List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T20:53:53+1100

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T20:54:03+1100

Karanicolas said:
Next year when we have the ball in D50 and are protecting a lead in the last quarter, whom do want to have the ball exiting D50:

(a) Fisher
(b) McDonald
(c) Daniels

McDonald is done. He's been given his rope.

Fisher will play 70% forward next year.

Themanbun · 2024-10-16T20:54:14+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Save your anxiety until the draft night, and specifically if we don't select Tauru and a KPF, I reckon mate.

Ideally we go with the roos_fanatic08 plan to bring forward the F2 and get a good small forward too.

Anything from next year we trade out will be sold at a decent discount.

trooroo4life · 2024-10-16T20:54:16+1100

The Nostradamus said:
blake drury should be

keep coop over laz and him

To take 3 in the draft and River in the rookie draft, all of Lazz, Cooper and Drury have to drop off the list.

Jindrrk · 2024-10-16T20:54:27+1100

Harvey Manfrenjensenden said:
WELCOME BACK BROTHER

I lurk from time to time

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T20:54:36+1100

Zebrah said:
10 years of 25 and 44. I feel comfortable.

- Mitchell Knevit and Zac Taylor

- Brayden Cook and Beau McCrery

- Jackson Mead and Will Martyn

- James Rowbottom and Justin McInerny

- Noah Balta and High Dixon

- Ben Long and Myles Poholke

- Joshua Dunkley and Blake Hardwick

- Daniel Neilson and Liam Dowson

- Daniel McStay and Aliir Aliir

- Spencer White and Harrison Marsh

Just wait til draft night when one of gerreyn, faull, Whitlock or sims are available at that pick

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T20:55:36+1100

trooroo4life said:
To take 3 in the draft and River in the rookie draft, all of Lazz, Cooper and Drury have to drop off the list.

I wouldn’t take river, reassess next year after he does a year in vfl

I’d keep cooper over him on the rookie list

The other 2 can go

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T20:56:35+1100

Themanbun said:
Anything from next year we trade out will be sold at a decent discount.

Cool it until draft night mate. Trust me.

Ichiro #51 · 2024-10-16T20:57:25+1100

perplexed said:
I was counting the extra spots - hence 44. We started at 46 - 7 delisted - 3 unsigned + 4 traded in = 40

Also, River is definitely worth a rookie spot.

I’m fine with essentially swapping river for cooper as a speculative f/s on the list. He has a standout trait with his running ability.

Themanbun · 2024-10-16T20:57:41+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Cool it until draft night mate. Trust me.

If it's okay with you I shall keep interacting and giving my opinion before draft night. And undoubtedly will have some good interaction with you along the way.

Ball Dont Lie · 2024-10-16T20:58:42+1100

I look forward to when we are 0-12 at the bye and posters blaming Brad and Cam Joyce for the state of the list.

Cyber_punk · 2024-10-16T20:58:56+1100

Regardless of how you feel on losing 25, whats done is done.

We need wins and we need them now. Another 5 years of 3 win seasons and we might not have a club. The joeys in this side need someone to look to set the culture

ChopChopDigDig · 2024-10-16T20:59:04+1100

Ichiro #51 said:
I’m generally pretty critical of a lot of our list management decisions but I’m not unhappy with the CD deal. I like Daniel as a player and a fit because he has a clear strength in a clear area of weakness for us.

I’m not in the least worried that he was in and out of the dogs side this year - Bevo is a genuine nutbar - if anything I can see Daniel being a much better player for us than he ever was at the dogs.

I’m absolutely wrapped to get Parker and fine with Konstanty as a peg at the stumps in a position of need.

100%. Daniel’s didn’t deserve the way he was treated this year, Bevos selection choices were criticised all year and with their list should have been far more successful. North are the winners in this trade IMO.

Firebat · 2024-10-16T20:59:39+1100

Karanicolas said:
Next year when we have the ball in D50 and are protecting a lead in the last quarter, whom do want to have the ball exiting D50:

(a) Fisher
(b) McDonald
(c) Daniels

Daniels

We’re protecting a lead and the ball gets kicked inside 50. Daniel’s man who is 174cm has isolated him and outmarks him easily. Lmac points a bit and chuckles as the goal is kicked

shintemaster · 2024-10-16T20:59:53+1100

THE_GUN said:
Excuse the intrusion

I can understand the melts about not having picks but there are multiple options still available with pick 2

#2 for #6 + #18
on trade #6 to Gws #15 , #16 , #21

North end up with #15 , #16 , #18 , #21

There is no way we will be trading out from 2 to a handful of picks in the late teens IMO.

trooroo4life · 2024-10-16T21:00:04+1100

Gonna sign off on this trade period with this;

Did we overpay on Daniel? Yes. Would I have preferred to take 25 to the draft? Yes.

But at the end of the day I’m sick of turning up and losing every week. Comes in and provides good ball movement from the back half. We move Colby up the ground where he can damage going inside 50 and kick long goals from 50 and be a far more dangerous threat for us.

We get Parker in to provide much needed leadership. I can’t wait to see Wardlaw after working with Parker for a while. He should be great for Sheez too, help mould him into the next skipper.

Konstanty is a free hit. He brings forward pressure which we’ve needed for years. He obviously has a lot of work to do, but he’s going to get an opportunity to show if he’s cut out for the level. Seeing a spot he can fill might spur him on to push harder.

Darling, wasn’t keen but he’s a roo now and just hope it works positively for us.

All in all, forget the price. They are roos, let’s win some f*cking football games. Bring on the draft and then hopefully a happier 2025 season.

DuckYeah · 2024-10-16T21:00:14+1100

Jindrrk said:
Paid overs but got what we want/need. Arguing over some slight semantics. The deals not done people would be a lot more upset and both two clubs know we needed to get it done as we desperately need experienced players and having 3 wanting to come in one year doesnt grow on trees. When I was expecting experience play/s to come in I didn't expect 3 premiership players all at once.

Could have been better traded? Sure. Unhappy, a little...but if makes us a better side in 3 years then it could be a good success.

I think Parker will make our midfield players be much better for it when they come to mature age.

3 premiership players into the list and help the core of players coming through and helping some load off Simpkin and Lmac.

I'd like to see Parker rotate with Simpkin fwd pocket.

When the chips are down and as soon as the oppo mids start getting control in the contest.. in goes parker, squeezes and chokes the contest back to even and allow our younger brigade a chance to not be bullied.

Parker was my preference from round 3.

I was getting tired of watching kicks never hit targets on transition and our team being burned on the turnover. Obviously a poor mans Houston but will definitely improve us.

Darling… nothing to say about this one. Not sure what he brings on game day.

And a small roll of the dice pressure forward? From Drouin? Yep

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-16T21:01:24+1100

Themanbun said:
If it's okay with you I shall keep interacting and giving my opinion before draft night. And undoubtedly will have some good interaction with you along the way.

Of course! Sorry mate. I mean, don't give up hope that we've sacrificed our draft hand just yet.

Psi-Roos · 2024-10-16T21:02:19+1100

I like all the picks.

I was critical of Darling. But hes here now and I like that he really appears to be buying in. And the players are VERY happy we have him.

Split 2, for 6/10 or 11. Get a couple of good kids. Overall fairly good trade period.

I watch a lot of the Dogs as they are my mums team and have always like Daniel. Better player than he's given credit for.

Zondor · 2024-10-16T21:02:52+1100

Ball Dont Lie said:
I look forward to when we are 0-12 at the bye and posters blaming Brad and Cam Joyce for the state of the list.

LOL. But not Rawling. The dude is a freak of a List Manager. :stern look

DesertRoo · 2024-10-16T21:03:40+1100

DuckYeah said:
Its imperative to get the balance right. We are dying for someone who can kick a footy. Tick, we now have one. One where Kerch can push up the ground. Now we have 3 good kicks of the footy from defence to inside 50.

It’ll be such a Clarko thing, to turn CD into an AA half forward, in one offseason, we’re desperate need of that last kick into the forward line and what better to have someone who doesn’t miss targets.

Hotham FC · 2024-10-16T21:04:12+1100

So we get to celebrate two x 300th games, one x 200th game and a debut. Welcome aboard lads!
Fixture lock: Eagles in Rd 2, Swans in Rd 7 & Dogs in Rd 8

justroyal · 2024-10-16T21:04:46+1100

At least we can’t roast Rawlings for this.
If it doesn’t work out, it’s on clarko

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-16T21:04:59+1100

overall i am stoked

we were a future 3rd or at worst future 2nd for daniel instead of pick 25 from it being the perfect trade period, but i will reserve judgement til draft night and beyond

the 3 all aus premiership players will play every game for us next year

konstanty will be in the mix for round 1 and means we don't have to take a small forward at the draft

draft a mid and a KPF

the rooboy · 2024-10-16T21:05:08+1100

Bailey Smith for 17
Caleb Daniel for 25
Something feels off

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