Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[George Kramer]

I've posted about my links ....I get a lot of good intel that I don't share

So just take it as my opinion FWIW

Ok so what’s your opinion on Nicks wanting Luko given Hardwick who you’ve stated is a good judge of talent is forcing him out?

 

[Mutineer]

Amazing isn't it .....the board constantly blows up on nepotism for ex Crows players ....yet here we are advocating Rutten come back to the Crows as an assistant Coach

Why? .....give me a reason ....because all I can see is hypocrisy

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

 

[Fritz n Sauce]

Hardwick wants him to play back, Luko wants to play forward. Thats the reason they are not on the same page

 

[George Kramer]

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

Lots of winners in that list….

 

[jackster83]

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

Bit different when your club has won a bunch of flags.

A three time premiership winning player is a bit more impressive than someone who played in the 2003 Wizard Cup triumph.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

Oh yes, I can see the hypocrisy .....however it's been a huge talking point about Crows appointments

VB has copped it ....Doc copped a lot for being the Ruck Coach of ROB .....it's as if a player's performance is the direct result of his Coach ......it's never the player's fault for a bad game

 

[1990crow]

Oh yes, I can see the hypocrisy .....however it's been a huge talking point about Crows appointments

VB has copped it ....Doc copped a lot for being the Ruck Coach of ROB .....it's as if a player's performance is the direct result of his Coach ......it's never the player's fault for a bad game

Our coaches, selectors and list management assemble the list and team on the park.

If they're not getting it done that's their responsibility to find better players, or stop picking them.

 

[George Kramer]

Oh yes, I can see the hypocrisy .....however it's been a huge talking point about Crows appointments

VB has copped it ....Doc copped a lot for being the Ruck Coach of ROB .....it's as if a player's performance is the direct result of his Coach ......it's never the player's fault for a bad game

So you’re back onto blaming the players when only days ago you defended Hamish and Reid. So who selects these players and then who continues to play them?

 

[spenze]

Crowmo/Sanders was a genius at sussing people out. He had a sixth sense for it.

He always thought you were Jenny

 

[Mostyn]

Initially I hought he was worth a first, based on the couple of games I'd seen him towel us up. After all the stories it looks like he's not worth it. A 3x premiership coach doesn't want him...

Malthouse won a few flags too.

Coaches aren't foolproof.

 

[1990crow]

So you’re back onto blaming the players when only days ago you defended Hamish and Reid. So who selects these players and then who continues to play them?

It's really not that complicated why we continue to lose as a club.

 

[Bazz_27]

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

The boys club is a dead and buried argument. We possibly have the least boys club types than we ever had and they still aren't happy. I expect it will go full circle and they will start asking why we don't have more former players around the place

 

[Mostyn]

Sorry, but B&F results can be dodgy as.

I’d do the future first to them and a second rounder back for this year.

He’s worth that.

Agreed.

F1 for Luko and 20 is fine. I'm less enthusiastic about 26. But I want the pick for this year.

Of course, if we could do 25 and 26 to Brisbane for 15, I'd be happy.

 

[LoBu]

Amazing isn't it .....the board constantly blows up on nepotism for ex Crows players ....yet here we are advocating Rutten come back to the Crows as an assistant Coach

Why? .....give me a reason ....because all I can see is hypocrisy

Rutten has excellent resume as an assistant to the point he was selected as senior coach for essendon.

While that obviously imploded, the fact that he was so highly rated makes him appealing, like Voss, or Teague, or Bolton, or Ratten, etc.

Failure the first time around doesn't mean your not a good coach and wouldn't have a lot to offer.

Most assistant coaches aren't on a heap of money so if you have a connection to SA you are easier to recruit, making the high quality assistant coaches pool for us relatively small compared to Collingwood.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Our coaches, selectors and list management assemble the list and team on the park.

If they're not getting it done that's their responsibility to find better players, or stop picking them.

That's a great philosophy .....but we're talking about people, often with issues going on in RL

It's a fact, AFL Coaches across the board are reluctant to drop players .....it's a different generation of player these days, that reacts to the slightest hiccup ....you know, like Petracca .....not even going to the Clubs B & F

But onto the Crows ....our issue with a young list, short on experienced depth ...you have to keep playing them

With a greater exposure of youth last season, and an influx of 3-4 quality players ...our depth should facilitate more competition for spots

But Nicks will have to be prepared to make tough calls

 

[George Kramer]

He always thought you were Jenny

They’re not?

 

[Crow till I die]

Agreed.

F1 for Luko and 20 is fine. I'm less enthusiastic about 26. But I want the pick for this year.

Of course, if we could do 25 and 26 to Brisbane for 15, I'd be happy.

Variation may be

F1 + 25 for Luko and 13.

Then you may get one of the best mids sliding to that pick meaning we get 2 of them in this draft!!

Edit> The other thing a deal like that does is scupper any chance Melbourne have of getting our pick 25 for ANB

 

[Jars458]

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

They are a succesful club, they don't need to justify anything. The Boys Club at the AFC is a bunch of blokes who think and act the same, not necessarily ex Crows pepole who have delivered 30 years of mediocrity at best.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Rutten has excellent resume as an assistant to the point he was selected as senior coach for essendon.

While that obviously imploded, the fact that he was so highly rated makes him appealing, like Voss, or Teague, or Bolton, or Ratten, etc.

Failure the first time around doesn't mean your not a good coach and wouldn't have a lot to offer.

Most assistant coaches aren't on a heap of money so if you have a connection to SA you are easier to recruit, making the high quality assistant coaches pool for us relatively small compared to Collingwood.

I can guarantee you ....Rutten will never get an AFL senior coaching gig ....and there were big divisions around his last appt

 

[El Doederino]

Has anyone that goes on with that jobs for the boys checked out Geelong's coaching staff and list manager.
Coaching staff
Chris Scott - Brisbane AFL
James Kelly - Geelong AFL
Stephen King - Geelong AFL
James Rahilly - Geelong AFL
Mark Corrigan - Geelong VFL
Brad Ottens - Geelong AFL
Nigel Lappin - Brisbane AFL

List Manager
Andrew Mackie - Geelong AFL

If we had dominated the AFL the way Geelong have in recent times, then I would be more open to jobs for the boys. Until then, and since our boys don't know how to even spell success, would prefer we get our people from elsewhere.

 

[1990crow]

That's a great philosophy .....but we're talking about people, often with issues going on in RL

It's a fact, AFL Coaches across the board are reluctant to drop players .....it's a different generation of player these days, that reacts to the slightest hiccup ....you know, like Petracca .....not even going to the Clubs B & F

But onto the Crows ....our issue with a young list, short on experienced depth ...you have to keep playing them

With a greater exposure of youth last season, and an influx of 3-4 quality players ...our depth should facilitate more competition for spots

But Nicks will have to be prepared to make tough calls

"Issues going on in real life".
What?

Does this excuse apply to every club equally, or just more prominent with us in why we have failed?

 

[El Doederino]

I can guarantee you ....Rutten will never get an AFL senior coaching gig ....and there were big divisions around his last appt

Essendons the sort of club that needs a boss who creates divisions. Brad Scott is doing the same now.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

"Issues going on in real life".
What?

Does this excuse apply to every club equally, or just more prominent with us in why we have failed?

You don't think anyone in the workplace doesn't have something major going on, which impacts performance & motivation?

Why are players exempt ?

 

[1990crow]

You don't think anyone in the workplace doesn't have something major going on, which impacts performance & motivation?

Why are players exempt ?

You didn't answer the question why the Crows get more of an excuse than the other 17 clubs.

 

[Redline]

Not sure I am that excited by Rutten but any change is good.

Also not sure why he would take on the role, we couldn't offer him anymore than two years and he would know that Nicks is every chance to only last 12 months. I would of thought there would be more job security in Victoria.

Depending on what you want out of the role I'd go for someone like Jade Rawlings

Jade Rawlings

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196cm

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4.2

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No current season stats available

D

4.6

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3.8

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0.8

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M

2.6

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0.4

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G

1.8

5star

in a Senior Assitant role.

He has coached an AFL team all be in an interim capacity and can clearly coach himself. As far as I know none of Hombsch, Burns or Van Berlo have coached their own team.