List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 11th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.

Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Filth Wizard]

How funny if our meagre priority pick traded to the Swans in the Stephens trade made it near impossible for the Pies to get Houston.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Luke Parker broke his arm and was suspended for 6 games for a VFL incident. As soon as he could get back he never left the side to a grand final.

Daniel played 16 games for the year, 7 as tactical sub. He finished the season including a final in their best 22.

Parker was playing VFL though when he got suspended.

With his glowing CV, the 31-year-old midfielder was expected to waltz back into Sydney's best 23 once he was fit again following a broken arm suffered in February.
But with the Swans dropping just one game this year and Isaac Heeney and Chad Warner dominating in the midfield, Parker was relegated to four appearances in the VFL.

He was lucky Heeney got suspended to open the door for him again.

 

[JGreezy]

It should be a negative to the Suns if they are trading for an F1 to help a side add Houston because you're devaluing the F1.

 

[archereleven]

I'm not being hysterical. I just don't get the discount part when first access is already a benefit.

The discount will disappear the moment we have a good f/s coming in...

You know it.

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[The Filth Wizard]

Parker was playing VFL though when he got suspended.

He was lucky Heeney got suspended to open the door for him again.

Yep, I said he was in the VFL. They eased him back in after the arm break and then he got suspended. Didn't play VFL again.

I'm responding more to say where the players were in their respective teams at the end of the year, not the start.

 

[DocSholl]

I assume Parker will get done once we know what is happening with our F1, as that impacts our ability to trade other futures

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

brisbane getting the number 1 player in the draft for these late picks is a joke

(Possibly) twice in three years.

 

[Roo202]

KANGAS HIT DANIEL ROADBLOCK​

NORTH Melbourne has held preliminary discussions with the Western Bulldogs around the potential of a Caleb Daniel trade, though the Kangas believe a move for the contracted defender remains unlikely.

Daniel is reluctant to officially request a trade to Arden Street unless a suitable agreement can be reached between the two clubs, but has interest in getting to North Melbourne by Wednesday night's deadline.

However, the Kangaroos have said their initial chats with Bulldogs officials "didn't get far" and reiterated their belief that Daniel – who is contracted through until 2026 – would be retained at the Whitten Oval.

Speaking to AFL.com.au's Gettable on Friday, North Melbourne list manager Brady Rawlings said the Bulldogs hadn't yet given the Kangas an indication of what they would accept for Daniel in a trade.

"Not sure on that one," Rawlings said of a potential Daniel deal.

"We certainly have interest. (But) he's a contracted player and he's contracted for another couple of years.

"I've had a chat with the Dogs and it doesn't seem like they have much appetite at all to trade him out. We'll keep in touch, but at the end of the day he's contracted for two more years and the Dogs want to keep him." – Riley Beveridge

 

[justroyal]

Yep, I said he was in the VFL. They eased him back in after the arm break and then he got suspended. Didn't play VFL again.

I'm responding more to say where the players were in their respective teams at the end of the year, not the start.

It’s what set the tone though and allowed clubs to start asking the questions in the first place and for Caleb’s case, start speculating. For both these players in this case as well.

When players aren’t asking, more often than not, well, at the nmfc, it reads as a place to save your career. This reads more of a Fisher type scenario than a Higgins type.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Yep, I said he was in the VFL. They eased him back in after the arm break and then he got suspended. Didn't play VFL again.

I'm responding more to say where the players were in their respective teams at the end of the year, not the start.

I don't think there was any easing in - he wasn't in their plans except as brilliant depth to have. Even when he came back from the suspension, it was only due to Heeney's suspension and he was selected as sub.
Parker then made himself undroppable with a dominant performance in 1.5 quarters against who else but good old North Melbourne.
I just don't think he's really that different to guys like Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis. He wasn't in the Swans' plans this year until he took his one opportunity with both hands. He clearly is not in their plans for next year either.

 

[hellas_johnny]

Sydney academy players next year? Please tell me that's not talking about McCartney

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Since it wasn't posted.

Good trading by Hawthorn.

 

[The Nostradamus]

that dees deal for pick 13 is the best out of that lot

 

[Samsquanch]

He was out of the team this year and was on the out. This was public knowledge by like round 8?
Same with Parker.
Parker has at least said he wants to go to North.

He is ‘reluctant to officially request a trade, unless a suitable agreement can be made…but has interest on getting to North by Wednesday night’ what the hell is that? Come out and say it. It reads very much like self-preservation even though we all know where he stands

Yep. He can scuttle back to footscray for all I care too.

 

[Zebrah]

The Collingwood offer is terrible.

 

[ferball]

Wish our list management team had the conviction of the hawks guys. Instead of just rolling over and playing nice..

Two years ago it did. Well members of the Hawk team anyway.

 

[Roosurgence]

Dermie the voice of reason on Trading Day.

Telling Sydney just take the Pick 62 and stop haggling over picks for a player who has given you great service.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I don't think there was any easing in - he wasn't in their plans except as brilliant depth to have. Even when he came back from the suspension, it was only due to Heeney's suspension and he was selected as sub.
Parker then made himself undroppable with a dominant performance in 1.5 quarters against who else but good old North Melbourne.
I just don't think he's really that different to guys like Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis. He wasn't in the Swans' plans this year until he took his one opportunity with both hands. He clearly is not in their plans for next year either.

I've got nothing to disagree with you, I appreciate talking with somebody that knows what they are talking about. I agree with the second paragraph. Parker only really got grouped in with the other poster having a swing at Daniel.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Dermie the voice of reason on Trading Day.

Telling Sydney just take the Pick 62 and stop haggling over picks fit a player who has given you great service.

He's right as well. I get the new kid on the block taking a tough stance but club legends are different stories.

 

[Roosurgence]

He's right as well. I get the new kid on the block taking a tough stance but club legends are different stories.

Especially when it’s about extending their career.

This guy potentially is ****ing over a club champion because he’s trying to give the impression he has the biggest dick.

As I said it’s knobhead behaviour.

When one of your club champions come to you and ask for a move to extend a career in its twilight, you do the deal, not play hardball.

 

[big_e]

He is ‘reluctant to officially request a trade, unless a suitable agreement can be made…but has interest on getting to North by Wednesday night’ what the hell is that? Come out and say it. It reads very much like self-preservation even though we all know where he stands

I'm not fussed about Caleb Daniel one way or the other, tbh, but what's the point of "officially" requesting a trade?

If he was against it, there would be no conversation at all, and making something official and public just puts extra pressure on everyone.

If he would prefer to move but is OK with staying and/or doesn't want to burn his bridges at the Dogs, then it makes sense to not make any public statements.

 

[muttley45]

If Sydney has academy prospects next year, shouldn't they be stockpiling multiple late rounder future picks ?

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Shaun higgins?

Pick 33=24?

 

[Lomas]

If Sydney has academy prospects next year, shouldn't they be stockpiling multiple late rounder future picks ?

Probably doesn't apply to northern academies.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

i know - I can't beleive they are using John friggen Noble to try and unlock players like Humphrey.....

What this trade period has shown thus far is the days of the contracted player requesting a move and it just happening are long gone. Obviously Clubs are sick of being pushed around and accepting unders for their stock.

Probably is a logical re-balance.

Thank f*ck. The status quo of contracted players calling the shots had to stop.