armstrong

*North now hold Saints 2025 1st pick

 

[AT97]

Ison being added, Walker is still the only real xfactor mid/forward, so I understand the interest in Lalor and or FOS

I still wouldn't be disappointed in Langford (Dawson like) as he adds a unique POD, or Smith or Draper despite being more pure mids do have burst/pace

Perhaps we look at a POD type at pick 38, or target that type next trade period

 

[Arr0w]

is that a good thing or bad thing

Could be both. Has burst at stoppages is unlike any other in this draft, his long kicking could an advantage but also his weakness is he can't spot up shorter targets