Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Mostyn]

FWIW I very much doubt Money made that info up, but I'd absolutely believe a Port-related contact put out that rumour as a last-ditch effort to sway Cumming, and given his biases he was willing to run with it

I agree.

Money seems to have very close contacts with Port, and that (and his own biases) put him in a position where he ran with a story that he should have known was suss.

 

[Mostyn]

Do you actually believe it's a 7 $million Contract ......not a chance in hell

Why don't you believe that?

They gave Ratagulea $800k a year for 4 years, and Luko is obviously better than him.

They've been very willing to spend for players they see as real needs.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Why don't you believe that?

They gave Ratagulea $800k a year for 4 years, and Luko is obviously better than him.

They've been very willing to spend for players they see as real needs.

Lets assume Ratagulea and Lukosius contracts are true .....and they rarely are ....what is Rozee, Butters, Houston on ?

There's no-way with those numbers they can have room for Perryman, Cumming, Richards ...

Ratugulea would have been on $350K at GEEL .....he wasn't a best 22 player ....why in hell would Port pay a $450K premium for him, it's senseless

The idea with Lukosius was to even out his $1M a year contract (back ended), by extending the period ....there's no way I'm believing Port simply took the back ended value, and said we'll give you another 5 years on top at the same value

Not a chance !

 

[FR0GGY]

Why don't you believe that?

They gave Ratagulea $800k a year for 4 years, and Luko is obviously better than him.

They've been very willing to spend for players they see as real needs.

Has this been published anywhere? It seems to be repeated ad nausem without much evidence?

The News Corp report states both Port Adelaide and Hawthorn’s offers are five-year deals, and though likely north of $500,000 annually with the potential to “significantly” rise with the new CBA, they wouldn’t start at $700,000.

 

[FR0GGY]

The Ratagulea number was widely reported. Google will find that for you.

Believe it, don't believe it, that's your call.

Luko, Rozee and Butters would all be close to $1m. JHF is already on $750k. Houston signed a long deal and feels underpaid, which is a key motivation for leaving.

Personally, I don't think they extended Luko for five more years on his current $1m. It just feels insane. But knowing Port, it's not impossible.

Was it? The best I can find is 5 mill over 7

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The Ratagulea number was widely reported. Google will find that for you.

Believe it, don't believe it, that's your call.

Luko, Rozee and Butters would all be close to $1m. JHF is already on $750k. Houston signed a long deal and feels underpaid, which is a key motivation for leaving.

Personally, I don't think they extended Luko for five more years on his current $1m. It just feels insane. But knowing Port, it's not impossible.

Contract security (4 years ) at $550K would have secured Ratagulea .....he was getting dropped regularly and would have been delisted

GEEL weren't fighting to keep him .....I don't care what the media state as his value .....no-one "officially" has released his value, it's all speculation

 

[Mostyn]

Has this been published anywhere? It seems to be repeated ad nausem without much evidence?

The News Corp report states both Port Adelaide and Hawthorn’s offers are five-year deals, and though likely north of $500,000 annually with the potential to “significantly” rise with the new CBA, they wouldn’t start at $700,000.

Good point.

“It’s happening and you’re not even realising it yet”: Why Cornes says AFL industry needs to “grow up”

“So when are we going to mature and grow up?”

www.sen.com.au

There's stuff like that referring to $700k over 5, but I'm not sure where I saw $800k.

 

[Mostyn]

Contract security (4 years ) at $550K would have secured Ratagulea .....he was getting dropped regularly and would have been delisted

GEEL weren't fighting to keep him .....I don't care what the media state as his value .....no-one "officially" has released his value, it's all speculation

Geelong would have told every journalist who asked what Esava got.

It was a budding war with Hawthorn.

 

[Runnin Blue]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/kane-cornes-slams-absolutely-ridiculous-contract-offer-to-esava-ratugolea/news-story/0a1f0bc24c32fe700bccaacca87429a7?amp

Yeah, sounds like Hawthorn offered over 700k a season.

Ergo Port would likely have offered more.

Ergo lmao.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Shut up about Port.. ffs.

 

[crow2crow]

I think it was the right move. They desperately need a key forward to go with Georgiadis or they can't improve.

If they draft and then develop a key forward by the time they are any good their midfielders like Rozzee or Butters could be past their best and Alir and Wines retired.

wait til butters leaves - you wont be saying that

 

[crow2crow]

The irony is their list management strength is essentially the root cause of their inability to win finals.

Every team has a great top 6 players in their 22. But more often then not it's the bottom 6 that let your team down. Port have an exceptional top 6, but their bottom 6 are a liability, especially when the heat is turned up.

If the rumoured Luko numbers are accurate, that's not getting easier in the next 5 years IMO

i think you spot on

 

[Carmo]

The idea with Lukosius was to even out his $1M a year contract (back ended), by extending the period ....there's no way I'm believing Port simply took the back ended value, and said we'll give you another 5 years on top at the same value

Not a chance !

Unless.....unless there was another club bidding for his services...that was promising just below that....knowing he wouldn't go to them but just doing their best to stuff up the other teams list management/salary cap

 

[LoBu]

Rozee or JHF (when he gets a new contract) wouldn't be on as much as their equivalents interstate. You always pay less to a local.

That's the cost to be leave your old club, you get the 40 pieces of silver

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Call me naive but I still don’t believe they make stuff up, he’s been given bad information by someone.
You run a 95% chance of being wrong and being made to look like a fool by making something up.

Nah, they make stuff up all the time.

If they don't know, they guess to pretend to be in the know.

They can't afford to sit on the fence.

... yes, there us also bad information being fed.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Do you actually believe it's a 7 $million Contract ......not a chance in hell

No chance imo.

Reckon closer to $800k pa over 5 years, front loaded $950k in 1st 2 seasons because of his current contract.

 

[FR0GGY]

Nah, they make stuff up all the time.

If they don't know, they guess to pretend to be in the know.

They can't afford to sit on the fence.

... yes, there us also bad information being fed.

Have we got any evidence of this?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

FWIW I very much doubt Money made that info up, but I'd absolutely believe a Port-related contact put out that rumour as a last-ditch effort to sway Cumming, and given his biases he was willing to run with it

Proper journalists used to check their sources... but these days they just run wirh any vague thing they hear that will attract attention.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Have we got any evidence of this?

Seriously?

Just have follow what journalists claim over the next few months & how their story suddenly changes.

Many of their stories are guesswork.

Naive to think otherwise.

 

[FR0GGY]

Seriously?

Just have follow what journalists claim over the next few months & how their story suddenly changes.

Many of their stories are guesswork.

Naive to think otherwise.

No one has any idea what they are told, you’re just guessing.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No one has any idea what they are told, you’re just guessing.

No, I know the like of Sam Manure makes shit up... & he isn't alone.

You are naive if you honestly think they have sources all the time.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Twomey gets his rumours from managers and club leaks. He's notorious for how he ferrets out info.

There is no one on BigFooty who is leaking information they get direct from managers. Mostly it's just people making things up.

No disrespect to Jeffcrowe - who is both an excellent poster and a great middle order bat - but I don't think he was claiming that his source was a manager or someone direct.

From Peatling camp and also someone at club confirmed

No way saying we are favourites to nab him just that we are in the hunt and the Isaac cumming to us thing doesn’t hurt as all the giants boys are very close

There is another thing that we have in our favour but prefer not to share it just yet

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

From Peatling camp and also someone at club confirmed

No way saying we are favourites to nab him just that we are in the hunt and the Isaac cumming to us thing doesn’t hurt as all the giants boys are very close

There is another thing that we have in our favour but prefer not to share it just yet

If we land Peatling, we would have had our best off season for a long time.

 

[Geoffa32]

Won the Norm Smith, but second best hair on the day....

 

[Jeffcrowe]

If we land Peatling, we would have had our best off season for a long time.

FWIW I don’t think we will

But fingers crossed we find the right angle to turn his head