Autopsy 2024 Rd 5 Blundering Blues give game away to Crows

[Juice030103]

Given we haven’t beaten much and chucked away game against a side that was otherwise winless would you accept we are, at best, a 6th to 8th side?

Gee that’s a little dramatic given the outs we had

Sydney lost to Richmond and Melbourne lost to Brisbane at home

Sides have bad games. 1 loss doesn’t make us 6th to 8th

 

[blakebeausoleil]

Absolutely, but that's where I see our range, is that an unreasonable assessment?

sure, but it's not exactly going out on a limb or particuarly descriptive in terms of how good we are. It's like saying we might be really good or we might be slightly above average. Do you think we should be closer to 13 or 16 wins? Personally I'd consider 13 wins a disaster

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Fantasia won't be in our premiership team.

Shouldn’t be in our round 6 team…..

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Crows were actually pretty decent last week vs Melbourne for large portions of the game

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Imagine if papley did come over that year
I’m bullish on durdin

This is what I'm talking about. Papley is a genius at reading the ball off packs. We don't have that at the moment, and I'm not entirely sure we have it on our list. Motlop can but not at speed like Papley. He's almost Rod Ashman-like quality at that aspect.

 

[Benaly28]

We are too Charlie and Harry conscious.

We lack that third tall that everyone talks about but our delivery inside 50 tonight was horrible.


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[Jimmyonesix]

I bet no one would have had us 4 and 1 after 5 games, no one

What you have us after next 8?

 

[Abers]

Gee that’s a little dramatic given the outs we had

Sydney lost to Richmond and Melbourne lost to Brisbane at home

Sides have bad games. 1 loss doesn’t make us 6th to 8th

I don’t think its dramatic at all, we have played two good quarters all year, we are riddled with injuries, I’d be shocked if we finished above 7th.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

McKay and Curnow are the difference between us being top 4 and bottom 4.

I wouldn’t go that far.

But if you take two of the games best players and KPF out of any side you could make the same point. Cats without Hawkins and Cameron would be terrible too.

 

[Arr0w]

sure, but it's not exactly going out on a limb or particuarly descriptive in terms of how good we are. It's like saying we might be really good or we might be slightly above average. Do you think we should be closer to 13 or 16 wins?

Nothing to do with going out on a limb, it's about the realism of what I see this side is capable of achieving

 

[Opium]

Voss talks about moments.

Forget how many goals and marks we missed, the game changed when Zac/Kemp couldn’t kill that ball in the pocket.

Owies walks into an open goal-Misses.

Cottrell/Hollands 2 on 1 late 40 out drops the mark.

Moments are the difference between winning and losing.


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I would say our defence lost us the game. Far too many inside 50 marks given up to the opposition. We won't beat many sides playing like that. If you want to lay blame look squarely at the vice captain.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

That is an issue because suspect he was more brought in to be that goalscoring half forward, we already quite similar mid fields types to E Hollands.

He’s a young mid with massive upside, clearly has more time in traffic than most, beautiful by foot - who cost us nothing.

I think we lucked out.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Funny how the posters who pop up after a loss are mysteriously absent every other day of the year...

 

[Accidental genius]

I would say our defence lost us the game. Far too many inside 50 marks given up to the opposition. We won't beat many sides playing like that. If you want to lay blame look squarely at the vice captain.

Yes and No imo.

Crows rebounded fast and furiously into our d50...not a real lot our defenders could have done.

Yes some suspect plays but overall they were simply inundated.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Voss talks about moments.

Forget how many goals and marks we missed, the game changed when Zac/Kemp couldn’t kill that ball in the pocket.

Owies walks into an open goal-Misses.

Cottrell/Hollands 2 on 1 late 40 out drops the mark.

Moments are the difference between winning and losing.


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Zac/Kemp get that ball over the line and we win… We were 3goals up

 

[blakebeausoleil]

Nothing to do with going out on a limb, it's about the realism of what I see this side is capable of achieving

Okay, so by judging your prediction would it be fair to say you would consider Carlton a very fringe premiership contender? I'm sorry if you've answered this elsewhere I'm not often on these boards

 

[Opium]

Pittonet is awful. His first instinct of a ruck contest is to put his arm around the opposition's waist.
More interested in defending than attacking.

Liability. Should not get another game unless tdk in injured

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I don't think any side will have it their own way for the season

Momentum is massive in a game, as well as in a season

We, like most pointy end sides will need to adapt

I'm not sure you addressed anything I said there. You did ask me to dissect.

 

[Abers]

Funny how the posters who pop up after a loss are mysteriously absent every other day of the year...

Probably cause they don’t need the internet to enjoy a win.

 

[LastGanginTown]

Replacing Cerra with Pittonet is a fairly arrogant call to make. No respect to the opposition

And on Pitto, what on earth do they see in him?

I really hope that was the "loss we needed" because there's a lot of complacency out there right now.

Our small forwards are lazy and ineffective. Allowed their men to waltz past them in attack all night. Horrid

Not sure the small forwards are lazy, rather than not understanding positioning. Late in the last there was a shot on goal from outside 50 and Durds was on the goal line with the KPFs.. Surely you’re positioned 15 metres infront to rove a potential spoil goal side?

 

[macky99]

Issues for me that need to be corrected for us to challenge later this year

ONE ruck with McKay supporting.
Ball use inside forward 50. Need to be a lot smarter and look for best option.
Clearances. Dropped off badly since last year
Injuries. Hurting us badly. NO side can win a flag with a long injury list

Problem is none of the small forwards we have can take a mark, and are not strong lead up forwards, Martin can help but how many games will we get out of him.

 

[GoBlues!]

We are too Charlie and Harry conscious.

We lack that third tall that everyone talks about but our delivery inside 50 tonight was horrible.


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Our small forwards don’t crumb and kick enough goals. They didn’t really apply pressure to keep the ball on the forward line today.

Missed Fogarty today for forward line pressure and goal assists.

 

[Abers]

Not sure the small forwards are lazy, rather than not understanding positioning. Late in the last there was a shot on goal from outside 50 and Durds was on the goal line with the KPFs.. Surely you’re positioned 15 metres infront to rove a potential spoil goal side?

The amount times one the smalls was the deepest forward was staggering.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Probably cause they don’t need the internet to enjoy a win.

Of course, they only need it when they feel the need to act like a petulant child.

 

[Abers]

Of course, they only need it when they feel the need to act like a petulant child.

Yeah being frustrated at a bad loss makes us all petulant children.