Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 25, last 28th August)

[Danger in Texas]

Twomey has us in the box seat for ANB

 

[Mostyn]

Worth remembering during all the Oliver stuff this year journos were saying we weren't an option salary cap wise... At the time everyone laughed at them for being dumb and wrong but it's beginning to seem like they knew a few things we didn't?

What do you mean?

 

[Mostyn]

ANB is a very good team player - tough and hard and good skills. Much more the experienced player I’d like to see in our mix. Would not say no.

We need to focus on improving our team with these cheap additions - not just providing backup.

I’d think 3 years from Alex would help our team a lot! He would be a great example from a successful team for players like Rachele / Soligo / Berry / Curtin… imo. ANB has watched top line players up close perform when it matters.

There needs to be an admission that we are on the improve, we are not contesting next year for the premiership - but it could be a very important step towards one.

In two years we need to be a team that others fear - 2026 should be when we start getting on the actual radar for success. Maybe 2027 until we have a realistic shot at winning it.

We must be drafting and trading with this timeline front of mind. Actually that is the complaint I’ve had about our club right now in terms of selection … focusing too much on this week, not enough on the end goal.

I guess we’ll see.

We're the second youngest side in the AFL.

We're CLEARLY focused on the future.

And that's why you bring in ANB. He's the right kind of inexpensive professional who can be an onfield leader as the young players develop - and when they're starting to peak, he ages out of the side and has done his piece.

As long as it's pick 42, I'm probably happy for either him or Caleb Daniel to join us.

 

[Danger in Texas]

We're the second youngest side in the AFL.

We're CLEARLY focused on the future.

And that's why you bring in ANB. He's the right kind of inexpensive professional who can be an onfield leader as the young players develop - and when they're starting to peak, he ages out of the side and has done his piece.

As long as it's pick 42, I'm probably happy for either him or Caleb Daniel to join us.

Reckon ANB is a fair way ahead of Daniel now, in terms of both quality and need

This might sound like I’m saying it in bad taste, but if it’s a deeply personal situation for ANB, Melb might be more accepting of letting him go for a lesser price (ie 42). I’d be happy to find a pick in the 30’s and trade that for him, though (maybe use an F3 to move 42 up?)

 

[BenJman]

Twomey has us in the box seat for ANB

He's pretty reliable too is Cal Twomey

 

[Mostyn]

Reckon ANB is a fair way ahead of Daniel now, in terms of both quality and need

This might sound like I’m saying it in bad taste, but if it’s a deeply personal situation for ANB, Melb might be more accepting of letting him go for a lesser price (ie 42). I’d be happy to find a pick in the 30’s and trade that for him, though (maybe use an F3 to move 42 up?)

Yeah, I agree with you. I think Melbourne will be understanding, and the difference between 42 and his actual value (35 or so?) might be close enough that they just call it a wash.

 

[Glenny83]

Twomey has us in the box seat for ANB

Was that on Gettable he was saying that?


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[bigman]

If we could get him for the right price definite yes from me. Has pace, is clever and has played well in big games. Good defensive qualities and good team man. We are short of smaller forward types who can front and square. Nothing in Reserves atm for this role.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Was that on Gettable he was saying that?


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Yep

 

[DJ75]

Imagine how awkward the conversation is going to be when Reid tells Nicks he has recruited a bloke to replace Murphy...

 

[jackster83]

Oliver put on ice for the rest of the season now too.

 

[bettingonbetts]

They said we should expect a big off season and we are getting it.
Hope crows don’t disappoint us like they normally do and play hard.
Luko, ANB, Pou?, Cumming and Daniels (not so much) would be amazing. If somehow we can keep pick 4 with that I’ll be amazed.
I doubt we keep pick 4 however if we make a play for Pou

 

[chrisso crow]

We then reshape his contract , give him an extra year but smooth out the payments. Then renegotiate when his next contract is due

Is this still allowed? I thought the AFL changed the rules after the Bowes deal?

 

[DJ75]

Is this still allowed? I thought the AFL changed the rules after the Bowes deal?

Rules only get changed to benefit Victorian teams. They are exploited by a Vic club, then changed, then changed back if another Vic club might benefit.

 

[DJ75]

They said we should expect a big off season and we are getting it.
Hope crows don’t disappoint us like they normally do and play hard.
Luko, ANB, Pou?, Cumming and Daniels (not so much) would be amazing. If somehow we can keep pick 4 with that I’ll be amazed.
I doubt we keep pick 4 however if we make a play for Pou

Might almost be enough for me to renew my membership

 

[dogs105]

Oliver put on ice for the rest of the season now too.

Leave it Pugsley

 

[Scorpus]

If you're recruiting 29 year olds that means you have to win a flag within 3 years otherwise it's pointless

 

[1990crow]

If you're recruiting 29 year olds that means you have to win a flag within 3 years otherwise it's pointless

Don't agree. Need to develop a winning culture that the youngsters can carry through.

Doubt Melbourne win in 2021 without their senior recruits over the previous 7 years.

Geelong in 2022 didn't have players they'd recruited at an older age over the previous decade either.

 

[Mostyn]

Imagine how awkward the conversation is going to be when Reid tells Nicks he has recruited a bloke to replace Murphy...

I actually think this is perfect.

Coaching staff want a reliable, professional and mature bodies leader in that role. Murphy is really just a poor man's ANB, this is finally a genuine replacement the coaches will get behind.

 

[Scorpus]

Don't agree. Need to develop a winning culture that the youngsters can carry through.

Doubt Melbourne win in 2021 without their senior recruits over the previous 7 years.

Geelong in 2022 didn't have players they'd recruited at an older age over the previous decade either.

Committing to old players that won't be part of a flag team is how you end up going through a rebuild and yet still remaining inexperienced

When the guys that won't be there end up retiring, you have to replace them with a new player anyway - just this time they're 70-100 games less experienced than they otherwise would have been.

Or you have to bring in another recruit, who takes time to get up to speed, depends on the market at the time, etc.

Neal-Bullen is a fine enough player, but he's the sort you bring in to sure up a role for a flag tilt. He's not going to do much for a rebuild. So getting him means we have to go all the way.

 

[spenze]

I think it’s only fair that ANB and Murphy fight for the position and it be televised

 

[spenze]

Committing to old players that won't be part of a flag team is how you end up going through a rebuild and yet still remaining inexperienced

When the guys that won't be there end up retiring, you have to replace them with a new player anyway - just this time they're 70-100 games less experienced than they otherwise would have been.

Or you have to bring in another recruit, who takes time to get up to speed, depends on the market at the time, etc.

Neal-Bullen is a fine enough player, but he's the sort you bring in to sure up a role for a flag tilt. He's not going to do much for a rebuild. So getting him means we have to go all the way.

Decent coaching group and a few nice recruits we could challenge within 3 years

Our side is fine, we need to weed out a couple of senior players with loser mentality and we can definitely challenge

 

[WeeBlake]

Don't agree. Need to develop a winning culture that the youngsters can carry through.

Doubt Melbourne win in 2021 without their senior recruits over the previous 7 years.

Geelong in 2022 didn't have players they'd recruited at an older age over the previous decade either.

Maybe I’ve misunderstood you but Isaac Smith won the norm smith in 2022?

 

[Rix31]

If you're recruiting 29 year olds that means you have to win a flag within 3 years otherwise it's pointless

Agreed. Surely we are in the hunt within the next three years though. I mean, come 2027, Dawson, Milera, crouch etc will be the other side of thirty.

 

[1990crow]

Maybe I’ve misunderstood you but Isaac Smith won the norm smith in 2022?

Meaning they recruited a number of older players over the decade before their flag.
Some played in the grand final, some didn't.