List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 15th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Sillygit]

Reeks of desperation on our behalf. We want to be seen to be in the fight even though we are obviously the last choice.

Becuase some media person wants to frame it this way that means we are desperate?

 

[DocSholl]

What is the actual reason Dan wants to come home?

Anyway, I hope the cards fall our way and we get him. Particularly glad we didn't just throw in the towel early.

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Apparently met the love of his life at Jack Silvagni's wedding last year

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Reeks of desperation on our behalf. We want to be seen to be in the fight even though we are obviously the last choice.

Gotta disagree. This isn’t waiting until the night is done because one of the drunk chicks might bite. There’s a finite amount of elite players up for grabs in any window.

We’re in the dance because we’ve been asked to stay. Melbourne were asked to leave, so were the Saints. Like any player that comes into our club, most probably with dreams of other colours, we make them love us til death do we part.

 

[Orange Peanut]

It's the benefit of not publicly nominating a club.

Didn't hurt Joe Daniher, Josh Dunkley etc that they didn't get to the club they originally wanted to go to. I'm sure Dan will be just fine if he comes here.

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Dunkley probably has welts from pinching himself so much, the way his trade turned out.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I'm expecting a hostage handover type scenario.

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At the de-militarised area at Bordtertown.

 

[krakouers]

If we win the battle for Houston's services does he catch a flight? Or do we snatch him up from Rundle St and shove him into a white van?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Becuase some media person wants to frame it this way that means we are desperate?

I think offering up a F1 (likely top 5 pick), when most other clubs are around the pick 10 shows a high level of desperation.

 

[leighlee13]

I just turned on trade radio and heard LDU being mentioned by Kane in a trade scenario but only just heard the tail end which made no sense. Can anyone give me context?

 

[Psicosis]

What is the actual reason Dan wants to come home?

Anyway, I hope the cards fall our way and we get him. Particularly glad we didn't just throw in the towel early.

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His missus.

 

[Flawed Genius]

, we make them love us til death do we part.

Which apparently in Houston's case, we threaten him with every hour on the hour once he enters North-administered indentured servitude

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I think offering up a F1 (likely top 5 pick), when most other clubs are around the pick 10 shows a high level of desperation.

The funny thing is they keep saying we’ll trade that F1 into this draft for the exact same pick the other clubs are putting up.

 

[Samsquanch]

Like him or not the Corn has a lot of pull.

Well I don't like him - especially after his personal attack earlier this year.

In fact, I loathe him. Despise is another emotion that comes to mind.

He's filth in my opinion.

Just to be clear.

 

[krakouers]

I just turned on trade radio and heard LDU being mentioned by Kane in a trade scenario but only just heard the tail end which made no sense. Can anyone give me context?

Melb getting rid of Oliver and chasing LDU via FA

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Which apparently in Houston's case, we threaten him with every hour on the hour once he enters North-administered indentured servitude

Sounds like a fun sexy time for all involved.

 

[buttox]

I think offering up a F1 (likely top 5 pick), when most other clubs are around the pick 10 shows a high level of desperation.

Let's wait and see the deal.
We have no idea what it is yet.
Idk folks in here kick the club for missing big fish.
Then when we get one kick the club for some other arbitrary reason.

 

[Sillygit]

I think offering up a F1 (likely top 5 pick), when most other clubs are around the pick 10 shows a high level of desperation.

what else are you supposed to do? Offer a lower bid than them? That's a pretty dumb way to try to get a deal done.

Much like that one tweet trying to frame this situation as dan being forced, there's a whole bunch of people on here desperate to frame every move we make as catastrophic.

 

[Topparoo]

Throwing the net back out? Is this because of our past poor attempts to land a BIG FISH? The only way we land Houston is if he beaches himself and we just happen to be ambling along the foreshore and pick him up and run back to Arden St with him. Show some class here North they are seriously laughing at us and using us as click bait.

 

[DocSholl]

We've presented a viable alternative. The media and their mate Connors are just being dicks to try and strong arm him to Collingwood

 

[tazaa]

Not entirely true.

We have always said we’re happy to sign him until a deal was done.

The reality is we didn’t say shit last night

 

[Scottroo]

We should go all in and keep trumping Collingwood and Carlton and then pull out late tomorrow afternoon

 

[leighlee13]

Melb getting rid of Oliver and chasing LDU via FA

Thank you

 

[tazaa]

We should have done that several days ago

Why would we do that?
We know we have the best offer.

It’s up to Pies and or Blues to get a deal done.

Look at the state of our list.
Now we want to show pride and backbone?

If AA calibre talent and senior players are interested in getting to us, get on all fours and do what you can to get it done.

Like I said. We need a shit tone of luck to go our way for once.
Houston in sees us playing finals inside 24 months maximum.

 

[GoRoos2023]

I'm expecting a hostage handover type scenario.

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Brady

 

[backtothedraft]

The disconnect between what fans believe is a good deal and what clubs believe is a good deal seems to be growing. Perhaps this is a reflection of the changing nature of the market as draft picks continue to be devalued through opening up of future trading along with the increasing compromised nature of the draft

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

The disconnect between what fans believe is a good deal and what clubs believe is a good deal seems to be growing. Perhaps this is a reflection of the changing nature of the market as draft picks and the devaluation of draft picks through opening up future trading along with the increasing compromised nature of the draft

The fact that there are multiple clubs that simply don’t need draft picks because they have exclusive access to a pipeline of talent has ****ed the trading landscape.