List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

New_Roo · 2024-10-22T20:48:22+1100

Twangler said:
It would be an almighty coup if we pulled off 15 and 16 for F1. But for 13 alone we were looking to trade f1 (plus extras) to GC so I’d be astonished if GWS agreed to this when there is negligible difference between 13 and 15 in this draft.

I'm confused as to why gws would want to be out of this draft? They have just lost what 4 players? Perry cumming peat and Haynes? Granted Haynes wasn't playing much but other 3 were

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New_Roo · 2024-10-22T20:52:01+1100

chubbspeterson said:
I would generally agree because its a top 5 pick next year even with 6-8 wins.
But we should be open to anything if it gets us the players we want. Teams trading F1's will become frequent to get kids in the teens as these academy and F/S bids are going to push 2nd rounders back into mid/late 20's by the looks of it.
Two years of trading futures opens up lots of possibilities as well. Freo's 14 and F1 is another option vs GWS 15/16.

Freo aren't going to give up their F1 either surely... they would be happy taking ours but would still need their own for the Warner play

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The Nostradamus · 2024-10-22T20:52:51+1100

koshari said:
Port Adelaide delisted contracted clurey.

Thanks Sandra

New_Roo · 2024-10-22T20:53:12+1100

chubbspeterson said:
I think they said they're open to moving one of 15/16/21 providing "they get the players they want" in the draft.

Aren't we wanting both though, not one?

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chubbspeterson · 2024-10-22T21:01:22+1100

New_Roo said:
Freo aren't going to give up their F1 either surely... they would be happy taking ours but would still need their own for the Warner play

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Our top 5 F1 from us next year plus their own 2026 F1 & 2027 F1 could all be packaged up for Warner next year.
Two years of futures can be traded next year. I doubt we'd take 14 (will move back further with bids) and a F2 for our F1.

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-22T21:06:05+1100

New_Roo said:
Aren't we wanting both though, not one?

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We haven't been linked to their picks at all, it's more a hypothetical of what we'd trade the F1 for.
It sounds like GWS don't want to trade out but would be open to bundling them to move up the order.
I think I mixed up the comments with the Freo list manager.

New_Roo · 2024-10-22T21:06:07+1100

chubbspeterson said:
Our top 5 F1 from us next year plus their own 2026 F1 & 2027 F1 could all be packaged up for Warner next year.
Two years of futures can be traded next year. I doubt we'd take 14 (will move back further with bids) and a F2 for our F1.

Is 2027 F1 worth anything? When does Tassie Tax start?

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My Left Foote · 2024-10-22T21:07:44+1100

New_Roo said:
I'm confused as to why gws would want to be out of this draft? They have just lost what 4 players? Perry cumming peat and Haynes? Granted Haynes wasn't playing much but other 3 were

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Completely agree with this. I’ve seen the GWS trade mentioned numerous times, I know all our proposed trades favour North, it makes no sense to me from a GWS perspective at all.

perplexed · 2024-10-22T21:15:33+1100

New_Roo said:
I'm confused as to why gws would want to be out of this draft? They have just lost what 4 players? Perry cumming peat and Haynes? Granted Haynes wasn't playing much but other 3 were

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GWS have 5 free list spots with potentially more delistings to come. There's no reason for them to trade good picks out.

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-22T21:19:06+1100

New_Roo said:
Is 2027 F1 worth anything? When does Tassie Tax start?

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End of 2027 I think. Might not be worth much but we don't know the concessions for Tassie yet.
Also, not sure if they can bring the 2027 forward into 2026 next year and trade 2025 1st and two 2026 1st rounders.
I'm sure the AFL would tick off anything if Freo get Warner and Swans get well compensated. We'll see what happens.
We might not end up trading our F1 at all unless it's Tigers involved.

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-22T21:28:22+1100

perplexed said:
GWS have 5 free list spots with potentially more delistings to come. There's no reason for them to trade good picks out.

Caruso only mentioned they might move up the order but don't want to miss getting their guys.

Luke72 · 2024-10-22T21:29:39+1100

If, God forbid, we finish bottom 3 again next year surely we’d be in line for some more compensation picks. Total BS that there was nothing this year really. I wonder whether that’s influenced the decision to try and trade out of next year’s draft.

Horace · 2024-10-22T21:35:56+1100

tiger_tough said:
Of course we'll win a game. How many times has that been suggested recently? and how many times has it actually occurred? The answer is 0. Last time was 1964.

Bit strange to have an opinion on how many games we'll win on one hand, then admit to not knowing the list on the other

The key to the Tigers winning games next year, is that there remains some very good premiership players on the list. Vlaustin, Prestia, Short, Broad, Lynch, Balta, Nankervis and McIntosh if he is not delisted. Add to that Taranto and Hopper, who are good footballers, but need to do more, plus some of the recent draftees and some very good kids who are about to be drafted this year, their list will never be as depleted as ours was after the "great" Kangaroo Cull post season 2020.

They won't win a lot of games but they will definitely win some and for tiger fans, being able to reflect on 3 very recent flags, while some of these new kids start to show their exciting talent, the ride might be quite a reasonable one.

Its been spoken about a bit, being to trade for a future pick or two next year, if it can be achieved without giving up too many/any of the really good picks this year, should spread the talent influx over two rather than just one draft.

By the way, I barracked for that team in 1964 and I would take Richmond's list in 2025 in a heartbeat over the poor old Royboys of that year.

perplexed · 2024-10-22T21:37:13+1100

chubbspeterson said:
Caruso only mentioned they might move up the order but don't want to miss getting their guys.

They normally prefer Vic Country kids, any thoughts?

FOS, Lindsay, Lalor, Tauru, Langford, Berry, Travaglia, Whitlocks

year of the roo · 2024-10-22T21:38:45+1100

The Nostradamus said:
Thanks Sandra

Stick to what you're good at. It isn't comedy. It's writing off 17 year olds without having ever watched a minute of them play.

Horace · 2024-10-22T21:52:09+1100

Horace said:
The key to the Tigers winning games next year, is that there remains some very good premiership players on the list. Vlaustin, Prestia, Short, Broad, Lynch, Balta, Nankervis and McIntosh if he is not delisted. Add to that Taranto and Hopper, who are good footballers, but need to do more, plus some of the recent draftees and some very good kids who are about to be drafted this year, their list will never be as depleted as ours was after the "great" Kangaroo Cull post season 2020.

They won't win a lot of games but they will definitely win some and for tiger fans, being able to reflect on 3 very recent flags, while some of these new kids start to show their exciting talent, the ride might be quite a reasonable one.

Its been spoken about a bit, being to trade for a future pick or two next year, if it can be achieved without giving up too many/any of the really good picks this year, should spread the talent influx over two rather than just one draft.

By the way, I barracked for that team in 1964 and I would take Richmond's list in 2025 in a heartbeat over the poor old Royboys of that year.

Just added Broad, who I missed. Four of those, being Vlaustin, Broad, Short and Balta, make the nucleus of a very good defence. Throw in Miller who is a handy type and it doesn't look too bad.

The Nostradamus · 2024-10-22T22:00:38+1100

year of the roo said:
Stick to what you're good at. It isn't comedy. It's writing off 17 year olds without having ever watched a minute of them play.

Thanks karen

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-22T22:01:13+1100

perplexed said:
They normally prefer Vic Country kids, any thoughts?

FOS, Lindsay, Lalor, Tauru, Langford, Berry, Travaglia, Whitlocks

Yep usually country kids. Not sure they need Berry with Thomas, Jones, McMullen and Gothard on their list.
I think FOS, Tauru, Langford and Travaglia are off the board by 15/16. I'd guess with 15/16/21 range that they'd be more looking at Lindsay (Josh Kelly replacement?) or the Whitlock twins perhaps.
But we'll get a better idea closer to the draft. Twomey linked them to Leake (TAS) and Gothard (NSW) last year.

DarkPhoenix · 2024-10-22T22:16:58+1100

I know next years draft isn't supposed to be as good as other recent drafts.

But **** me, some people in here seem desperate to trade out our F1 for absolutely nothing

FlyHigh18 · 2024-10-22T22:18:16+1100

I’m confident our future first will end up being around pick number 7.

Realistically anywhere between 4-10.

Nutjob · 2024-10-22T22:33:14+1100

DarkPhoenix said:
I know next years draft isn't supposed to be as good as other recent drafts.

But **** me, some people in here seem desperate to trade out our F1 for absolutely nothing

It’s bewildering.

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krakouers · 2024-10-22T22:39:09+1100

DarkPhoenix said:
I know next years draft isn't supposed to be as good as other recent drafts.

But **** me, some people in here seem desperate to trade out our F1 for absolutely nothing

There’s also the ability to trade what, 2 years in advance next year?
Maybe there will be someone we will want to target then

Luke72 · 2024-10-23T00:04:36+1100

krakouers said:
There’s also the ability to trade what, 2 years in advance next year?
Maybe there will be someone we will want to target then

Yeah we should be doing our best to get Harris and Mcartney to choose FS and then trade out of that draft. Although the coming rule changes are bound to get us

Blightys Barrel · 2024-10-23T00:21:20+1100

LB2Snake said:
Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

Like little Johnny Howard telling Costello he was taking over from him after 2 elections

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