List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 14th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Horizons_00]

I hear ya,
I simply don't trust any staff member at the club at the moment. They need to show drastic improvement. I honestly can't believe how uncompetitive they are, and yet we seem to just think next year will be better.
we've picked up Darling who can't leap, and still stuffing around with Parker. yet still haven't addressed glaring needs like pressure forwards, something needs to change.

And we shouldn’t trust em

But a lot of players have been told strongly to work really hard in this up coming preseason or **** off

 

[Zondor]

One word comes to mind…

D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E.

It’s a great tool to have during trade period.

Yup. That word has been in my head since before trade period began with the whispers floating around. :stern look

 

[Ardent Roo]

I guarantee you 100% this is all coming from Clarko and Viney.

I reckon Brady just fills out the paperwork.

 

[Roosurgence]

Our offer wouldn't be pick13 alone


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Not if the media reports are anywhere near correct.

They are saying F1 plus something else for Pick 13.

 

[perplexed]

I guarantee you 100% this is all coming from Clarko and Viney.

Well, that's crazy, if true.

Clarko isn't doing that well at his own job that he can start doing other people's as well. And Viney is supposed to be keeping him under control.

 

[DuckYeah]

 

[My Left Foote]

Let’s save all the outrage until trade period closes. We can only then rejoice or revolt.

You can still trade right up to the day before the draft, the outrage will never end.

 

[Zondor]

It's very clear there's a specific strategic direction inside the club that is very different from fan expectations this year

It's hard to believe that something this drastic wouldn't have everyone, from Brady to Clarko to Viney to the board, all on the same page.

Im not saying it's right or wrong but I also think ppl need to consider this bigger picture stuff before they come in here foaming at the mouth over Rawling alone

This is true. Clarkson and Viney would be driving this as much as Rawling. :stern look

 

[Ashley B]

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North Melbourne had its initial proposal for Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

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rejected by the Western Bulldogs.The Roos floated Pick 25 for Daniel & Pick 48.
Surely you jest

 

[Jasemon]

I blame Farren Ray

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We could have selected Houston in the 2015 rookie draft but went with Fray instead. Granted every club overlooked him with about 5 of their picks but I don’t care. Embrace Revisionism!

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Waiting game sucks let’s play hungry hungry hippos

 

[Jimmac31]

So they said no to 25 for Daniel + 48... what were the Dogs thinking.

 

[Zondor]

In unrelated news I convinced Chat GPT yesterday that Rawling is a poor list manager. I’m glad that many of you are finally seeing it for yourselves. AI = BF :stern look

 

[Shermanator]

IF THE PROPOSED TRADE IS TRUE..
We're offering pick 25 for Daniel & 48
THEN..
48 goes to Swans for Parker
=
Two former premiership F&B's for pick 25 (which could end up 30+ after F/S and academy).

Can live with that.

 

[Zondor]

So they said no to 25 for Daniel + 48... what were the Dogs thinking.

Brady is an idiot? He may offer more? :stern look

 

[Waynesworld]

I blame Farren Ray.

We could have selected Houston in the 2015 rookie draft but went with Fray instead. Granted every club overlooked him with about 5 of their picks but I don’t care. Embrace Revisionism!

Mate Ray Farren wasn't much better! The 2 of them have set this club back 10 years!

 

[The Nostradamus]

IF THE PROPOSED TRADE IS TRUE..
We're offering pick 25 for Daniel & 48
THEN..
48 goes to Swans for Parker
=
Two former premiership F&B's for pick 25 (which could end up 30+ after F/S and academy).

Can live with that.

nope
future 3rd for daniel
44 for parker

25 we get a kpf or small forward in the draft

 

[Ashley B]

We must have been getting something back like a pick in the 30s , surely

 

[Dan]

Idiots for knocking that back if they’re gonna continue to use him the same way they did this year.

The same can be said for Macrae.

 

[Devington]

IF THE PROPOSED TRADE IS TRUE..
We're offering pick 25 for Daniel & 48
THEN..
48 goes to Swans for Parker
=
Two former premiership F&B's for pick 25 (which could end up 30+ after F/S and academy).

Can live with that.

Decent point. Sum of the individual parts might more or less match up, but losing 25 at all is still a bit of a bitch.

 

[Roosurgence]

nope
future 3rd for daniel
44 for parker

25 we get a kpf or small forward in the draft

Unfortunately the gumbies in charge are looking to give up more.

I would be happy for you to take over. All of your suggestions have been 100% better than what the media are telling us we have on the table.

Welcome back mid table darkness my old friend.

Only this club would go through the hard yards of a complete rebuild only to **** it up in one trade period. Peak lunacy.

 

[Themanbun]

Clarko and Viney time travelled to 2021 and made us pay pick 19 for CCJ. They did this because they control everything, even time.

 

[Kofi]

IF THE PROPOSED TRADE IS TRUE..
We're offering pick 25 for Daniel & 48
THEN..
48 goes to Swans for Parker
=
Two former premiership F&B's for pick 25 (which could end up 30+ after F/S and academy).

Can live with that.

Hi Brady.

 

[Roosurgence]

We must have been getting something back like a pick in the 30s , surely

For Pick 13?

The media are saying we are looking to add to our F1 to get to the pick.

Now surely that means Gold Coast adding but I wouldn’t put it past the clowns we have running the show that we are giving up the additional.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

In three years time, Dan Houston will be 30. A year younger than Lachie Neale and Toby Greene this year. Larkey, Logue and Zurhaar will be 29, LDU and Xerri 28, Scott 27, Comben 26, Powell 25, Curtis and Archer 24, Sheezel and Wardlaw 23, McKercher and Duursma 22, our top pick(s) from this year 21.

Bringing in high-quality players who are in the 26-28 range now will quicken our move into the finals window and actually ensure we get there. Houston is one of the best in the comp in a role that is crucial for the style Clarko wants to play.

Yes giving away a high draft pick has an element of risk, but so does the draft overall. Houston was rookie draft #45 in 2015. If that national draft was taken again he'd be top 10. Port were a winner of that draft lottery, we can benefit from that now.

Long-term future talent isn't our issue because as Sheezel and Wardlaw mature, players are going to want to come and play with them provided the team has improved. Current and near-term talent is the issue we need to address to get out of this hole and ensure improvement happens.

Putting all those positives aside, simply landing a big fish that 2 of the big 4 want would be a huge confidence booster for the club, list and the club’s abilities to groom and trade future targets. It would say that we are serious about improving. Paying a little extra would probably be worth it.