List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 15th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

Expect tigers to offer 6 and 14 for 2

Once Rioli and Bolton done

Do we say no unless they make it 6 and 10

Or maybe 6,14 and 23 for 2 and 25

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Those lauding Carlton for their trade to WC should note they have up next year's 1st and 2nd pick plus Owies to climb 9 spots.

 

[Shinboner roo]

Hi, just interested to see if this deal would work for you guys? It requires us having a backbone and Houston giving up on Collingwood but it’s much better for Port

GC 13 for Saints F1/F2

Saints 7 + 13 for North 2

North 7 + 25 for Houston

North
Lose: 2, 25
Gain: Houston, 13

Saints
Lose: F1, F2, 7
Gain: 2

Suns
Lose: 13
Gain: Saints F1, F2

Port
Lose: Houston
Gain: 7 + 25

Tbh i stopped reading at much better for Port. I personally wouldn't want to use pick 2 in the Houston trade unless we could still be around the top 6-7 this year and use our ff instead, give that to Port and let them deal with splitting it for this year if they want in this draft.

 

[New_Roo]

This trade period has singlehandedly ruined the future of the club..

Current completed trades; Jack Darling

27

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

for Pick 67

You know it's still going?


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[Its a Process]

Expect tigers to offer 6 and 14 for 2

Once Rioli and Bolton done

Do we say no unless they make it 6 and 10

Or maybe 6,14 and 23 for 2 and 25

Is this to ensure they get FOS ahead of the Blues?

 

[Its a Process]

Those lauding Carlton for their trade to WC should note they have up next year's 1st and 2nd pick plus Owies to climb 9 spots.

correct, if the miss FOS they will look a bit silly.

 

[giantroo]

 

[cznsnowy91]

Please do not let us trade f1 for 13

 

[giantroo]

 

[The Nostradamus]

Please do not let us trade f1 for 13

Especially when Freos pick 11 likely will be up for grabs

And even that I wouldn’t do it for

 

[roos 10]

Especially when Freos pick 11 likely will be up for grabs

And even that I wouldn’t do it for

Work with freo **** GC

 

[zoomba23]

Those lauding Carlton for their trade to WC should note they have up next year's 1st and 2nd pick plus Owies to climb 9 spots.

I'm sure that will be hearty consolation for all the Eagles fans.

Still don't think it's a bad deal for them anyway. They didn't want Owies anymore and they'll back themselves in to at least make a semi final imo

 

[Merlin007]

Those lauding Carlton for their trade to WC should note they have up next year's 1st and 2nd pick plus Owies to climb 9 spots.

they obviously rate somebody .... funny if we keep 2 and it's the same kid

 

[GCS in 11]

We're not going to drop that far back in this draft. Any trade will be centred around F1

Getting our 13 does mean that Collingwood is instantly out of the running for Houston and it’s either you or Port.

I think that’s why you’ve offered overs for 13, not just that it’s in demand but it makes you the only Melbourne based option for him.

 

[Merlin007]

makes sense for collingwood - they're clearly going all in while they can with the pendlebury-sidebottom cohort

 

[justroyal]

I feel like Port has a weird clause with us, made from the JHF deal that is keeping us in the race for Houston.

Makes no sense we’re even interested with the lack of interest in his camp wanting to go to North

 

[DT_35]

saints obviously rate the depth in the draft

Due to GC, ESS, Bris all having to match bids 32 and 45 will come in a few spots so not a bad trade for us. 1 of them probably goes for Macrae

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

makes sense for collingwood - they're clearly going all in while they can with the pendlebury-sidebottom cohort

They caught lightning in a bottle winning in 2023.

No side with have that run of luck in close games for some time.

 

[My Left Foote]

correct, if the miss FOS they will look a bit silly.

Carlton need a long-term replacement for Sam Walsh, his back is cooked, any of Smith, FOS, Draper will address that.

 

[kirbonavich]

Are you suggesting race was a factor in the TT situation?

No.

 

[Sphynx]

Please do not let us trade f1 for 13

I just can't get my head around the thought we are 1 really big draft away from wrestling the list into a very strong position, especially with the emergence of Xerri and Comben in critical roles last year.

We are in a stronger position now than we were 12 months ago in that regard.

We have a super even draft, littered with talls and small forwards suited to us outside of the top 6-7 picks.

Our major list gaps are talls and small forwards.

Yet, we look to be turning our back on it.

We should be doing everything we can to get 4-5 picks in the top 25, not getting rid of them. (And not at the expense of burning the value of a F1 or players like Caleb Daniel)

Im not opposed to splitting the 2 for a trade if it's fair value. It appears we are unlikely to get true fair value, so not getting reamed is probably what I'd settle for at this point.

Trading for any player over 24 years of age for picks in this range should be off the table imo, in this draft.

 

[Roosurgence]

Expect tigers to offer 6 and 14 for 2

Once Rioli and Bolton done

Do we say no unless they make it 6 and 10

Or maybe 6,14 and 23 for 2 and 25

Sliding from 2 to 6 makes sense for us given the top few are midfielders and we should be looking at talls. We essentially get who we need and the sweetner. Just how big a sweetener is the question?

 

[Makeshift Park]

 

[Sphynx]

Expect tigers to offer 6 and 14 for 2

Once Rioli and Bolton done

Do we say no unless they make it 6 and 10

Or maybe 6,14 and 23 for 2 and 25

Given what West Coast just got for 3, I think #6 and #14 would be the best we could hope for.

I think we'd bite their hand off for 6 & 10, the only reason I think we could have the leverage for a deal like that is Richmond really wanting FOS & Lalor and Carlton now being in a position to take FOS at #3, as is rumored why they have wanted to move up.

 

[Page8383]

Don’t know if said before:

2 for 6 and 14 from Richmond.

14 and future 1st for Houston.

Only interested if Dan is interested in coming.

I have heard no chatter about this. Total speculation.

Use pick 6 on Armstrong or whatever.

Need to make it a pick outside the top 5 next year to make it a W for us.