Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[Pablito]

Do they each take the top bunk in tandem?

 

[ferrisb]

Would this be the most hilariously strong midfield in history?

O.Hollands Cerra Walsh
Dekoning Reid Walker

E.Hollands Silvagni Cottrell Lord

Cripps gotta win a 3rd brownlow to get a game???

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Cripps gotta win a 3rd brownlow to get a game???

He'll need a walking stick by then.

 

[GoBlues!]

Wasn't Samo rated as the #1 kid as a 16yo?

Good pick up 4flags. He blitzed them in NAB AFL Under-16 championships in 2014 and was considered an early candidate to be the No. 1 pick in 2016.

“There was a genuine buzz about Petrevski-Seton after the carnival. His three games on the Gold Coast that week left recruiters stunned. The way he weaved through traffic, tackled, took marks, kicked goals and did everything with a level of class and poise made him a clear standout.

"He's the best kid I've ever seen at that age," one senior AFL recruiter thought to himself. Another said the midfielder/half-forward could have been drafted that year – as a 16-year-old two years before he was eligible – and still have been selected in the top-10.”

Part one: The making of Sam Petrevski-Seton

GOING PLACES: The making of outback cowboy Sam Petrevski-Seton

www.lions.com.au

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Good pick up 4flags. He blitzed them in NAB AFL Under-16 championships in 2014 and was considered an early candidate to be the No. 1 pick in 2016.

“There was a genuine buzz about Petrevski-Seton after the carnival. His three games on the Gold Coast that week left recruiters stunned. The way he weaved through traffic, tackled, took marks, kicked goals and did everything with a level of class and poise made him a clear standout.

"He's the best kid I've ever seen at that age," one senior AFL recruiter thought to himself. Another said the midfielder/half-forward could have been drafted that year – as a 16-year-old two years before he was eligible – and still have been selected in the top-10.”

Part one: The making of Sam Petrevski-Seton

GOING PLACES: The making of outback cowboy Sam Petrevski-Seton

www.lions.com.au

Why is that article on the Brisbane lions website lol?

 

[BluStreak]

Heres a out there thought. Carlton trade pick 38 for Norths first 2025 pick
According to Cal T, North are looking to get back into the draft earlier than their second pick at 62.

 

[Coops93]

I don't think Hawthorn has any regrets selecting Luke Hodge at #1:

• 4× AFL premiership player: 2008, 2013–2015
• 3× AFL premiership captain: 2013–2015
• 2× Norm Smith Medal: 2008, 2014
• 3× All-Australian team: 2005, 2008, 2010 (c)
• Hawthorn captain: 2011–2016
• 2× Peter Crimmins Medal: 2005, 2010
• AFLPA best captain award: 2014
• AFLPA Madden Medal: 2019

Spare a thought for Fremantle - wtf were they thinking trading pick 1 to Hawthorn for Trent Croad and Luke McPharlin.

Didn't say they made the wrong pick just that Judd was the no.1 pick but slipped slightly due to injury. Hawks would be more than happy, but that's beside the point.

 

[Coops93]

Disagree, you can make that argument for the majority of draft "failures" then.

So he didn't drop? Meaning a highly touted junior who didn't show his best form in his u18 year was taken as a priority by GC based on earlier form, didn't become a star in the league.

Kinda proves my point.

His form didn't drop in his final year prior to draft.

 

[branedotorg]

Robert Shaws gift to *. Convinced Dodoro to pick him off the back of school footy connection.

high floor and leadership potential - he's the VC but in a similar boat to Gibbs was, when we were shit, not playing as highly as expected and made a leader before knowing how to lead.

Gibbs ended up a much better player the McGrath has so far though, although i don't think either were great picks in hindsight.

 

[FoeverBlues]

He did make the A.A. team (on the bench ) in 2015. I've just had a look at that team, apart from Weitering it is terrible. The attack was lead by Francis and Schache in the year that Harry and Charlie were drafted. Here is the team;

O'Kearney, K.Collins, Hipwood
J.Berry, Weitering, Bonner
Keays, Hopper, K. Lovell
Parish, Francis, Balic
Ainsworth, Schache, Gresham,
Nguon, Mathieson, Partington,
I/C, Allison, Belling, Parfitt, SPS

Good effort by SOS to pick the eyes out of the draft that year. It's a pity he remembered SPS the following.

Parish, Francis

 

[FlowersByIrene]

high floor and leadership potential - he's the VC but in a similar boat to Gibbs was, when we were shit, not playing as highly as expected and made a leader before knowing how to lead.

Gibbs ended up a much better player the McGrath has so far though, although i don't think either were great picks in hindsight.

I think Bryce Gibbs was a very very good pick all things considered. Who else would you have taken from this draft - besides the obvious Joel Selwood. Travis Boak is the only one who comes close and I think Gibbs' peak was better. Scott Gumbleton, Lach Hansen, Leunberger, Thorp, Ben Reid, Armitage, Nathan Brown round out the top 10.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think Bryce Gibbs was a very very good pick all things considered. Who else would you have taken from this draft - besides the obvious Joel Selwood. Travis Boak is the only one who comes close and I think Gibbs' peak was better. Scott Gumbleton, Lach Hansen, Leunberger, Thorp, Ben Reid, Armitage, Nathan Brown round out the top 10.

That was touted to be a super draft. Funny how things work out. Pretty much every club takes Gibbs 1 that year including Geelong so hard to class it as a mistake. Also, I think if you put Gibbs into Geelongs or Ports system he would have been a multi time all australian. At least as good as boak. Maybe not Selwood.

 

[Pablito]

His form didn't drop in his final year prior to draft.

As in his u18 year or his u17 year? He was drafted at the end of his u17 year.

 

[noobermensch]

Not sure if this fella is in play at 3 or not, but you might be keen to get a fuller picture of what's available in the range.

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After the first half of the season Josh Smillie was flying high as most people's pick 1 favourite due to his massive frame, slick movement in traffic, clean hands, penetrating boot and ability to consistently hit the scoreboard. After a quieter than anticipated champs series Smillie lost some form through the back half of the season which has seen him slide down the boards. If his early season play is more indicative of what we can expect from Josh in the future then a team picking him in the middle or back end of the top 10 will be getting a bargain.

 

[BigFrizz36]

As in his u18 year or his u17 year? He was drafted at the end of his u17 year.

You do realise that in 2013 when he had already been drafted he was too young to be able to play AFL he played in the NEAFL league (in effect their reserves team at the time) and was selected in the Northern Conference team of the year on a wing. That was his top age year playing against men.

Malcolm Blight called him the best young player he had seen. It's a complete fallacy to say that he had a poor top age year in an attempt to make case against FOS.

As mentioned his problems started in his first AFL game when he hurt his knee and was out for 11 games.

 

[Pablito]

You do realise that in 2013 when he had already been drafted he was too young to be able to play AFL he played in the NEAFL league (in effect their reserves team at the time) and was selected in the Northern Conference team of the year on a wing. That was his top age year playing against men.

Malcolm Blight called him the best young player he had seen. It's a complete fallacy to say that he had a poor top age year in an attempt to make case against FOS.

As mentioned his problems started in his first AFL game when he hurt his knee and was out for 11 games.

Said that based off tapes from his previous year. You're objectively wrong.
AFL legends' huge raps on Suns' Jack - https://www.afl.com.au/news/450200

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Ben Campo is another one I think we're underrating a bit on here. Was talked up as a potential Top 10-20 pick in his underage year, winning some accolades in his U17 year alongside Sid Draper.

This year the talk has died down, he's played less, and his draft stocks have fallen. It's hard to say with certainty exactly what the combination of factors is, was he overrated in his U17 year as a big name and put up draft board, or is he pushed down the draft boards as an U18 with people knowing he's locked away to us, so people put less time into him (and we may have told him not to go out and sell himself too hard).

It touches on some of the discussion above re FOS, Samo and others on under age form and how it translates. Is Ben Campo in the same camp? Or was his lower profile this year manufactured / indifference from the draft watchers. Either way, if we can select him after Pick #38 I think we'll get a bargain, and maybe in there will be a top 10-20 range midfielder if we're lucky.

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Not sure if this fella is in play at 3 or not, but you might be keen to get a fuller picture of what's available in the range.

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After the first half of the season Josh Smillie was flying high as most people's pick 1 favourite due to his massive frame, slick movement in traffic, clean hands, penetrating boot and ability to consistently hit the scoreboard. After a quieter than anticipated champs series Smillie lost some form through the back half of the season which has seen him slide down the boards. If his early season play is more indicative of what we can expect from Josh in the future then a team picking him in the middle or back end of the top 10 will be getting a bargain.

Out of everyone I have seen I've got some doubt about each one of them, but not Smillie, he is the perfect match for us imo.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Said that based off tapes from his previous year. You're objectively wrong.
AFL legends' huge raps on Suns' Jack - https://www.afl.com.au/news/450200

Just check whether he made the NEAFL team (Northern Conference) playing against men in his top age year in 2013. It kind of blows your "he had a poor top end year theory " out of the water.

You are dead set wrong.

 

[TheBlueCampaigner]

IMO Jagga is the number one player in this draft including Ashcroft. He will make us look very silly if we don't take him.

I just can’t get past those twig arms. He doesn’t look like he could step straight in and play against men and his frame doesn’t look conducive to weight training. I guess Skinny Lappin made it work.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Ben Campo is another one I think we're underrating a bit on here. Was talked up as a potential Top 10-20 pick in his underage year, winning some accolades in his U17 year alongside Sid Draper.

This year the talk has died down, he's played less, and his draft stocks have fallen. It's hard to say with certainty exactly what the combination of factors is, was he overrated in his U17 year as a big name and put up draft board, or is he pushed down the draft boards as an U18 with people knowing he's locked away to us, so people put less time into him (and we may have told him not to go out and sell himself too hard).

It touches on some of the discussion above re FOS, Samo and others on under age form and how it translates. Is Ben Campo in the same camp? Or was his lower profile this year manufactured / indifference from the draft watches. Either way, if we can select him after Pick #38 I think we'll get a bargain, and maybe in there will be a top 10-20 range midfielder if we're lucky.

Ben actually wasn't that highly rated as a bottom ager. Improved as the year went on then won that BOG on grand final day which shot him right up calculations.

Was in 10-20 range after that and stayed there until probably after the national champs where he was AA and SA MVP. Slid from there.

Think it's a combination of things. 1) He barely played a game after the champs 2) He didnt get any exposure at SANFL senior level (nobody cares about SA under 18s) 3) He was always going to Carlton so less work done on him 4) He's doesn't have the exciting athletic traits of other high touted prospects (perceived upside)

Yes his kicking is an opportunity but I think that's a small part of the reason he slid.

Genuinely think it's nuts he is rated outside 30 (good for the club though)

 

[reubsblues]

I think Jagga is just as fast as Draper, but tends to think through the contest before using his speed. Hence his superior accumulation and disposal efficiency. This is why I have Jagga ahead of Draper. Draper on the other hand is all gas no brakes. It is absolutely breathtaking when it works. Full credit to him, he's been effective at it in every level of footy he's played so far, but I do think he'll need to adjust his game at AFL level and there's a risk that he won't be as damaging.

Exactly right look at all the best players in the comp Cripps Neale Bont Merrett Pendle
None are straight line fast but all have fast lateral movement fast awareness and most of all fast football brains
This is what Smith and Fos have over Draper and the reason there my first preferences

 

[bradfisher14]

I just can’t get past those twig arms. He doesn’t look like he could step straight in and play against men and his frame doesn’t look conducive to weight training. I guess Skinny Lappin made it work.

I rest my case, your honour.

 

[Opium]

Langford isn't quick over 20, but once in stride, most players don't get a hold of him and his evasiveness certainly helps in this area

Exceptional hands, vision, disposal, beast overhead and safe shot at goal

What's more impressive, he is already mature beyond his years, knowing his strengths / limitations and working well within his lane

Really is a Dawson clone, what's not to like about this kid

He would be my pick at pick 3. We're crying out for elite kicks. Langford is a great kick and brilliant overhead and has a great engine to build on.

Could be the best out of this draft.