List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

LB2Snake · 2024-10-22T15:24:24+1100

sregit said:
Only sensible trade scenario I’ve seen on either Richmond or North boards. Both sides desperately trying to win here. Personally I’m hoping nothing gets done.

I think that trade everybody walks away comfortable and achieving what they want, or are at least set up to get what they want.
I don't think winning is paramount, not getting shafted is important though.

Chip Scab1 · 2024-10-22T15:28:30+1100

Colby Cheer Squad said:
I would reluctantly accept this offer of 6 and 10 for 2 along the hand that I bit off when the offer was made.

Maybe. But i'd counter offer (at least ask the question) with 6,11,24 for 2 & 2025 R3! We shouldn't just take the offer they are happy with, even if we think it's a good one - make them squirm a touch!

LB2Snake · 2024-10-22T15:28:36+1100

King Corey said:
That's potentially trading 1+2 for 6, 10, 18.

Return doesn't match the risk.

Both teams would be better off abstaining. Fwiw I'd want 6, 10, 11, 23 minimum and they'd say no.

Yeah I don't agree. I think we will be trying to trade our F1 for a top 10 pick, but can't see who would really do it, maybe Melbourne and Saints, but they need players this year. I think it's a reasonable deal with a little bit of risk on both sides, but it's pretty minimal to get what you want.

King Corey · 2024-10-22T15:50:29+1100

LB2Snake said:
Yeah I don't agree. I think we will be trying to trade our F1 for a top 10 pick, but can't see who would really do it, maybe Melbourne and Saints, but they need players this year. I think it's a reasonable deal with a little bit of risk on both sides, but it's pretty minimal to get what you want.

If we were hellbent on trading out the F1 it would be better doing it in a separate transaction to #2 imo. Stops it's value being diluted.

I don't want to offload it but in this event would offer it straight up for a top 8 pick and whoever bids highest (lowest) gets it.

Better Loosen Up · 2024-10-22T15:51:56+1100

sregit said:
Only sensible trade scenario I’ve seen on either Richmond or North boards. Both sides desperately trying to win here. Personally I’m hoping nothing gets done.

You would think that of course. But you see, our F1 is more than likely between 1 and 4 even if we double our wins next year so you can p1ss right off with that so called "sensible" scenario.

Better Loosen Up · 2024-10-22T15:54:14+1100

LB2Snake said:
I think that trade everybody walks away comfortable and achieving what they want, or are at least set up to get what they want.
I don't think winning is paramount, not getting shafted is important though.

But we are getting shafted. Massively so!

You're giving up pick 2 and pick 1 - 4 next year for 6, 10 and 18! That is ridiculous.

Better Loosen Up · 2024-10-22T15:56:21+1100

The least I would accept for our F1 would be GWS pick 15 and 16 this year.

Chip Scab1 · 2024-10-22T16:06:36+1100

Better Loosen Up said:
The least I would accept for our F1 would be GWS pick 15 and 16 this year.

A man who understands value. Incredible that so many do not, nor can see the future of us being twice as good next year and still finishing bottom 4.

kool kangas · 2024-10-22T16:12:51+1100

Better Loosen Up said:
The least I would accept for our F1 would be GWS pick 15 and 16 this year.

l would take #15 and #16 for our F1st and then Give the Tiggers Pick #2 for #6 and #10/#11 so we end up with either

#6, #10, #15 and #16
or
#6, #11, #15 and #16

LB2Snake · 2024-10-22T16:20:28+1100

Better Loosen Up said:
But we are getting shafted. Massively so!

You're giving up pick 2 and pick 1 - 4 next year for 6, 10 and 18! That is ridiculous.

Yeah I get that, but we want to move the needle now I reckon......we won't be getting offers under pick 4, or even pick 8-10, for our F1 on it's own, I don't think. I think it values our F1 around the 10 mark, and there has to be a certain amount of risk applied to both sides.

LB2Snake · 2024-10-22T16:26:43+1100

kool kangas said:
l would take #15 and #16 for our F1st and then Give the Tiggers Pick #2 for #6 and #10/#11 so we end up with either

#6, #10, #15 and #16
or
#6, #11, #15 and #16

Don't mind this KK, particularly if we already had 15 and 16 before dealing with anybody for 2....as in "We already have 15 and 16, why the hell would we want 6 and 18!" sorta vibes

the big lebowski · 2024-10-22T16:32:02+1100

King Corey said:
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Fun fact: Adrian Dodoro was paid exclusively in Dutch Tulips for 20 years

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BlueandWhiteinmyBlood · 2024-10-22T16:32:50+1100

kool kangas said:
l would take #15 and #16 for our F1st and then Give the Tiggers Pick #2 for #6 and #10/#11 so we end up with either

#6, #10, #15 and #16
or
#6, #11, #15 and #16

That would be so good, get 4 quality youngsters in one more time by bringing next years draft into this one essentially. The youngsters start day 1 under Parker, Darling and Daniel on track. My favourite part of this is the media will then complain we have 4 first rounders after pulling Richmond off for the last month regarding their 15 first round picks.

ferball · 2024-10-22T16:34:52+1100

roos 10 said:
I think it will be 2 for 6/11

I'd still do that. One of Taura/Armstrong, maybe both and if not someone else worthwhile.

ferball · 2024-10-22T16:37:31+1100

Pravda Roo said:
Yeah our first pick rounder could be 12 or 14 so let's hope Richmond takes our call or mms

I think the term you are looking for is "fax".

ferball · 2024-10-22T16:39:50+1100

perplexed said:
The problem with that is neither CJ or Teakle can ruck. We would be better off ditching both and getting a proper ruck, like Crossley, as a back-up.

Do we need a fat coke dealer at the club?

shinboner magic · 2024-10-22T16:42:49+1100

Shinboner roo said:
Picks 6+10 in this draft for pick 2, couldn't say yes fast enough

Brady when this deal is offered

Better Loosen Up · 2024-10-22T16:46:20+1100

LB2Snake said:
Yeah I get that, but we want to move the needle now I reckon......we won't be getting offers under pick 4, or even pick 8-10, for our F1 on it's own, I don't think. I think it values our F1 around the 10 mark, and there has to be a certain amount of risk applied to both sides.

No need to throw the kitchen sink out.

Like I've already mentioned, something like 15 and 16 is far better from GWS.

Then turn 2 into 6 and 11

Then we have 4 picks. 6, 11, 15, 16. That allows us to cover all of our needs in this draft. 2 x Key Forwards, 1 x Small Forward and a midfielder or defender.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-22T16:48:30+1100

Jack Carroll surprisingly delisted

And our boy Sam durdin

the big lebowski · 2024-10-22T16:49:26+1100

The Nostradamus said:
Jack Carroll surprisingly delisted

And our boy Sam durdin

I’m surprised

I thought Durdin was undelistable

year of the roo · 2024-10-22T16:49:49+1100

Better Loosen Up said:
The least I would accept for our F1 would be GWS pick 15 and 16 this year.

I'm amazed how many on here would do this. Were they not alive during the Scott years? Not having premium draft picks and instead settling for picks in the teens is what got us into this mess in the beginning.

ohmygewd · 2024-10-22T16:53:23+1100

LoL...went OS for a week an this thread was on page 101...come back and its 359 - don't think l could read 250 pages!!

But l am coming around to the mystery of Brady's list management..Parker and Konstanty for #44..Bravo!! But 25 for Daniel..com'on man WTF is that, not even a future 3rd in return!!

I only hope they can split #2 because ONE PICK in this draft

Better Loosen Up · 2024-10-22T16:53:33+1100

year of the roo said:
I'm amazed how many on here would do this. Were they not alive during the Scott years? Not having premium draft picks and instead settling for picks in the teens is what got us into this mess in the beginning.

We also weren't diabolically sh1t during the Scott years either over a 5 year period.

This draft has the assets we need for our list build and picks needed to get them are attainable. Make it happen!

We need to get out of this mess as soon as possible! Enough is enough!

LB2Snake · 2024-10-22T16:59:07+1100

Better Loosen Up said:
No need to throw the kitchen sink out.

Like I've already mentioned, something like 15 and 16 is far better from GWS.

Then turn 2 into 6 and 11

Then we have 4 picks. 6, 11, 15, 16. That allows us to cover all of our needs in this draft. 2 x Key Forwards, 1 x Small Forward and a midfielder or defender.

Yeah I'm onboard....let's see if we can make it happen. I think it's gunna be tricky, but if we had the 15 and 16 it makes keeping 2 a lot more possible as well, which I don't mind either. I'd take FOS if Lalor gone myself

perplexed · 2024-10-22T17:00:59+1100

ferball said:
Do we need a fat coke dealer at the club?

I'd forgotten about that. The coke bit that is, I knew he was fat. But he had a great year in VFL with the new ruck rules.

If X goes down we don't have anyone who can ruck, our best option could be Maley - which is pretty dire.

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