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I see a lot of comparisons in this thread between Jack Lukosius
and Jack Watts.
For me, the more apt comparison is Lewis Johnston
.
We do have a need for a forward with Tex retiring, Himmelberg leaving, Gollant being delisted, Burgess not being up to it, and also having still not replaced McAdam.
Cook to me projects more as a wingman.
Curtin could fill this role, but only in the short term. Longer term he’s clearly either an inside or outside mid.
The only Lukosius trade I would be entertaining is one where we send away one or both of Keane / Berry.
We are flush for tallish defenders and should cash in on Keane this offseason IMO. You can’t ever play all 4 of Murray, Butts, Worrell and Keane in the same side, and while he’s not the sexiest player, I’d trust Jordon Butts to shut a key forward down in a final way more than I’d trust Mark Keane.
We have enough “attacking” players to play inside D50 to surround those pillars, with the likes of Hinge, Nankervis, Milera, Ryan and Michalanney providing the drive out of defence (in addition to Worrell). Point of my story - trade Keane to address list needs while his value is up.
Berry won’t have as much trade value as Keane, but he will fetch a decent draft pick. Something in the 30s I would suggest. Sure, he’s a great tackler. But he’s not quick, does not kick goals, is incapable of getting the ball 25 times in a game, and we don’t need him.
So, I think we can absolutely get a 2nd round pick for Keane, and a 3rd round pick for Berry. It seems likely that both would go to Vic clubs, but you never know.
Gold Coast want points to match a Lombard bid. Hell, maybe they want Sam Berry.
A net result of Keane and Berry out, for Lukosius in would be smart business.
Do I expect Luko to become some sort of roaring success here? No. There is definitely some Lewis Johnston
here, BUT, it’s worth a shot for this price because the talent is undeniable and it might just click.
Any suggestions of first round picks being involved without GC picks coming back our way are laughable. Luko’s value has absolutely tumbled since he was drafted and nobody in the industry would even attempt to argue that he’s now worth any more than about pick 18-20 (and that’s being very generous).
PLAYERCARDSTART
13
Jack Lukosius
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 195cm
- Wt
- 91kg
- Pos.
- D/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 14.8
- 4star
- K
- 11.5
- 4star
- HB
- 3.3
- 3star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 369.3
- 5star
- D
- 14.8
- 4star
- K
- 11.5
- 4star
- HB
- 3.3
- 2star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 3star
- MG
- 369.3
- 5star
- D
- 13.6
- 4star
- K
- 11.2
- 4star
- HB
- 2.4
- 3star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- MG
- 358.0
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
For me, the more apt comparison is Lewis Johnston
PLAYERCARDSTART
Lewis Johnston
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 193cm
- Wt
- 91kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.1
- 3star
- K
- 8.2
- 3star
- HB
- 2.9
- 3star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
No current season stats available
- D
- 10.4
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
We do have a need for a forward with Tex retiring, Himmelberg leaving, Gollant being delisted, Burgess not being up to it, and also having still not replaced McAdam.
Cook to me projects more as a wingman.
Curtin could fill this role, but only in the short term. Longer term he’s clearly either an inside or outside mid.
The only Lukosius trade I would be entertaining is one where we send away one or both of Keane / Berry.
We are flush for tallish defenders and should cash in on Keane this offseason IMO. You can’t ever play all 4 of Murray, Butts, Worrell and Keane in the same side, and while he’s not the sexiest player, I’d trust Jordon Butts to shut a key forward down in a final way more than I’d trust Mark Keane.
We have enough “attacking” players to play inside D50 to surround those pillars, with the likes of Hinge, Nankervis, Milera, Ryan and Michalanney providing the drive out of defence (in addition to Worrell). Point of my story - trade Keane to address list needs while his value is up.
Berry won’t have as much trade value as Keane, but he will fetch a decent draft pick. Something in the 30s I would suggest. Sure, he’s a great tackler. But he’s not quick, does not kick goals, is incapable of getting the ball 25 times in a game, and we don’t need him.
So, I think we can absolutely get a 2nd round pick for Keane, and a 3rd round pick for Berry. It seems likely that both would go to Vic clubs, but you never know.
Gold Coast want points to match a Lombard bid. Hell, maybe they want Sam Berry.
A net result of Keane and Berry out, for Lukosius in would be smart business.
Do I expect Luko to become some sort of roaring success here? No. There is definitely some Lewis Johnston
PLAYERCARDSTART
Lewis Johnston
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 193cm
- Wt
- 91kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.1
- 3star
- K
- 8.2
- 3star
- HB
- 2.9
- 3star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
No current season stats available
- D
- 10.4
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Any suggestions of first round picks being involved without GC picks coming back our way are laughable. Luko’s value has absolutely tumbled since he was drafted and nobody in the industry would even attempt to argue that he’s now worth any more than about pick 18-20 (and that’s being very generous).
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