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$27.1k in the bank

To trade or not to trade 🤔

On the table
Fisher > Berry
Gibcus > Mass

Is Berry a must have for cash gen?

Or would it be smarter to wait for dempsey next week and give Fisher another chance (and also wait a week on Mass)
 

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Like any good self-respecting tradeaholic, I will be boosting this week.

Thinking the following. Any thoughts?

Gibcus > Massimo
Hustwaite > S. Berry
Fisher > Reid

Need to probably find a way to get Owens > Flanders after his bye.
S.Berry is a waste
 
S.Berry is a waste

I'm sort of hoping that Hustwaite gets named this week. Every year we always seem to get that one rookie where we all anticipate will be named for round 1 then for some reason they're not. Then they come in Round 2 and start killing it then everyone is scrambling to trade them in.

Why do you think S. Berry is a waste out of interest?
 
How is Hustwaite in people team's?

Surely when he was not named for the Hawks he would have been removed from your team.

You're now wasting a trade to get rid of him.
 
Is Heeney a must have? Feel like when Mills, Parker, Adams come back his midfield time is gone

Long post straight ahead :)

I think that Parker will be playing 70/30 fwd/mid. He looked shot at the back end of last year, turns 32 this year and will only attend CBAs and get mid time in case of emergency IMO.

Mills is mostly an outside mid, even if he goes in the guts he will be in more of a receiver role. IMO he might also rotate between wing/half back with Jordon given he is coming back from a busted shoulder. Won’t be back until byes.

Adams is the most likely out of the 3 to be an inside mid and I think worse case he will take some CPs from Heeney each game but not his overall possessions.

IMO Heeney will spend more time in the midfield as it frees up Warner and Gulden and makes our midfield more dynamic.

Last year, for reasons only known to Horse, Heeney was playing a defensive forward scrubber role which now looks to be covered by McInerney at ground level and Fox in the air. IMO he was also playing hurt last year.

We’ve seen this movie before with Horse. He made Ryan OKeefe a full time mid in his late 20s after spending most of his career at HF.

He only burnt people in 2020 because he broke a thumb in the preseason, then did his medial ligament. Even though he averaged 94 in the 6 games he played.

In 2021 he was flying until he broke his hand and came back way too early and lost his touch.
Even if Heeney does go back forward, we will average 95-100 like he has most of the last 7-8 years. Even as a forward he only needs 15-20 touches to ton up.

He won’t keep up this output but I think if he plays a full season he is still comfortably a top 6 forward.

TLDR version:
Bugger your bye structure, get him in your team now. If you don’t you have a Peeney chol
 
Long post straight ahead :)

I think that Parker will be playing 70/30 fwd/mid. He looked shot at the back end of last year, turns 32 this year and will only attend CBAs and get mid time in case of emergency IMO.

Mills is mostly an outside mid, even if he goes in the guts he will be in more of a receiver role. IMO he might also rotate between wing/half back with Jordon given he is coming back from a busted shoulder. Won’t be back until byes.

Adams is the most likely out of the 3 to be an inside mid and I think worse case he will take some CPs from Heeney each game but not his overall possessions.

IMO Heeney will spend more time in the midfield as it frees up Warner and Gulden and makes our midfield more dynamic.

Last year, for reasons only known to Horse, Heeney was playing a defensive forward scrubber role which now looks to be covered by McInerney at ground level and Fox in the air. IMO he was also playing hurt last year.

We’ve seen this movie before with Horse. He made Ryan OKeefe a full time mid in his late 20s after spending most of his career at HF.

He only burnt people in 2020 because he broke a thumb in the preseason, then did his medial ligament. Even though he averaged 94 in the 6 games he played.

In 2021 he was flying until he broke his hand and came back way too early and lost his touch.
Even if Heeney does go back forward, we will average 95-100 like he has most of the last 7-8 years. Even as a forward he only needs 15-20 touches to ton up.

He won’t keep up this output but I think if he plays a full season he is still comfortably a top 6 forward.

TLDR version:
Bugger your bye structure, get him in your team now. If you don’t you have a Peeney chol
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Post your side pre trades bud

So the routes I can take that make sense.

Option 1)

This week:

Martin > Heeney
Fisher > Billings
Lazzarro/Campbell > T.Berry
~300k in bank

Next week:

Gibcus > Massimo
Lazzarro/Campbell > Dempsey
~200k in bank for first upgrade

Option 2 ignore Billings & give Martin a chance)

This week:

Fisher > Heeney
Lazzarro > Berry

~57k in bank

Next week:

Not enough to do Gibcus > Massimo

Campbell > Dempsey
If Martin spuds it up again or Holmes is elite again, Martin > Holmes
which gives me cash to do Gibcus > Massimo

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So the routes I can take that make sense.

Option 1)

This week:

Martin > Heeney
Fisher > Billings
Lazzarro/Campbell > T.Berry
~300k in bank

Next week:

Gibcus > Massimo
Lazzarro/Campbell > Dempsey
~200k in bank for first upgrade

Option 2 ignore Billings & give Martin a chance)

This week:

Fisher > Heeney
Lazzarro > Berry

~57k in bank

Next week:

Not enough to do Gibcus > Massimo

Campbell > Dempsey
If Martin spuds it up again or Holmes is elite again, Martin > Holmes
which gives me cash to do Gibcus > Massimo

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Laz and Flake out .
Heens and berry in.

Imo.
 

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I'm going to give DMbrroseo another week ...liked the look of him tho.
I would like to, but then with Gibcus, Reid & Williams - I will have 1 less player for best 18 round
 
So the routes I can take that make sense.

Option 1)

This week:

Martin > Heeney
Fisher > Billings
Lazzarro/Campbell > T.Berry
~300k in bank

Next week:

Gibcus > Massimo
Lazzarro/Campbell > Dempsey
~200k in bank for first upgrade

Option 2 ignore Billings & give Martin a chance)

This week:

Fisher > Heeney
Lazzarro > Berry

~57k in bank

Next week:

Not enough to do Gibcus > Massimo

Campbell > Dempsey
If Martin spuds it up again or Holmes is elite again, Martin > Holmes
which gives me cash to do Gibcus > Massimo

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Fish to Heen - yes
Berry - no - he's a bust imho

Edit - just realised it's Terry your bringing in for Laz

Good cash grab move
 
Someone run some data on people that score 170 and their scores the following week...

Serong has never gone over 150 before, so I don't expect he will back up with another 170!

On Massimo, zero kick-ins (although unlike the Hawks the Bombers didn't kick many behinds!). But, Amon (3), Sicily (1) and Hardwick (1) took the 5 that were on offer.
 
Someone run some data on people that score 170 and their scores the following week...
Bont 182 followed by 122 and 164

Butters 184 followed by 104 105

Anderson dropped off huge last season going 144 189 then 88

Mills 214 followed by 139

Sicily 172 dnp then 136

Touk 167 then 100 but followed with 3 more 150+ over the next month or so

Rowell 170 then 141

Whitfield 170 then 115

Merrett last year two times 162 then 110, 168 then 136

Parish 190 then 95

Macrae 169 then 162


I’m not trying to knit pick because I’m sure there’s more bad examples but I’m just going off big games I specifically remember. One trend I do notice though, is if a player goes big, it can lead to them getting away from you real fast. Sure there is some bad examples like Noah Anderson last year but then there’s examples like Touk a few years ago or Butters last year. (Butters didn’t necessarily get away price wise for too long but I was never able to get him in). I lucked out and traded in Mills the week he scored 215, that trade which was against the grain as most were targeting Trac that week, is honestly one of the only reasons I finished top 100 that year.
 
Long post straight ahead :)

I think that Parker will be playing 70/30 fwd/mid. He looked shot at the back end of last year, turns 32 this year and will only attend CBAs and get mid time in case of emergency IMO.

Mills is mostly an outside mid, even if he goes in the guts he will be in more of a receiver role. IMO he might also rotate between wing/half back with Jordon given he is coming back from a busted shoulder. Won’t be back until byes.

Adams is the most likely out of the 3 to be an inside mid and I think worse case he will take some CPs from Heeney each game but not his overall possessions.

IMO Heeney will spend more time in the midfield as it frees up Warner and Gulden and makes our midfield more dynamic.

Last year, for reasons only known to Horse, Heeney was playing a defensive forward scrubber role which now looks to be covered by McInerney at ground level and Fox in the air. IMO he was also playing hurt last year.

We’ve seen this movie before with Horse. He made Ryan OKeefe a full time mid in his late 20s after spending most of his career at HF.

He only burnt people in 2020 because he broke a thumb in the preseason, then did his medial ligament. Even though he averaged 94 in the 6 games he played.

In 2021 he was flying until he broke his hand and came back way too early and lost his touch.
Even if Heeney does go back forward, we will average 95-100 like he has most of the last 7-8 years. Even as a forward he only needs 15-20 touches to ton up.

He won’t keep up this output but I think if he plays a full season he is still comfortably a top 6 forward.

TLDR version:
Bugger your bye structure, get him in your team now. If you don’t you have a Peeney chol
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Bont 182 followed by 122 and 164

Butters 184 followed by 104 105

Anderson dropped off huge last season going 144 189 then 88

Mills 214 followed by 139

Sicily 172 dnp then 136

Touk 167 then 100 but followed with 3 more 150+ over the next month or so

Rowell 170 then 141

Whitfield 170 then 115

Merrett last year two times 162 then 110, 168 then 136

Parish 190 then 95

Macrae 169 then 162


I’m not trying to knit pick because I’m sure there’s more bad examples but I’m just going off big games I specifically remember. One trend I do notice though, is if a player goes big, it can lead to them getting away from you real fast. Sure there is some bad examples like Noah Anderson last year but then there’s examples like Touk a few years ago or Butters last year. (Butters didn’t necessarily get away price wise for too long but I was never able to get him in). I lucked out and traded in Mills the week he scored 215, that trade which was against the grain as most were targeting Trac that week, is honestly one of the only reasons I finished top 100 that year.
Follow up on this regarding Serong. I try and mix personal views on my SuperCoach team and being competitive. There’s a reason I started Whitfield, I love the kent, no matter how often he hurts me. I’m a pies fan but I’m going to the north freo game this week and I think I’d enjoy watching it with Serong in my team over Martin. Point chasing? Sure, but I feel like you can make some fun decisions this time of year.

I traded Cunnington to JHF because I was watching Pies v Port at the G in round 2 and although he was shit I still managed to finish 1000th. SuperCoach gets boring if you don’t allow yourself to do stupid trades.
 
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