List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 16th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3star K 5.8 2star HB 5.4 4star M 2.7 3star T 3.2 5star MG 179.2 3star D 8.1 2star K 4.9 2star HB 3.3 2star M 2.0 2star T 2.6 4star MG 144.9 3star D 9.0 3star K 3.8 2star HB 5.2 4star M 0.8 1star T 3.8 5star MG 160.2 3star , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3star K 6.9 3star HB 5.4 4star M 2.8 3star T 2.9 4star CL 1.4 4star D 12.7 3star K 9.2 4star HB 3.5 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.8 4star D 9.2 3star K 4.6 2star HB 4.6 4star M 2.0 3star T 2.6 4star CL 0.0 1star , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

Ethan Phillips also delisted

 

[King Hansen]

Cully culled.

 

[King Hansen]

Pick 29 from 2022, which is what our pick 25 will be after the bids, got delisted today from WC.

 

[DuckYeah]

Thats a fairly brutal delisting.. must have lost his leap or something after his knee, poor campaigner

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

Thats a fairly brutal delisting.. must have lost his leap or something after his knee, poor campaigner

Yeah especially for those bigger mids a hit to the athleticism can render them almost useless unfortunately

 

[Samsquanch]

Fun fact, they a called ‘nibble pies’ in Warrnambool.

Alright.

I'm not saying I'm wrong. I never actually denied the "nibble pies" thing. I am certain that my position is that the term was never used to the east of Alansford and it was purely a Warrnambool thing.

I have just been informed by my cousin who grew up in Alansford and later, in Warrnambool until she moved to Perth in 1984 that "nibbles" or "nibble pies" is real.

Apparently.

 

[ferball]

Tell me again, which draft class was he a part of? *








* (rhetorical question)

Rhetorical Aye???


2020!!!

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I’d get Culley & Grainger-Barass down to the club for pre season with eyes on George’s list spot as an LTI.

 

[Marstermind]

Tell me again, which draft class was he a part of? *








* (rhetorical question)

 

[chickenonachain]

I’d get Culley & Grainger-Barass down to the club for pre season with eyes on George’s list spot as an LTI.

I’d rather one or two of those Werribee boys I reckon they would have a good crack at it

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I’d rather one or two of those Werribee boys I reckon they would have a good crack at it

Tend to agree, at least from a needs pov.

 

[bengrina]

If we are unable to get value by splitting pick 2 what do you think we could get by trading our future first? Would it be possible to get 1 of saints 7 or 8 or demons 9? I understand we tried getting suns 13 with our future first so imagine we had enquired with saints and demons and told no?

 

[Makeshift Park]

I’d rather one or two of those Werribee boys I reckon they would have a good crack at it

Genuine question as a VFL numpty who only watches North games:
Where would we play Brew?
We've got Phillips as our first preference as tagger.
Wardlaw tackles all day long
Parker for leadership and accountability
Maybe as a defensive forward?

 

[Themanbun]

If we are unable to get value by splitting pick 2 what do you think we could get by trading our future first? Would it be possible to get 1 of saints 7 or 8 or demons 9? I understand we tried getting suns 13 with our future first so imagine we had enquired with saints and demons and told no?

Not sure. Clubs will likely value it around pick 4-5. But then in the 2024 draft you could get the 4th on your board at pick 10 or so, so it really depends on who their targets are.

 

[Themanbun]

Genuine question as a VFL numpty who only watches North games:
Where would we play Brew?
We've got Phillips as our first preference as tagger.
Wardlaw tackles all day long
Parker for leadership and accountability
Maybe as a defensive forward?

Ship has sailed on Brew for us. Personally would have traded out some of our young midfield capital a few years ago and got him in but that time has passed too.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Ship has sailed on Brew for us. Personally would have traded out some of our young midfield capital a few years ago and got him in but that time has passed too.

Alright, so say you're Rawlings, who would you recruit from Werribee?

 

[Themanbun]

Alright, so say you're Rawlings, who would you recruit from Werribee?

Garoni first then Bice. The latter is the better prospect but with Daniel coming in, Hardeman, Goater, etc. he's less of a need.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Garoni first then Bice. The latter is the better prospect but with Daniel coming in, Hardeman, Goater, etc. he's less of a need.

Even if Garoni was stuck behind Darling, Teakle, Maley and a 2024 draftee?

Or only if we went for a midfielder or Tauru at 2?

 

[Themanbun]

Even if Garoni was stuck behind Darling, Teakle, Maley and a 2024 draftee?

Or only if we went for a midfielder or Tauru at 2?

Yep. 1-2 of those will be playing AFL. Maley has been thrown around in the ruck and is still a speculative prospect as much as I rate him.

Garoni would step in and be our best VFL forward by a long way and I think would work well with Finbar.

 

[chickenonachain]

Genuine question as a VFL numpty who only watches North games:
Where would we play Brew?
We've got Phillips as our first preference as tagger.
Wardlaw tackles all day long
Parker for leadership and accountability
Maybe as a defensive forward?

To be honest I don’t know I would just rather get someone who’s going to bust his gut at training to try and get a game than someone who’s been delisted who more than likely is finished. Give someone a chance you never know what we may get

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Late thoughts on trade period.

Not my concept but - it's very unlikely Brady is operating in a vacuum. He's probably coordinating the feeler contacts with agents but would bet he's largely being dictated requirements by Clarkson then tasked with making them happen.

I doubt Thursfield was thrilled to lose #25 and it was an overpay. But I'm inclined to clear Brady on this one. It smacks of a captain's call, the whole "Daniel wants to play for Alastair Clarkson". I suspect Brady was given the names Parker and Daniel and asked to secure them, with no option of retreat.

Overall, this trade period was the strongest indicator that they've now looked at everyone 27+ on the list, grabbed the bucket, then moved swiftly to rebalance that lack of senior poise and presence.

So mission accomplished in terms of slightly fixing list structure.

I suspect this view is 100% accurate.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

Has to be one of the quickest pathways out of the system I've seen for a top 5 pick.

Fischer McAsey was also pick #6 just one draft class prior. I think he was delisted by the Crows after only 2 or 3 years.

 

[Themanbun]

Fischer McAsey was also pick #6 just one draft class prior. I think he was delisted by the Crows after only 2 or 3 years.

I think he quit though for personal reasons.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I’d rather one or two of those Werribee boys I reckon they would have a good crack at it

I think they both have to be drafted. Culley and DGB could train on with us and join as a DFA. At least with these two you can go into preseason training to gauge it.

 

[chickenonachain]

I think they both have to be drafted. Culley and DGB could train on with us and join as a DFA. At least with these two you can go into preseason training to gauge it.

Are they not able to train with us with view for a rookie spot?